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#1 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight takes place on the moon. Both are amped up. Bloodlust. Who'll win?

#2 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyyybody?

#3 Posted by dondave (37612 posts) - - Show Bio

DS

#4 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Edited by Immortal777 (7600 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid easily he's superior in every way.

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#6 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5907 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid

#7 Edited by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't darkseid as strong as superman,who's as strong as sentry, who got his butt whupped by blue marvel

#8 Edited by The_Titan_Lord (5646 posts) - - Show Bio

DS

#9 Edited by Killemall (18583 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't darkseid as strong as superman,who's as strong as sentry, who got his butt whupped by blue marvel

That a long train of ABC logic there though man, and Sentry actually defeated Blue Marvel, barely though, as opposed to lose against him.

#10 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-N52 DS will lose it. Current? He should win it.

#11 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: yes, but he is also in the same league as the hulk, who was strong enough to face superman. You should try looking at what Marvel Database says about him

#12 Posted by SheenLantern (6656 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't darkseid as strong as superman,who's as strong as sentry, who got his butt whupped by blue marvel

Darkseid > Superman > Sentry > Blue Marvel

#13 Edited by Killemall (18583 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: yes, but he is also in the same league as the hulk, who was strong enough to face superman.

The true probably is but they have never fought before. Neither have Hulk and Superman so you are still trying to connect dots based on ABC logic which normally doesnt work.

You should try looking at what Marvel Database says about him

Marvel Database at the end of the day is wiki and is not official, sadly. The official site is actually called Marvunapp which works hand in hand with Marvel Handbook.

Its not the Handbook entry though, Blue Marvel lacks feats to suggest he can take on Darkseid.

#14 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Edited by XxGin (1365 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by Killemall (18583 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: what do you mean ,"ABC" logic?

Sort of like what you are doing. A wins B, B wins C, C wins D, therefor A wins against D sort of thing. Just because Blue Marvel is likely on same league as Hulk and Sentry, doesnt automatically mean he can fight Darkseid, specially given more often than not Darkseid is shown superior to Superman.

@killemall:

Against Pre-N52 DS? How?

Why not? His powers are rather unteasted and feats rather subsumed. He also has no answer to being BFRed by Darkseid and honestly Darkseid is likely stronger than him.

The only thing that would likely give Blue Marvel any sort of edge would be speed, something he has barely demonstrated in a fight.

#18 Posted by brainstorm01 (1366 posts) - - Show Bio

darkseid

#19 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

What proves that DS is stronger? Or that BM wouldn't block OB, if he could block King Hyperion's punches?

#20 Posted by XxGin (1365 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

What proves that DS is stronger? Or that BM wouldn't block OB, if he could block King Hyperion's punches?

If you touch OB you instantely get erased..

#21 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio

Anybody else?

#22 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10504 posts) - - Show Bio

According to BM's creator he was designed to go up and possibly beat anyone from Thanos to Thor to Supes to Darkseid but he could also lose to them depending on the conditions. We talked about it on FB.

#23 Posted by Freefa11 (2389 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@killemall:

What proves that DS is stronger? Or that BM wouldn't block OB, if he could block King Hyperion's punches?

If you touch OB you instantely get erased..

The beams can actually be tanked and/or blocked. Superman has done it more than once. Doomsday and Cyborg Superman also survived a hit. Mary Marvel has blocked them. They've also been blocked by the Entropy Aegis and Wonder Woman's bracelets. Whether or not Blue Marvel actually has enough durability to reasonably survive, I have no idea, I've never seen the character before, but it is theoretically possible.

#24 Edited by KingAres109 (1264 posts) - - Show Bio

@freefa11: Doomsday got turned to ash.But he came back.Thats wat he does.And on topIc,DarkseId stomps hard.DS one-shots hIm.

#25 Edited by KingAres109 (1264 posts) - - Show Bio

@freefa11: Doomsday got turned to ash.But he came back.Thats wat he does.And on topIc,DarkseId stomps hard.DS one-shots hIm.

#26 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@killemall:

What proves that DS is stronger? Or that BM wouldn't block OB, if he could block King Hyperion's punches?

