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#1 Edited by YoungGunna (2439 posts) - - Show Bio

- Random Encounter on an abandoned planet
-Current Versions  
-Wonder Woman only has her bracelets 
-Both in character
-Start 100 meters away 

 VS
WHO WINS
#2 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio

How did no one comment on this? Well considering her bracelets generate zeus's lighning bolts i think she has more than BM can offer but strength wise theyre the same she's a better fighter ofcourse so ill give it to WW

#3 Posted by jojjimbo (2472 posts) - - Show Bio

WW.

#4 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio
@IZZR said:
How did no one comment on this? Well considering her bracelets generate zeus's lighning bolts i think she has more than BM can offer but strength wise theyre the same she's a better fighter ofcourse so ill give it to WW
#5 Posted by Owie (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue Marvel can also shoot energy beams and omnidirectional energy blasts, which should counter the bracelets' lightning bolts.  He can also make energy shields that stand up to King Hyperion, according to his entry.  Combining his omnidirectional blast and his fields together would allow him to hit her and avoid being hit himself, if he can toggle the two effects on and off quickly.
 
WW is a more skilled and trained fighter, and I would guess she's faster, however.  I think it's close to a draw.  Perhaps WW 6/10.

#6 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm close i'll give it to Diana because of her skill she'll be in for one hell of a fight thought.
#7 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

BM.
#8 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.

#9 Posted by jayskee (1908 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:


                    BM.

                   

               
#10 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.

#11 Posted by Baltoro (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman has beaten tougher in her comics, giving her the benefit of the doubt here.

#12 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

Princess

#13 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman

#14 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman. Stronger, faster (reaction speed) and a better fighter.

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

BM.

Why?

#16 Posted by Kinasin_ (1220 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue Marvel goes toe to toe with The Sentry and he thumped King Hyperion. BM IMO.

#17 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

BM.

Why?

In retrospect, maybe BM was a bad choice.

#18 Posted by Evil Incarnate (4114 posts) - - Show Bio

BM = bowel movement...

#19 Posted by RyuHayabusa (2019 posts) - - Show Bio

Wondy

#20 Posted by Deranged Midget (17822 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman. Arguably stronger, faster, much more skilled.

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#21 Posted by Billy Batson (58254 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.
BB

#22 Posted by termiteone4ever (7860 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder woman with a smiling face

#23 Posted by ThatThorFan (951 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#24 Posted by _slim_ (13555 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't see why you bumped this but oh well.

WW wins.

#25 Posted by YoungJustice (6887 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue Marvel. His durability would stop Diana from doing any significant damage. He is stronger and arguably faster than Diana. His blasts would be enough to eventually defeat her. I'm assuming that this is New 52 WW also.

#26 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue Marvel would win.

#27 Posted by cortadew (369 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder woman but not easy

#28 Posted by momo111191 (248 posts) - - Show Bio

ww

#29 Posted by XiiX (9068 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.

#30 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Out of character - Wonder Woman (speed and eq)

In character - Blue Marvel (too strong)

#31 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8684 posts) - - Show Bio

long fight but wonderwoman can win this but i will say wonderwoman wins 6/10

#32 Edited by 18hunt (2948 posts) - - Show Bio

BM

#33 Posted by cortadew (369 posts) - - Show Bio

Out of character - Wonder Woman (speed and eq)

In character - Blue Marvel (too strong)

why do you think blue marvel wins in character?

#34 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5601 posts) - - Show Bio

#5 Posted by Owie (2555 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Blue Marvel can also shoot energy beams and omnidirectional energy blasts, which should counter the bracelets' lightning bolts. He can also make energy shields that stand up to King Hyperion, according to his entry. Combining his omnidirectional blast and his fields together would allow him to hit her and avoid being hit himself, if he can toggle the two effects on and off quickly.

WW is a more skilled and trained fighter, and I would guess she's faster, however. I think it's close to a draw. Perhaps WW 6/10.

This except ill flip it to Blue Marvel 6/10.

#35 Posted by 18hunt (2948 posts) - - Show Bio

So blue marvel can use super explosive wave?

