#1 Edited by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright so the object here is to develop a team consisting of up to 3 people that can defeat a bloodlusted flash and bloodlusted zoom teaming up together. Your team is in character

Fight takes place on Earth, no BFR

Your team gets 5 days prep while zoom and flash get 1 day, both teams know who they are fighting

Your team cannot consist of anybody stronger than or equal to say Thanos in strength or intellect, exceptions include (because of debate) Superman, Thor, etc.

If this is to easy/hard i will adjust rules to make it interesting, but since Flash/Zoom are gods on here (not saying they shouldn't be lol) I figured this would be tough.

#2 Edited by dondave (36587 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom and Ultimate Reed Richards

#3 Posted by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Doom

Im not sure Doom can beat both of them even with that prep time. I know he is amazing but....maybe if he had some good help

#4 Posted by HyperViper97 (1342 posts) - - Show Bio

A day of prep for zoom and flash is infinite prep with their abilities. However, the five days prep I'm gonna say doom and, I dunno ras al ghul can probably do this

#5 Posted by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

A day of prep for zoom and flash is infinite prep with their abilities. However, the five days prep I'm gonna say doom and, I dunno ras al ghul can probably do this

What can Doom come up with to stop both zoom and flash? Especially since it would have to be something that requires literally no time to use because both Flash and Zoom could prevent him from doing anything if it takes time. My thought would be some sort of force field activated before the fight starts but idk im just not buying it lol

#6 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

Warlock Technarchy

Crusader Skrull w/Cosmic Ring

Kid Amazo

Warlock duplicates the cosmic ring which is a shard of a cosmic cube into a cosmic cube. Crusader Skrull absorbs it, Kid Amazo copies his powers.

#7 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

Man-Thing

Swamp-Thing & Dr Doom.

#8 Posted by TheMGR (194 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

Reed Richards

WB Hulk

#9 Posted by Saren (25618 posts) - - Show Bio

Professor Q, Metron and Brainiac 5. Q stretches the five days into relative years, and then they all build a new Genesis Box or a Miracle Machine, which is then used to recreate the universe minus Wally and Hunter.

I dunno, just tossing out a needlessly complicated and likely implausible idea.

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#10 Posted by Equonox (964 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Doom and Ultimate Reed Richards

This. Throw in Vibe too just for kicks.

#11 Posted by The_Imperator (1926 posts) - - Show Bio

A Shift (Faction Paradox series), and Godfather Avatar. Neither of these guys can be tagged by the Flash team. The Shift is a living idea, who simply infects either Wally or Zoom, and causes the other to attack that person. Godfather Avatar is a loa, a living shadow. He pulls out some kind of weapon, idk what he has thousands, and sets up shadow mines around that trigger when the Flash team's shadows touch them.

#12 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom by himself with prep is all you need.

#13 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

Professor Q, Metron and Brainiac 5. Q stretches the five days into relative years, and then they all build a new Genesis Box or a Miracle Machine, which is then used to recreate the universe minus Wally and Hunter.

I dunno, just tossing out a needlessly complicated and likely implausible idea.

i like those though

#14 Edited by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr Doom, Constantine, Juggernaut/Swamp Thing.

#15 Posted by jojjimbo (2472 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel Girl for the Megastomp =P

#16 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20164 posts) - - Show Bio

Professor Q, Metron and Brainiac 5. Q stretches the five days into relative years, and then they all build a new Genesis Box or a Miracle Machine, which is then used to recreate the universe minus Wally and Hunter.

I dunno, just tossing out a needlessly complicated and likely implausible idea.

Zoom's powers would also stretch their prep-time, and Wally could just keep rewinding time.

#17 Edited by Blood_Red_Rage (508 posts) - - Show Bio

Constantine, Takion and Waverider.

#18 Posted by kidman560 (7577 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaught

lobo

Doom

doom with prep could probably come up with something. but either way i dont see wally and zoom beating jugg or lobo

#19 Posted by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

ok im changing the rules a bit

#20 Posted by GhostRavage (8855 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Doom and Ultimate Reed Richards

This.

#21 Posted by Cooldes (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

Icon

Reed Richards

Squirrel girl

#22 Edited by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Doom and Ultimate Reed Richards

This.