If you touch OB you instantely get erased..

No, You don't as freefa11 said. Plus Superman blocked them with his heat vision, so BM can do the same with anti-matter beams.

@freefa11: Doomsday got turned to ash.But he came back.Thats wat he does.And on topIc,DarkseId stomps hard.DS one-shots hIm.

He didn't. There was big explosion and DD got buried under rocks.

#27 Posted by kingmark14 (768 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Edited by New_World_Order (13235 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid.

#29 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by New_World_Order (13235 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingmark14 said:

@czarny_samael666: so who wins in your opinion?

Blue Marvel, because he is stronger and was able to take down KH through combined energy projection and strength.

@thundergodswrath said:

Darkseid.

Reasons?

Hardly an example as Darkseid would also defeat King Hyperion. While Darkseid has gotten the better of Superman numerous of times, who is more powerful than King Hyperion.

#31 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@kingmark14 said:

@czarny_samael666: so who wins in your opinion?

Blue Marvel, because he is stronger and was able to take down KH through combined energy projection and strength.

@thundergodswrath said:

Darkseid.

Reasons?

Hardly an example as Darkseid would also defeat King Hyperion. While Darkseid has gotten the better of Superman numerous of times, who is more powerful than King Hyperion.

Hyperion-712 has better feats than Superman. KH pretty much beat two Hyperions, after some Namor-type girl broke his neck and Mimic attacked him in Colossus-type body with 1/2 speed of light.

I don't see how Superman is better than KH or H-712.

#32 Posted by Mattersuit (4280 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd see Darkseid winning it.

It'd be tough though.

#33 Posted by New_World_Order (13235 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@kingmark14 said:

@czarny_samael666: so who wins in your opinion?

Blue Marvel, because he is stronger and was able to take down KH through combined energy projection and strength.

@thundergodswrath said:

Darkseid.

Reasons?

Hardly an example as Darkseid would also defeat King Hyperion. While Darkseid has gotten the better of Superman numerous of times, who is more powerful than King Hyperion.

Hyperion-712 has better feats than Superman. KH pretty much beat two Hyperions, after some Namor-type girl broke his neck and Mimic attacked him in Colossus-type body with 1/2 speed of light.

I don't see how Superman is better than KH or H-712.

I'm going to just disagree on this.

#34 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath:

I would like to see reasons of this. Superman's best feat is destroying Dark Moon with Koing himself in the process.

#35 Posted by Bruxae (13916 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid easy.

#36 Edited by New_World_Order (13235 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath:

I would like to see reasons of this. Superman's best feat is destroying Dark Moon with Koing himself in the process.

And what is King Hyperion's best striking feat?

#37 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@thundergodswrath:

I would like to see reasons of this. Superman's best feat is destroying Dark Moon with Koing himself in the process.

And what is King Hyperion's best striking feat?

Depends how You look at it. But considering that You've put DS above Supe, because of Supe's feat, I don't see why You shouldn't do the same because of KH's and H-712 feats (planet level). Plus BM is above Supe considering as a fact Watcher's words.

#38 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (24980 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by Immortal777 (7600 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid easily he's superior in every way.

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#40 Posted by KingAres109 (1264 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously why this even being debated??God Darkseid stomps this Sentry reject!!End of discussion!!But really tho...Blue Marvel beat Darkseid??Its disrespectful to Superman who's been one-shotted by DS a few tImes.BM blitz Darkseid,DS side step him then proceed to one-shot hIm.

#41 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8067 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by Immortal777 (7600 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Posted by KingAres109 (1264 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by Freefa11 (2389 posts) - - Show Bio

@freefa11: Doomsday got turned to ash.But he came back.Thats wat he does.And on topIc,DarkseId stomps hard.DS one-shots hIm.

Um, no DD was certainly not turned to ash. He got knocked over and buried in some rubble for a few seconds. I really have never understood how apparently a number of people could read Hunter/Prey and somehow come to the conclusion that DD was killed to any extent, let alone turned to ash (or vaporized or however else it gets phrased from person to person).