#36 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@cortadew said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Out of character - Wonder Woman (speed and eq)

In character - Blue Marvel (too strong)

why do you think blue marvel wins in character?

Because according to Watcher, he can break Moon in two punches. Watcher is one of trustworthy characters (who if not he?), so I belive to him. Wonder Woman isn't that strong.

#37 Posted by Saren (26007 posts) - - Show Bio
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#38 Posted by dondave (38774 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman

#39 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

Because according to Watcher, he can break Moon in two punches. Watcher is one of trustworthy characters (who if not he?), so I belive to him. Wonder Woman isn't that strong.

Ok.....even if he could, he's not much faster in combat than Wonder Woman and is much less skilled, Wonder Woman can block his "moon busting punches" and beat him down.

#40 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Because according to Watcher, he can break Moon in two punches. Watcher is one of trustworthy characters (who if not he?), so I belive to him. Wonder Woman isn't that strong.

Ok.....even if he could, he's not much faster in combat than Wonder Woman and is much less skilled, Wonder Woman can block his "moon busting punches" and beat him down.

I don't see how she can hold his punches.

Besides, You seem to forgot that BM is skilled soldier. I would rather give her advantage in reflex speed, but she would need to take few shots from him and I don't see her doing it.

Wonder Man and Iron Man couldn't even hold him in place. Thanks to AM-blasts he beat King Hyperion and Anti-Man (who couldn't be stopped by Sentry, Wodner Man and other Avengers).

There is also a one-panel fight with Pagan who defeated Thor in Avengers v3.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't her best (solo) feat lifting a SF's bridge?

#41 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how she can hold his punches.

Besides, You seem to forgot that BM is skilled soldier. I would rather give her advantage in reflex speed, but she would need to take few shots from him and I don't see her doing it.

Wonder Man and Iron Man couldn't even hold him in place. Thanks to AM-blasts he beat King Hyperion and Anti-Man (who couldn't be stopped by Sentry, Wodner Man and other Avengers).

There is also a one-panel fight with Pagan who defeated Thor in Avengers v3.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't her best (solo) feat lifting a SF's bridge?

She can't hold his punches? She held back a god blast from a collective of a dozen Greek gods, sent it flying at Olympus which was obliterated in the process. She can block Blue Marvel, or even dodge him at least if you refuse to accept it.

Skilled soldier vs warrior born Amazon princess .... I'll leave that up to you. She wouldn't have to take any shots from him really, considering the fact that he's not as fast or skilled as her and she has unbreakable bracers that she can block him with, and she can take his shots, especially after having taken a shot from Superman that sent her from the sun to earth in 2 panels and she got right back up from that.

Maybe cus Wonder Man and Iron Man aren't nearly as strong as Wonder Woman....

Ok

No...

#42 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

If the fight still means Pre Flashpoint Wonder Woman, she can take this handily. Any statement, even one from the Watcher like that is hard to substantiate when nothing backs this up. Besides, Wonder Woman has much better reaction and combat speed in addition to skill and bracelets with forcefields. And her strength and durability are nothing to be taken lightly. She can win.

#43 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

She can't hold his punches? She held back a god blast from a collective of a dozen Greek gods, sent it flying at Olympus which was obliterated in the process. She can block Blue Marvel, or even dodge him at least if you refuse to accept it.

Skilled soldier vs warrior born Amazon princess .... I'll leave that up to you. She wouldn't have to take any shots from him really, considering the fact that he's not as fast or skilled

She is not doing constantly to all her enemies. People like Despero, Superman and Power Girl (from the top of my mind, I can look for others) were easily able to punch her in the face. So her skill and reflex is used when she is in deep trouble or when she want to prove something. Not from the start of the battle with unknown enemy.

Destroying a mountain =/= destroying a moon.

as her and she has unbreakable bracers that she can block him with

She is using it to block energy projection, barely swords or other melee weapons, not punches.

In the same way I can say that Thor can block enemies punches with Mjolnir or that Surfer can do it with his surfboard.

and she can take his shots, especially after having taken a shot from Superman that sent her from the sun to earth in 2 panels and she got right back up from that.

