Blue Marvel runs a gauntlet

There are lots of mixed opinions of this character so let's put him to the test:

1.Batman (Bruce has 1 Day prep with basic knowledge on BM.Start in whatever way from distance or area for Batman)

2.Wolverine (Both start 5ft from each other.5 seconds for Logan to ready himself)

3.Midnighter (Pre and Post 52.Start 10ft from each other.5 seconds for Middy to get ready before the fight begins)

4.Nemesis (Pre 52/Wildstorm.Start 15ft from each other. 5 Seconds for Nemesis to get ready before the fight begins)

5.Aquaman (Pre and Post 52 feats.No extra amps.Start 100ft from each other near a beach)

6.Wonder Woman (Pre and Post 52 feats. Start 1/5 a mile apart)

7.World War Hulk. (Can go World Breaker.Start 1/5 mile apart)

8.Gladiator (Full, unbreakable 100% confidence)

9.Thor

10.Superman (Pre and Post 52 feats)

11.Hal Jordan (Pre and Post 52 feats. Green and Blue ring)

12.H'el

13.Kyle Rayner (Pre and Post 52 feats)

14.Wally West (Pre 52)

15.Silver Surfer (Standard Post-Annihilation)

16.Majestic (Pre 52)

17.Darkseid (Pre and Post 52 feats)

18.Superman Prime

Final Round:Thanos

Setting: On an unbreakable Earth.Unless already given above, start in an open field a mile apart

Rules:

Morals completely off

Standard elimination

Standard equipment

No BFR

Read The OP!!!

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Also gauntlet is in whatever order.Questions please ask

Could stop at wolverine...how fast is blue marvel?

Blue Marvel stomps every round.

Nothing short of Galactus can handle the anti-matter punches.

Ends at wolverine. They start 5 feet away. If he raises his hand that already closes the distance by about 2 feet. That means all Wolverine has to do is jump forward 3 feet and slice his head off

He doesn't have a lot of showings but he was able to keep up with sentry.

He should beat wolverine.

They weren't really using their speed, and Sentry did later blitz him.

@reaverlation: Midnighter beats him. Nemesis should be below him (Midnighter) though. Wally's above Surfer too.

Midnighter too good. Also why is Wonder Woman so low?

Nemesis was able to hold off Mr.Majestic

@reaverlation: few people know who he is. u see some people saying that he stops at wolvie and midnighter. u should post some scans.

All wolverine has to do is close 3 feet of distance if he starts with his hand raised towards his target. Most humans arms are about 2 feet. A normal human can close rhat distance in about a second or less. Wolverine is atleast twice as fast as a human so that means wolverine could close that distance in less than half a second.

@christianrapper: It's not up to me to correct them.Maybe you should

True. Wolverine is way more than twice as fast as a human and with bloodlust he can one-shot marvel.

Actually everyone knows him around here.

Some people think Wolverine beats Hercules and certain versions of Hulk. His speed, agility and skill let's him run in circles around them and his durability let's him tank blows when he needs to. His claws can outright kill them, and they can certainly kill marvel.

bm scans are few and far between. i guess i will have to find the same 4.

Doors

Didnt karate kid handle nemesis. And nemesis handled majestic. and people think bluw marvel beats karate kid? Yea, no.

People should be informed when they talk, but i guess thats not how people roll these days. Everyone wants to be a loud mouth and talk without knowing what theyre talking about. They just want to be heard.. Sigh.

How do you know what speeds they were moving at? I don't believe there was much indication if they were or were not using their speed and sentry did say blue marvel pushed him to his limits so I imagine that would include speed as well. And Blue Marvel was a bit distracted when sentry blitzed him.

I normally wouldn't be saying this if we were talking about a character who's had a lot of appearances but blue marvel doesn't have that luxury yet so we kind of have to use what we got. He's probably just under sentry overall across the board. Not sure how far he makes but I'll say he stops at wonder woman for now, possibly aquaman if he can last long enough to use TP.

I dont wanna be that guy buuuuut stops at 1

@jashro44:

How do you know what speeds they were moving at? I don't believe there was much indication if they were or were not using their speed and sentry did say blue marvel pushed him to his limits so I imagine that would include speed as well. And Blue Marvel was a bit distracted when sentry blitzed him.

There's no indication they WERE using their speed. If that's not stated or shown, it's not assumed. Not holding back doesn't nesseccarily indicate speed. When Superman was possessed by Eclipso and fought captain marvel he didn't use speed.

I normally wouldn't be saying this if we were talking about a character who's had a lot of appearances but blue marvel doesn't have that luxury yet so we kind of have to use what we got. He's probably just under sentry overall across the board. Not sure how far he makes but I'll say he stops at wonder woman for now, possibly aquaman if he can last long enough to use TP.

True enough. Arthur should TP him if he can get past midnighter and nemesis(IDK much about either of them). He otherwise lacks the feats to justify beating most of the people here.

Stops at 7.

May stop at WWH, definitely Wally.

Stops at 6.

he's much faster than Wolverine. when he punches Anti-Man and went to grab him a gale force formed behind him. Wolverine is a special challenge but how Hulk and Thor always end up winning so would BM.

around Thor(Gladiator at 100% is more powerful then most of the list including Thor) becomes a major problem. From the official stats(I know not that official) BM is an overall 33 and Thor an overall 32. However outclasses him in speed and energy projection. His intelligence at a 6 like Bruce and Tony.

Stops at 7

@highaccuser:

There's no indication they WERE using their speed. If that's not stated or shown, it's not assumed. Not holding back doesn't nesseccarily indicate speed. When Superman was possessed by Eclipso and fought captain marvel he didn't use speed.

The superman fight with captain marvel is another topic for another day and I don't know too much about that fight. So no comment on that.

