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#1 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio

who wins

#2 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman. He has hundreds of feats that make Blue Marvel look like scrub.

#3 Posted by thatguy (1206 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman...if he beats Sentry he can also beat Blue Marvel.

#4 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" Superman. He has hundreds of feats that make Blue Marvel look like scrub. "
people saying sentry can beat superman don't see why bm can't. i dont get his powers though
#5 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:
people saying sentry can beat superman don't see why bm can't. i dont get his powers though "
Sentry can't beat Superman. That's the problem. Those people don't know what they are talking about. Sentry hasn't even shown anything to be on Superman's level. Neither has Blue Marvel.
#6 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @krisboyz781 said:
people saying sentry can beat superman don't see why bm can't. i dont get his powers though "
Sentry can't beat Superman. That's the problem. Those people don't know what they are talking about. Sentry hasn't even shown anything to be on Superman's level. Neither has Blue Marvel. "
whats bm's powers
#7 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Superhuman strength, speed, and durability. Flight. Anti-matter blasts.

#8 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" Superhuman strength, speed, and durability. Flight. Anti-matter blasts. "
whats anti matter
#9 Posted by batosaims_ (270 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:
" @Static Shock said:
" Superman. He has hundreds of feats that make Blue Marvel look like scrub. "
people saying sentry can beat superman don't see why bm can't. i dont get his powers though "
Morons and Marvel fanboys [who are basically morons] Say that
Sentry isnt even in the same ball park as Supes, and Supes would rape Sentry and BM at the same time
#10 Edited by thatguy (1206 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:

" @Static Shock said:

" Superhuman strength, speed, and durability. Flight. Anti-matter blasts. "
whats anti matter "
Blue Marvel and Sentry stalemated....Supes takes both. thats all that really needs to be known..........personally i want to see Sentry and Blue Marvel bump heads again, seems like an even fight.
#11 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock: There is no use arguing Blue Marvel has the Ultimate Super Power to Kriz he is Black he can not be beaten
#12 Posted by thatguy (1206 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Static Shock: There is no use arguing Blue Marvel has the Ultimate Super Power to Kriz he is Black he can not be beaten "
lol i didn't want to say it.
#13 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Static Shock: There is no use arguing Blue Marvel has the Ultimate Super Power to Kriz he is Black he can not be beaten "
i just wanted to know his powers
#14 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:
" whats anti matter "
You read Adam: Legend of Blue Marvel 1-5, right?
#15 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @krisboyz781 said:
" whats anti matter "
You read Adam: Legend of Blue Marvel 1-5, right? "
nope
#16 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

supes would win here
#17 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:

" nope "

Hmmmmm....
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter
#18 Posted by King Saturn (224035 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Steel
#19 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2306 posts) - - Show Bio

Man'o'Steel.  
p.s. nice icon King[[[

#20 Posted by King Hercules (1160 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @krisboyz781 said:
" whats anti matter "
You read Adam: Legend of Blue Marvel 1-5, right? "
nope "

His power comes from anti-matter energy that makes up the Negative Zone which is another dimension or universe if you like.
#21 Posted by King Hercules (1160 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry and Blue Marvel are true rivals in power but neither are on the level of Superman.. He could take them both on and win.
#22 Posted by OhTru (1583 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman has a longer list of feats

#23 Posted by AZrock (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue Marvel will curb stomp American History X style Supes... Deal with it!
 

Powers and Abilities

Powers

Anti-Matter Energy Absorption: Theoretically, it seems to be the main source of Blue Marvel's power. This source of power is the energy released from anti-matter which derives from the inter-dimensional universe called the Negative Zone. Anti-matter is the same as normal matter except that the sub-atomic particles are the opposite charge. Therefore, anti-matter and normal matter cannot coexist without exploding. CERN recently made the first particles of anti-matter...apparently kept in a magnetically charged vacuum to keep it from coming in contact with normal matter. Nuclear fission releases energy with 1.5% efficiency; anti-matter releases energy with 100% efficiency. One gram of anti-matter contains the same energy as the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. One droplet could power New York City for a full day. Adam Brashear is the first human anti-matter generator and reactor. The experiment he gained his powers from renders his form unaffected from anti-matter.

Superhuman Strength: Blue Marvel possesses vast levels of superhuman strength. He was seen as capable of effortlessly lifting the 1960 era's American warship 'Enterprise' which weighs over 93,000 tons . The Blue Marvel is capable of greater feats of strength as when he easily moved a meteor "easily the size of Arkansas."