I changed rules so nobody With that level intellect is allowed, simply because i was hoping for a good fight not just an instant end due to prep lol

#23 Posted by beautifulrevery (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Majestic, Dr. Doom, Juggernaut(Cain Marko)

#24 Posted by hardcorefakes (691 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright so the object here is to develop a team consisting of up to 3 people that can defeat a bloodlusted flash and bloodlusted zoom teaming up together. Your team is in character

Fight takes place on Earth, no BFR

Your team gets 5 days prep while zoom and flash get 1 day, both teams know who they are fighting

Your team cannot consist of anybody stronger than or equal to say Thanos in strength or intellect, exceptions include (because of debate) Superman, Thor, etc.

If this is to easy/hard i will adjust rules to make it interesting, but since Flash/Zoom are gods on here (not saying they shouldn't be lol) I figured this would be tough.

Flash and Zoom are only gods on the Vine. Which is why this place is a laughing stock on other sites. We overrate them so badly; to the point of them being gods. When they were never shown to be. All Flash/Zoom debates equate down to Flash/Zoom fanboys using hypothetical situations, in which Flash does 10 million IMPs in a picosecond. Which is hilarious. But the Zoom fanboys are worse. They claim that if a character can start in a position that Zoom can't overcome, is "not fair". Even with characters that usually start a battle in the air. Of course, when you put the airborne character down to their level, they magically get happier, and claim Zoom stomps. And when you point out their hypocrisy, they get mad. It's as if they think their characters are perfect. Show them a scan with Superman owning Flash with a finger, and the Flash fanboys go ballistic. Show a scan of Zoom being owned by a pipe, or point out that bullets can kill Zoom, and Zoom fanboys go ballistic.

It just makes the Vine seem silly.

#25 Posted by Equonox (964 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaught

lobo

Doom

doom with prep could probably come up with something. but either way i dont see wally and zoom beating jugg or lobo

I think Lobo and Juggs would both get stomped...neither one is smart enough to do anything with their prep, and neither is remotely fast enough to tag them. Juggs is immune to speed steal, but Flash could speed force dump him or the speedsters could just phase their fists through his head.

#26 Edited by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

@killers10333 said:

Alright so the object here is to develop a team consisting of up to 3 people that can defeat a bloodlusted flash and bloodlusted zoom teaming up together. Your team is in character

Fight takes place on Earth, no BFR

Your team gets 5 days prep while zoom and flash get 1 day, both teams know who they are fighting

Your team cannot consist of anybody stronger than or equal to say Thanos in strength or intellect, exceptions include (because of debate) Superman, Thor, etc.

If this is to easy/hard i will adjust rules to make it interesting, but since Flash/Zoom are gods on here (not saying they shouldn't be lol) I figured this would be tough.

Flash and Zoom are only gods on the Vine. Which is why this place is a laughing stock on other sites. We overrate them so badly; to the point of them being gods. When they were never shown to be. All Flash/Zoom debates equate down to Flash/Zoom fanboys using hypothetical situations, in which Flash does 10 million IMPs in a picosecond. Which is hilarious. But the Zoom fanb

ys are worse. They claim that if a character can start in a position that Zoom can't overcome, is "not fair". Even with characters that usually start a battle in the air. Of course, when you put the airborne character down to their level, they magically get happier, and claim Zoom stomps. And when you point out their hypocrisy, they get mad. It's as if they think their characters are perfect. Show them a scan with Superman owning Flash with a finger, and the Flash fanboys go ballistic. Show a scan of Zoom being owned by a pipe, or point out that bullets can kill Zoom, and Zoom fanboys go ballistic.

It just makes the Vine seem silly.

Because on the Vine, people use high end feats mostly and claim who's the winner based off of the high end feats. If there are low end feats to nullify the high end, they usually go with the one that's more constant, I.e; the high end feats.

So in theory, Flash and Zoom should be able to beat lots of people on the Vine. I have seen some cases where they've actually lost.

#27 Posted by BigCimmerian (8108 posts) - - Show Bio

Constantine, Doom and Thanos.

#28 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Hour man one million.

#29 Posted by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

Kuurth breaker of stone- cyttorak connection not lost. He cant be bfrd.

Bart allen- from titans tomorrow

#30 Posted by uberhikari (2474 posts) - - Show Bio

In order to defeat characters like Flash and Zoom, all you need are characters more hax than them. So, meet:

Giorno Giovanna

Dark Schneider (without DKL)

Tenchi Masaka (before he became Kami Tenchi)

Neither Flash nor Zoom are getting through their defenses.

#31 Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1988 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman, Hyperion, Reed Richards, Dr.Doom and Thanos as my team. Or Captain Universe alone.

#32 Edited by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

New Son

Earth-X Absorbing Man

Quasar (Wendell Vaughn)

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#33 Edited by beautifulrevery (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman, Hyperion, Reed Richards, Dr.Doom and Thanos as my team. Or Captain Universe alone.