IIRC, she lost that battle in the end.

Maybe cus Wonder Man and Iron Man aren't nearly as strong as Wonder Woman....

Wonder Man was able to hold dozens of thousands of tons, Iron Man's best feats are below that, but he isn't just 100 tonner either. And they failed, King Hyperion's strikes were blocked with his AM shields, Sentry had to push himself to his limits to put BM down and he was actually KOd by BM in first place.

Not too mention, that we can hardly judge how much weight this space ship had, but I give You that I also belive that it was more heavy than a bridge. Yet, BM lifted asteroid as big as Arkansas.

@lvenger said:

If the fight still means Pre Flashpoint Wonder Woman, she can take this handily. Any statement, even one from the Watcher like that is hard to substantiate when nothing backs this up. Besides, Wonder Woman has much better reaction and combat speed in addition to skill and bracelets with forcefields. And her strength and durability are nothing to be taken lightly. She can win.

1.Watcher's word is fact and statements are as much important as any feats, if they are claimed by narrator or people who can be trust, like Watcher, Batman or Mr. Fantastic. I remind You, that WW was said to be faster by Batman and we belive that.

2.BM also has force fields and better energy projection.

3.In right circumctances she has a chance. For example out of chatacter or bloodlusted with her all eq. But not in character agaisnt someone who isn't known for her. It is not like I would belive that he would strat a battle with planet level energy projection or moon level punches either.

#44 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Watcher's word is fact and statements are as much important as any feats, if they are claimed by narrator or people who can be trust, like Watcher, Batman or Mr. Fantastic. I remind You, that WW was said to be faster by Batman and we belive that.

2.BM also has force fields and better energy projection.

3.In right circumctances she has a chance. For example out of chatacter or bloodlusted with her all eq. But not in character agaisnt someone who isn't known for her. It is not like I would belive that he would strat a battle with planet level energy projection or moon level punches either.

  1. I don't hold Batman's statement to be true nor do I the one where he says Superman can travel at 17 billion mph. They're still theories, not substantiated on panel.
  2. Oh it's a shame WW hasn't tanked anything massive in the way of energy projection except for a massive blast from every Greek God that shattered Olympus with ease. Please give it a rest the energy projection is easily countered.
  3. You do realise that in an out of character fight, WW speedblitzes and holds nothing back? She's even willing to kill in character. Out of character there's no limit on her bloodshed. Marvel is way out of his league in and out of character. He only has a few feats to go on anyway. WW has 25 years worth of feats to counter Marvel's year and a bit. I doubt you can support your case for long.
#45 Edited by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio
#46 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio
#47 Edited by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@ancient_0f_days: Fancy tag teaming czarny? :P

:-P I'm here only for maybe an hour and I will comeback tommorow or in sunday...

@lvenger:

I don't hold Batman's statement to be true nor do I the one where he says Superman can travel at 17 billion mph. They're still theories, not substantiated on panel.

In this way, most feats would go down. I can't say that I will ever follow this logic, since it is only way to really show reflex speed. How would we know that some people used nanosecond reaction speed if not narrator's statements?

Oh it's a shame WW hasn't tanked anything massive in the way of energy projection except for a massive blast from every Greek God that shattered Olympus with ease. Please give it a rest the energy projection is easily countered.

Destroying Olympus =/= destroying Earth/stopping such a power. Anti-Man was going to destroy whole humanity, but BM's control over anti-matter was higher. It is much above destroying Olympus. Besides point was that he also can create force fields, so this is not an advantage for her.

You do realise that in an out of character fight, WW speedblitzes and holds nothing back? She's even willing to kill in character. Out of character there's no limit on her bloodshed. Marvel is way out of his league in and out of character. He only has a few feats to go on anyway. WW has 25 years worth of feats to counter Marvel's year and a bit. I doubt you can support your case for long.

Out of character - WW wins without a doubt. Depends on her eq, even in more than one way.

In character - it depends on background. She isn't doing it to person with unknown abilities. Much like Thor, who isn't starting his battles with Mjolnir flying on his enemy 3 times FTL or with lightning that can put down Hulk and Surfer.