The Blue Marvel is even strong enough to strike with such force that he was able to make the Sentry bleed, knock him into orbit and momentarily knock him out all with a single punch. The Watcher states that Adam is capable of splitting the moon into two with a blow. He was able to directly engage Iron man, Ares, Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel in combat at the same time and casually overpower them.

Enhanced Mental Perception: Blue Marvel possesses the ability to sense & comprehend things on levels that far exceed human capabilities.

Superhuman Durability : Blue Marvel seems to possess nigh-invulnerability, being capable of withstanding tremendous impact forces. He has survived a hydrogen bomb blowing up in his hands unfazed . He is capable of withstanding blows from a large collection of superhumans made up of Ms. Marvel, Ares, Iron Man, Wonder Man, and Sentry unharmed. Blue Marvel can also breathe and survive in space .

Flight: Blue Marvel flies by manipulation of gravitons, manipulation of magnetic fields, control of his absolute molecular movement, and utilizing his superhuman speed. Blue Marvel can fly far beyond supersonic speeds. He has been seen flying into space unaided under his own power .

Superhuman Speed: Blue Marvel is capable of moving vastly faster than any normal human being, and he is able to move fast enough to keep up with the Sentry.

Superhuman Reflexes: Blue Marvel reflexes are similarly heightened and are superior to those of the finest human athletes being capable of catching bullets and dodging projectiles.

Superhuman Agility: Blue Marvel's natural balance, agility, and body coordination are enhanced to levels that are far beyond the natural physical limits of even the finest human athlete.

Superhuman Stamina: Blue Marvel's enhanced musculature is far more efficient than that of a human. As a result his muscles produce no fatigue toxins thereby granting him theoretically unlimited stamina.

Healing Factor: Despite his nigh invulnerability to injury, it is possible to injure Blue Marvel. If injured, his body is capable of quickly repairing damaged tissue with much greater speed and efficiency than the normal human body.

Superhuman Senses: Blue Marvel posseseses sensory abilities that exceed far above normal human capabilities.

Anti-matter Manipulation: Blue Marvel can absorb and generate vast amounts of anti-matter energy for various effects.

#24 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman.

#25 Posted by Suggs44 (567 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't even close. Supes trashes BM, he's on a whole other level.

#26 Posted by Surge2477 (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on what we know now, Superman with relative ease. There's not enough material for Blue Marvel vs the Man Of Steel.
#27 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

supes is just on another level really,bm is going down no doubt.
#28 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Hercules said:
"Sentry and Blue Marvel are true rivals in power but neither are on the level of Superman.. He could take them both on and win. "

Yep
#29 Posted by SilverGalford (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

superman wins
#30 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman
#31 Posted by Antonio_Blackheart (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

blue marvel wins
#32 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrikeDown said:
" blue marvel wins "
Right, except that Blue Marvel loses, badly
#33 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - - Show Bio

as of rite now my boi Blue Marvel doesn't have the feats to put him anywhere close to superman....So Superman got this

#34 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - - Show Bio

BM uses Gangsta Talk to confuse Supes, then Cheap shots him in the nuts and runs off.

#35 Posted by Mercy_ (92686 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Christ.

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#36 Posted by Mercy_ (92686 posts) - - Show Bio
@FinalStar86
@StrikeDown said:
" blue marvel wins "
Right, except that Blue Marvel loses, badly
This.
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#37 Edited by CaptainJustice (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins. But Blue Marvel puts up a better fight than Thor did against Supes (not saying that Blue Marvel could beat Thor per se. That would be a good fight too).
#38 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" BM uses Gangsta Talk to confuse Supes, then Cheap shots him in the nuts and runs off. "
This begs the question... Does Superman have nuts at all? It's always been established that he can't have human offspring.. Could it be that it's cause he's got no nuts and that Kryptonians produce sperm differently? Think about it... Hehehehe!
#39 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - - Show Bio

Do u really wanna start a convo on Supes Nuts right now?? Is that whats goin on?

#40 Posted by Golden Superman (416 posts) - - Show Bio

My man wins.

#41 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" BM uses Gangsta Talk to confuse Supes, then Cheap shots him in the nuts and runs off. "
 
Aahhh....that's insensitive. Gangsta talk? Really?
 
Not all African-Americans talk "Gangsta talk".
 
Anyways, Superman has a longer list of feats so he wins. Though it will be a very hard battle.
 
Anybody that can move a meteor that weighs millions (or billions) of tons can give Supes a run for his money.
 