Alright so the object here is to develop a team consisting of up to 3 people that can defeat a bloodlusted flash and bloodlusted zoom teaming up together. Your team is in character

That's 5 people. Try again

#34 Edited by hardcorefakes (691 posts) - - Show Bio

@hardcorefakes said:

@killers10333 said:

Alright so the object here is to develop a team consisting of up to 3 people that can defeat a bloodlusted flash and bloodlusted zoom teaming up together. Your team is in character

Fight takes place on Earth, no BFR

Your team gets 5 days prep while zoom and flash get 1 day, both teams know who they are fighting

Your team cannot consist of anybody stronger than or equal to say Thanos in strength or intellect, exceptions include (because of debate) Superman, Thor, etc.

If this is to easy/hard i will adjust rules to make it interesting, but since Flash/Zoom are gods on here (not saying they shouldn't be lol) I figured this would be tough.

Flash and Zoom are only gods on the Vine. Which is why this place is a laughing stock on other sites. We overrate them so badly; to the point of them being gods. When they were never shown to be. All Flash/Zoom debates equate down to Flash/Zoom fanboys using hypothetical situations, in which Flash does 10 million IMPs in a picosecond. Which is hilarious. But the Zoom fanb

ys are worse. They claim that if a character can start in a position that Zoom can't overcome, is "not fair". Even with characters that usually start a battle in the air. Of course, when you put the airborne character down to their level, they magically get happier, and claim Zoom stomps. And when you point out their hypocrisy, they get mad. It's as if they think their characters are perfect. Show them a scan with Superman owning Flash with a finger, and the Flash fanboys go ballistic. Show a scan of Zoom being owned by a pipe, or point out that bullets can kill Zoom, and Zoom fanboys go ballistic.

It just makes the Vine seem silly.

Because on the Vine, people use high end feats mostly and claim who's the winner based off of the high end feats. If there are low end feats to nullify the high end, they usually go with the one that's more constant, I.e; the high end feats.

So in theory, Flash and Zoom should be able to beat lots of people on the Vine. I have seen some cases where they've actually lost.

...Yet Superman has had more impressive feats than Flash or Zoom. Zoom fanboys mostly use the same scan of Wonder Woman getting punched across the world. And use her statement of "it hurts more than a punch from Superman". And really, there are so many holes in this, it's not even funny. Are we to assume that Zoom casually punches harder than Superman, or he does it at his best? And has Superman punched Wonder Woman with all his strength? Because Zoom fanboys think that Zoom is always punching people harder than Superman.

In theory.

In theory, Superman punching anybody with the force he packs should create a nuclear explosion. But I don't point that out. You get attacked for using logic against those two camps.

At least they're not as bad as the Surfer fanboys.....oh god......

#35 Edited by Mr_Jordan (26 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman, Silver Surfer, and Black Adam. All have speeds that at least rival The Flash. While Adam and Norrin might even exceed his. These three should be able to take on Flash and Zoom.

#36 Posted by GhostRider2 (3282 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos, Doom and Silver Surfer.

#37 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1988 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3661 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel girl, Eva Longoria and Geoff Johns.

2 of them could solo, 1 of them already has... (dickhead)

#39 Posted by ZombieMowlcher (677 posts) - - Show Bio

Since no one has said it, I will.......

BATMAN!

#40 Posted by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos, Doom and Silver Surfer.

nobody thanos level intellect or strength allowed...cause i realize doom could probably destroy with prep lol

#41 Posted by GhostRider2 (3282 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by sync1 (2960 posts) - - Show Bio

New Sun, Barry Allen, and Silver Surfer can probably take them.

#43 Posted by DarkRaiden (6971 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Super Adaptoid. With 5 days prep, speed doesn't even affect them (due to shields) and the flashes are easily wiped from existence. Oh and Super Adaptoid would have their powers. All 4 of their powers combined.

#44 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

Super Adaptoid could solo, he copied the power of a Cosmic Cube and the Quantum Bands in like his one day of glory and had to be tricked into shutting down

Given 5 days with a competent assistant he could take over marvel with incredible ease

#45 Posted by killers10333 (224 posts) - - Show Bio

@killers10333: i thought he was the limit.

Oh sorry lol, I meant that people his level and higher cant be used, including him. Sorry for confusion lol

#46 Posted by Wardemon32 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, they basically have an unlimited amount of time to go in the future to get any sort of technology they want. Can't tehy just steal the worlogog?