It doesn't matter how many feat he has. Insane Gennis-Vell also has only few feats, but he is above Odin, Thanos, Darkseid, WW, Blue Marvel and army of other characters form similar level.

#49 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

She is not doing constantly to all her enemies. People like Despero, Superman and Power Girl (from the top of my mind, I can look for others) were easily able to punch her in the face. So her skill and reflex is used when she is in deep trouble or when she want to prove something. Not from the start of the battle with unknown enemy.

Destroying a mountain =/= destroying a moon.

That's usually cus those people can keep up with her combat speed, Superman and Powergirl are easily faster than Blue Marvel, Despero was soloing the JLA so you already know. Her skill and reflex is used in most of her battles, it doesn't matter if the enemy is new or not, she skillfully put Powergirl in an arm lock, skillfully subdued a bloodlusted Superman, and even took down bloodlusted Starro Flash...

IIRC, she lost that battle in the end.

Nope, after he snapped her wrist she downed him with a strong kick which bought her time to get to max lord, then when he showed up she caught him with the tiara. That kind of is a win.

Wonder Man was able to hold dozens of thousands of tons, Iron Man's best feats are below that, but he isn't just 100 tonner either. And they failed, King Hyperion's strikes were blocked with his AM shields, Sentry had to push himself to his limits to put BM down and he was actually KOd by BM in first place.

Not too mention, that we can hardly judge how much weight this space ship had, but I give You that I also belive that it was more heavy than a bridge. Yet, BM lifted asteroid as big as Arkansas.

Iron Man and Wonder Man aren't nearly as strong as Wonder Woman....you didn't really dispute it with those statements. Not saying Wonder Woman is stronger than Blue Marvel, although its debatable.

#50 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

In this way, most feats would go down. I can't say that I will ever follow this logic, since it is only way to really show reflex speed. How would we know that some people used nanosecond reaction speed if not narrator's statements?

Well there's a difference. At least we can see the characters moving on panel which backs up the narrator's statement. With the Watcher's statement, it's just an estimate with no on panel guarantee. People moving at nano second speed are at least moving on panel. BM hasn't punched a moon yet Watcher simply says he can. Hard to take seriously when he hasn't shown anything close to it with his hits. Besides Diana's blocked punches from a real moon buster, namely Superman. BM won't be a problem

Destroying Olympus =/= destroying Earth/stopping such a power. Anti-Man was going to destroy whole humanity, but BM's control over anti-matter was higher. It is much above destroying Olympus. Besides point was that he also can create force fields, so this is not an advantage for her.

There's a difference between blocking an attack from a metahuman and blocking an attack from some gods. Skyfather level characters who combined their power into one blast that Wonder Woman still blocked. It's not above WW's feat since she blocked gods and all Marvel did was block one metahuman. A powerful metahuman but a meta all the same.

Out of character - WW wins without a doubt. Depends on her eq, even in more than one way.

In character - it depends on background. She isn't doing it to person with unknown abilities. Much like Thor, who isn't starting his battles with Mjolnir flying on his enemy 3 times FTL or with lightning that can put down Hulk and Surfer.

It doesn't matter how many feat he has. Insane Gennis-Vell also has only few feats, but he is above Odin, Thanos, Darkseid, WW, Blue Marvel and army of other characters form similar level.

What does the background have to do with it? WW's stronger. faster and more skilled and experienced with powerhouses like Marvel and can block Marvel's attacks. That's plenty of advantages in character to start with. What does Marvel have? And what does Thor or the other egs have to do with this fight? I'd quibble with the Thor one since Surfer and Thor have resisted Thor's lightning before but I don't understand the relevance. Besides, Marvel doesn't have the feats to put him above Wonder Woman. I've seen his feats and they're not enough to convince me he can beat Wonder Woman. I made a Captain Marvel vs Blue Marvel thread and the consensus was that Captain Marvel would win. Now WW is faster and more skilled than Billy so if Billy can beat Blue Marvel, Wonder Woman should no problem.