Not to mention the fact that the creator of the character (Kevin Greivoux) believes BM is meant to be stronger than Superman.
#42 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" BM uses Gangsta Talk to confuse Supes, then Cheap shots him in the nuts and runs off. "
 Aahhh....that's insensitive. Gangsta talk? Really?   Not all African-Americans talk "Gangsta talk".  Anyways, Superman has a longer list of feats so he wins. Though it will be a very hard battle.  Anybody that can move a meteor that weighs millions (or billions) of tons can give Supes a run for his money.  Not to mention the fact that the creator of the character (Kevin Greivoux) believes BM is meant to be stronger than Superman. "
Which only means that we shouldn't belive writers.
 
Superman moved at least 1/3 of Earth which is much more than moving as big meteor as big as Arkansas. Better BM's "feat" are Watcher's words that he is able to easily destroy Moon. But IMO it still don't put him planet level threats.
 
So Superman is stronger than Blue Marvel. 
What with durability?
Superman survived Supernova, while BM's best feat is survivng Hydrogen Bomb explosion. So Superman outclasses him here.
What with reaction speed?
Blue Marvel don't have any real good speed feats, while Superman has nanosecond speed reaction. So Superman stomps him in this area.
 
Score:
Superman will curbstomp BM in seconds.
#43 Posted by ryanthereaper (414 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue Marvel Took on most of the mighty avengers at the same time with sentry. He pretty much beat King Hyperion. He's a anti matter generator.

#44 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael said:

" @deathlife said:

" @TheFlash4740 said:
" BM uses Gangsta Talk to confuse Supes, then Cheap shots him in the nuts and runs off. "
 Aahhh....that's insensitive. Gangsta talk? Really?   Not all African-Americans talk "Gangsta talk".  Anyways, Superman has a longer list of feats so he wins. Though it will be a very hard battle.  Anybody that can move a meteor that weighs millions (or billions) of tons can give Supes a run for his money.  Not to mention the fact that the creator of the character (Kevin Greivoux) believes BM is meant to be stronger than Superman. "
Which only means that we shouldn't belive writers.  Superman moved at least 1/3 of Earth which is much more than moving as big meteor as big as Arkansas. Better BM's "feat" are Watcher's words that he is able to easily destroy Moon. But IMO it still don't put him planet level threats.  So Superman is stronger than Blue Marvel.  What with durability? Superman survived Supernova, while BM's best feat is survivng Hydrogen Bomb explosion. So Superman outclasses him here. What with reaction speed? Blue Marvel don't have any real good speed feats, while Superman has nanosecond speed reaction. So Superman stomps him in this area.  Score: Superman will curbstomp BM in seconds. "
 
 
If it were any other writer i would dismiss but since he is the creator of the character, his word does carry some weight.  The thing with BM is that he hasn't actually appeared much outside his own mini-series (except in the Age of Heroes thing and when he smacked King Hyperion).
 
I agree that Superman beats Blue Marvel but it won't be easy. 
 
BM can destroy the moon, Superman could barely destroy the moon's shadow form (he knocked himself out doing it).
 
Superman can move 1/3 of the Earth, that will indicate he is stronger until we read otherwise.
 
BM surviving a hydrogen bomb at point blank range is an insane durability feat.  A hydrogen bomb can generate heat far,far greater than that of a sun.

 Again, i think Supes wins but i don't think it will be easy.
#45 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife:
supermans moved 1/3 of the earth but he was the strongest person doing it and they moved it a for a bit, hes moved the endless wheels of meggedon which is a far greater feat 
 
supermans also very stratigic and has super intelligence so he could put him down with some of his martian arts in a couple of pressure taps 
 
superman destroyed the shadow moon and got knocked out from the energy release more than likely as supergirls destryoed moons in the future and done it rather easily and superman > supergirl, though hes also shown and claimed and other people claming he can destroy the earth  
 
i actually didnt know a hydrogen bomb at pointblank is hotter than a star wow, well superman has also taken 2 planets colliding into him and only been knocked unconscious.
#46 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" @deathlife: supermans moved 1/3 of the earth but he was the strongest person doing it and they moved it a for a bit, hes moved the endless wheels of meggedon which is a far greater feat  supermans also very stratigic and has super intelligence so he could put him down with some of his martian arts in a couple of pressure taps  superman destroyed the shadow moon and got knocked out from the energy release more than likely as supergirls destryoed moons in the future and done it rather easily and superman > supergirl, though hes also shown and claimed and other people claming he can destroy the earth   i actually didnt know a hydrogen bomb at pointblank is hotter than a star wow, well superman has also taken 2 planets colliding into him and only been knocked unconscious. "
 
Agreed.
 
But the Meggedon thing didn't really strike me when i initially read the issue. It just seemed like a large ball in Superman hands. I guess i will have to re-read that particular series.
 