Seriously why this even being debated??God Darkseid stomps this Sentry reject!!End of discussion!!But really tho...Blue Marvel beat Darkseid??Its disrespectful to Superman who's been one-shotted by DS a few tImes.BM blitz Darkseid,DS side step him then proceed to one-shot hIm.

Superman's encounters with Darkseid are generally stalemates to one degree or another. Superman has actually beaten DS in a straight up fight. He's lost too. Overall, they are on a similar level; Darkseid is a bit higher, but not so much that Superman can't win on a good day.

Again though, I really don't know much about Blue Marvel, other than he has a profoundly silly name.

#45 Posted by KingAres109 (1264 posts) - - Show Bio

@freefa11: Darkseid have won more often than not.So,in my opinion he's over Supes... So yeah Darkseid still sromps..

#46 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingares109: @dccomicsrule2011:

Reasons? Darkseid nor his opponents can destroy moon with their blows. He also didn't defeat anyone in King Hyperion level. His beams were reflected before, so they can be dealt with.

@immortal777 said:

Darkseid easily he's superior in every way.

Scans?

Seriously why this even being debated??God Darkseid stomps this Sentry reject!!End of discussion!!But really tho...Blue Marvel beat Darkseid??Its disrespectful to Superman who's been one-shotted by DS a few tImes.BM blitz Darkseid,DS side step him then proceed to one-shot hIm.

Because Superman isn't as strong as Blue Marvel.

@freefa11:

Score: 1-1.

And Watcher's statement:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40000/1306707-adam_blue_marvel__013.jpg

P.S.

Bonus - scans that suggest taking out Pagan (who defeated Thor before)

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/AgeofHeroes03pg21copy.jpg

Not a prove of strength, since we don't see context, but its suggesting level in which BM is meant to be.

#47 Posted by ComicStooge (12897 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingares109: @dccomicsrule2011:

Reasons? Darkseid nor his opponents can destroy moon with their blows. He also didn't defeat anyone in King Hyperion level. His beams were reflected before, so they can be dealt with.

@immortal777 said:

@immortal777 said:

Darkseid easily he's superior in every way.

Scans?

@kingares109 said:

Seriously why this even being debated??God Darkseid stomps this Sentry reject!!End of discussion!!But really tho...Blue Marvel beat Darkseid??Its disrespectful to Superman who's been one-shotted by DS a few tImes.BM blitz Darkseid,DS side step him then proceed to one-shot hIm.

Because Superman isn't as strong as Blue Marvel.

#48 Edited by Immortal777 (7600 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingares109: @dccomicsrule2011:

Reasons? Darkseid nor his opponents can destroy moon with their blows. He also didn't defeat anyone in King Hyperion level. His beams were reflected before, so they can be dealt with.

@immortal777 said:

@immortal777 said:

Darkseid easily he's superior in every way.

Scans?

@kingares109 said:

Seriously why this even being debated??God Darkseid stomps this Sentry reject!!End of discussion!!But really tho...Blue Marvel beat Darkseid??Its disrespectful to Superman who's been one-shotted by DS a few tImes.BM blitz Darkseid,DS side step him then proceed to one-shot hIm.

Because Superman isn't as strong as Blue Marvel.

@freefa11:

Score: 1-1.

And Watcher's statement:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40000/1306707-adam_blue_marvel__013.jpg

P.S.

Bonus - scans that suggest taking out Pagan (who defeated Thor before)

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/AgeofHeroes03pg21copy.jpg

Not a prove of strength, since we don't see context, but its suggesting level in which BM is meant to be.

You trolling bro? Because Blue Marvel has never destroyed a moon with a punch he's featless but Darkseid one shotted a planet recently.

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#49 Edited by Freefa11 (2389 posts) - - Show Bio

@immortal777: czarney_samael666 has been arguing against Pre-52 Darkseid. He already said he thought current DS would probably win.

#50 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge:

Flagged for trying to start a flamewar.

@immortal777:

As Freefa11 said. Current DS and Superman have clear planet level feats and DS KOd Superman with OB.

Pre-52 DS didn't have feats on this level.