My main point with the blue marvel fight with sentry is that he was portrayed to be around his level. Its sort of like how we saw new 52 Helspont manhandle superman. If you were to make a new 52 helspont vs wolverine thread, Helspont doesn't have any showings against piercing damage and to my knowledge he has no speed feats...With that said considering the way he was portrayed and the fact he manhandled new 52 superman tells me he'd probably curbstomp wolverine. So all though he doesn't really have the feats due to his lack of appearances he does have that portrayal which is still enough for me to say he curbstomps wolverine. Its a similar idea with blue marvel only he's a lot less impressive than Helspont. He was able to give sentry a good fight and forced sentry to use everything he had to beat blue marvel, which is a lot more than what wolverine can do to sentry.

So due to the way blue marvel is portrayed closer to sentry's tiers and the fact that he hasn't really had the chance to prove his speed I think its reasonable enough to assume he's around sentry's level of speed until its proven otherwise. I think there is more evidence that blue marvel is faster than wolverine than the other way around.

How does he get past Aquaman, he has no feats against telepathy

@jashro44:

I see what you're saying, but Helspont is a bad example given he can one-shot Logan. I'm not saying Blue Marvel loses due to lacking feats, I'm saying the feats he does have don't agree with the idea that he has any amount of super speed. Even if a character is going all out, we can't assume they're actually using their speed the right way unless they're Flash. Being portrayed at a characters level doesn't show you have their speed. Hulk is written at Sentry's level, but that doesn't mean he's as fast as him. Sentry is written at Supermans level, but that doesn't make him as fast as Clark. Genocide was writted over Wonder Woman's level, but Diana admitted she was actually faster than her. Even Jay has been written at Wally's level, but we know who's the faster of the two. Powerhouses don't work that way-being on the same footing power wise doesn't make you on the same footing speed wise.

he is not losing to wolverine. he is leagues above him in speed and powers. i would say he gets to 10. if he gets by that then he gets stumped by darkseid at 17.

He doesnt. He might not even get past wolverine.

blue marvel can escape earth's gravity. that is super speed. his top speed isn't known. he stopped a meteor the size of arkansas so i would say that puts him leagues above logan.

That's travel, not combat.

You're looking too much into strength. That's not what matters here-Adam can't hit someone as quick as Logan while Logan can one-shot him.

Are people really saying Wolverine is faster in ANY way then BM? Racist

@highaccuser: a guy who can travel fast enough to escape the earth's gravity under his own power has the combat speed to react to wolverine. bm has the combat speed to react to hyperion and sentry. wolvie will be slow to him.

• Superhuman Strength: Blue Marvel possesses vast superhuman strength. He has been observed moving a meteor the size of Arkansas and routinely lifting and flying an aircraft carrier a considerable distance. The uppermost limits of his strength are unknown, but it equals or exceeds the likes of a vastly enraged Hulk, the Sentry and others.

• Superhuman Speed and Reflexes: Blue Marvel possesses the ability to think, move, and react at superhuman speeds.

• Superhuman Stamina: Blue Marvel possesses highly efficient musculature which produces almost no fatigue toxins, granting him almost limitless stamina in all physical activities.
• Superhuman Durability : The Blue Marvel has survived a hydrogen bomb blowing up in his hands unfazed ^[16]. He is capable of withstanding blows from a large collection of superhumans made up of Ms. Marvel, Ares, Iron Man, Wonder Man, and Sentry unharmed. Blue Marvel can also breathe and survive in space
• Superhuman Reflexes: Blue Marvel reflexes are similarly heightened and are superior to those of the finest human athletes being capable of catching bullets and dodging projectiles.

• Flight: Blue Marvel flies by manipulation of gravitons, manipulation of magnetic fields, control of his absolute molecular movement, and utilizing his superhuman speed. Blue Marvel can fly far beyond supersonic speeds. He has been seen flying into space unaided under his own power^[14], Thus Adam is capable of reaching speeds of at least escape velocity (7 miles per second).

  Superhuman Speed: Blue Marvel is capable of moving vastly faster than any normal human being, and he is able to move fast enough to keep up with the Sentry.

how is wolverine going to deal with that. blue marvel's top speed isn't know.

@highaccuser: Lowballing much, Wolverine would get stomped.

@dondave: AllstarSuperman already stated he doesn't use it enough to be used against Superman; however he uses it on BM; No.

You have told me various times that limited use means it shouldn't be looked into etc.

@christianrapper: all Wolverine has to do is move 3 feet forward. He can do that in about 1/4th of a second.

@agent41: Why was I tagged?

My post was obviously a joke.

are u for joking? it's hard to tell. wolvie wouldn't even be able to react to a person who can break the sound barrier.

Stops at 15, can probably beat 16 though.

@frozen: nemesis should beat midnighter and her gear is more dangerous to Blue Marvel in anycase.

??? Hes no reacting, all hes doing is atfacking forward. He moves at blur speeds. Thats more than 4 times faster than a human being. So really wolverine can close the 3 feet distance in like 1/8 of a second.

@kingant27: I'm not Allstarsuperman and he's incorrect

Nope. doesn't make it past Aquaman, no TP defense. Hell. he doesn't make it past midnighter, Doors. No way you can argue he can.

Stops definitely at Aquaman, could stop at Midnighter.

Darkraiden will try anyway...

is blue marvel going to sit there and watch him do that? he will be killed before he even got an inch. wolvie moves at blur speeds to a normal human. blue marvel is hundreds of times faster than logan. to adam, logan will be moving really slow.

Why not just let be surprised by the fact that he would when he does it, reminding me that he will just do it anyway makes me feel like it could happen any second....

@christianrapper: show proof of his speed, please.