A hydrogen bomb can be hotter than a star. The heat release from a hydrogen bomb test was stated to be (no exaggeration here) 6,300 times hotter than the sun. 
 
That being said, if Supes can survive 2 planets colliding into him, his durability beats that of Blue Marvel.
#47 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife:
oh not him absorbing the energy i meant when he was moving the gears thats the best strength feat shown in dc comics since pre crisis unless you put in supeboy prime who was moving planets around the universe like baseballs. Oh well superman sun soaked feats might be better.
#48 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" @deathlife: oh not him absorbing the energy i meant when he was moving the gears thats the best strength feat shown in dc comics since pre crisis unless you put in supeboy prime who was moving planets around the universe like baseballs. Oh well superman sun soaked feats might be better. "
 
 
Oh yes....Supes moved Warworld (i don't know why Superman fans don't make reference to that more on these forums) sun dipped. Warworld is a planet that Supes moved AGAINST ITS PROPULSION (because  Brainiac was propelling the planet at the time)
 
Sun dipped Supes has the greatest post crisis feats.
#49 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife said:
"   If it were any other writer i would dismiss but since he is the creator of the character, his word does carry some weight.  The thing with BM is that he hasn't actually appeared much outside his own mini-series (except in the Age of Heroes thing and when he smacked King Hyperion). I agree that Superman beats Blue Marvel but it won't be easy.   BM can destroy the moon, Superman could barely destroy the moon's shadow form (he knocked himself out doing it).  Superman can move 1/3 of the Earth, that will indicate he is stronger until we read otherwise.  BM surviving a hydrogen bomb at point blank range is an insane durability feat.  A hydrogen bomb can generate heat far,far greater than that of a sun. Again, i think Supes wins but i don't think it will be easy. "
1.It doesn't matter. It only showes that he don't know Superman or he didn't do well making Blue Marvel. 
2.I was talking about Supernova. Supernova destroys solar systems with ease, while Hydrogen Bomb can't destroy more than few Cities at ones. So Supe's durability >>>>>>>>>>>> Blue Marvel's.
3.And Blue Marvel don't have reaction speed to keep up with Superman. Superman would throw dozen's punches on Blue Marvel ,before BM will answer.
 
@ryanthereaper said:
" Blue Marvel Took on most of the mighty avengers at the same time with sentry. He pretty much beat King Hyperion. He's a anti matter generator. "

Thery weren't even clearly fighting with him. And when Sentry comes, it was one on one. Only powerhouse beside Sentry in MA was Wonder Man, who is far weaker than Superman.
Also, King Hyperion after his last lost with Exiles (and 2 Hyperions), wasn't able to escape from his Earth, so how is he a threat to people like Superman?
#50 Edited by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael said:

" @deathlife said:

"   If it were any other writer i would dismiss but since he is the creator of the character, his word does carry some weight.  The thing with BM is that he hasn't actually appeared much outside his own mini-series (except in the Age of Heroes thing and when he smacked King Hyperion). I agree that Superman beats Blue Marvel but it won't be easy.   BM can destroy the moon, Superman could barely destroy the moon's shadow form (he knocked himself out doing it).  Superman can move 1/3 of the Earth, that will indicate he is stronger until we read otherwise.  BM surviving a hydrogen bomb at point blank range is an insane durability feat.  A hydrogen bomb can generate heat far,far greater than that of a sun. Again, i think Supes wins but i don't think it will be easy. "

1.It doesn't matter. It only showes that he don't know Superman or he didn't do well making Blue Marvel. 
2.I was talking about Supernova. Supernova destroys solar systems with ease, while Hydrogen Bomb can't destroy more than few Cities at ones. So Supe's durability >>>>>>>>>>>> Blue Marvel's.
3.And Blue Marvel don't have reaction speed to keep up with Superman. Superman would throw dozen's punches on Blue Marvel ,before BM will answer.
 
 
 
 
I'm quite sure Kevin knows Superman. Kevin is not a full time comic book writer, he's an actor and screen writer (he was in Underworld and actually wrote the script of that film), that will explain why he has not developed BM further but make no mistake the guy is a big,big comic book fan.
 
The Blue Marvel series wasn't about feats or anything like that, it was about racism and how the world would react to an African-American with that level of power. There was really no room in the series for feats (all those were referenced in flashback). However, if the creator has said he has created a character stronger than Supes, all he has to do is write a story in the future of BM carrying out some insane feat (like pulling two planets or something) and that will be the end of it.
Superman is not the be-all and end-all of powerful heroes.  
 
That being said, Supes does beat BM based on feats and facts that we have seen. That point is incontrovertible.