Blade vs Iron Fist

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#1  Edited By HalJordan1986x

If done before go ahead and lock

Random fight
Who wins

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#2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Iron Fist.OVERKILL.

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#3  Edited By bloodmist

Iron Fist would take it.

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#4  Edited By HalJordan1986x

no love for blade

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Blade's fighting skill compared to Danny's is a joke...and all he will have to rely on is his physical ability which won't be much of an advantage.

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#6  Edited By HalJordan1986x

hes good with weapons though

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#7  Edited By bloodmist
HalJordan1986x said:
"hes good with weapons though"

I agree, but I still say Iron Fist. Though I don't think this is a case of overkill like Vance seems to.
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#8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
HalJordan1986x said:
"hes good with weapons though"
So are alot of people Iron Fist beat the sh#t out of.
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#9  Edited By gunswordfist

But Blade has guns?!!!

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#10  Edited By OgreMan
gunswordfist said:
"But Blade has guns?!!!"

Danny dodges and catches bullets so I really don't see guns being a problem.
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#11  Edited By Nitric
Vance Astro said:
"Iron Fist.OVERKILL."
bloodmist said:
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Iron Fist would take it.

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Vance Astro said:
"Blade's fighting skill compared to Danny's is a joke...and all he will have to rely on is his physical ability which won't be much of an advantage."
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#12  Edited By Kid Crow

Iron Fist fights Blade like Neo did against Agent Smith in the end of Matrix 1.  Booooring.

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#13  Edited By King_Saturn
Ray Park beats the crap out of Wesley Snipes...
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#14  Edited By Ferro Vida
King Saturn said:
"Ray Park beats the crap out of Wesley Snipes...
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LMMFAO

hellz yeah


Okay, Iron Fist takes it. He has fought people who are skilled with weapons and won, and people with superhuman attributes and won.

Danny ftw
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Ferro Vida said:
"King Saturn said:
"Ray Park beats the crap out of Wesley Snipes...
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LMMFAO

hellz yeah


Okay, Iron Fist takes it. He has fought people who are skilled with weapons and won, and people with superhuman attributes and won.

Danny ftw"
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#16  Edited By geraldthesloth

Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy

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#17  Edited By gunswordfist
geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"

He has a healing factor AND a better one than Blade's? I must see that.
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#18  Edited By Trackz

His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist.

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#19  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
Ferro Vida said:
He has fought people who are skilled with weapons and won, and people with superhuman attributes and won.
As if this couldn't be said for pretty much any comic hero...
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geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"
Better fighter..Yes!
Better Healing Factor...No! Not even close.
Able to dodge anything Blade has....Yes


Trackz said:
"His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist."
Blade really isn't a master.He isn't a master martial artist..he is only an expert armed combatant.He knows a few styles but he isn't a master of any of them.The fight would go hand to hand because Iron Fist could easily disarm Blade...no weapons..no armed combat.His Adamantium sword won't do any better than any other sword.It's not like it shoots lasers or anything like that..it's a sword just like any other..just more likely to kill because of it's sharpness.

Iron Fist wins.Blade has 0 defense against a fighter of Danny's magnitude.The healing factor and durability is the only thing that will allow him to keep getting up.
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#21  Edited By Jungle

yea.... Iron Fist would win

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#22  Edited By The_Scourge
Iron Fist
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#23  Edited By Trackz
Vance Astro said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"
Better fighter..Yes!
Better Healing Factor...No! Not even close.
Able to dodge anything Blade has....Yes


Trackz said:
"His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist."
Blade really isn't a master.He isn't a master martial artist..he is only an expert armed combatant.He knows a few styles but he isn't a master of any of them.The fight would go hand to hand because Iron Fist could easily disarm Blade...no weapons..no armed combat.His Adamantium sword won't do any better than any other sword.It's not like it shoots lasers or anything like that..it's a sword just like any other..just more likely to kill because of it's sharpness.

Iron Fist wins.Blade has 0 defense against a fighter of Danny's magnitude.The healing factor and durability is the only thing that will allow him to keep getting up.
"
yeah blade is, he's already shown knowledge of multiple martial arts.  PLus no, ironfist couldnt easily disarm blade seeing as he's a master of all of his weaponary, he's just as good with his sword as ironfist is at hand-to-hand, howeverbeing a wepaons master>hand-to-hand master,Blade has more range and wit hhis adamantium sword h could slice thorugh ironfist easily, not only that Ironfist hasn't shown himself t obe faster, you havent offered any proof that ironfist could easily disarm blade, ironfist being able to disarm unskilled characters in no way proves he can disarm Blade who has  near 100 years of experience and has never lost a sword fight to my knowledge.
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#24  Edited By castleking

i say blade with his superhuman speed and sword attacks combine with his guns and accuracy will be hell for danny to avoid without taking a single hit.. the odds are on blade winning IMO.

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#25  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Trackz said:
"Vance Astro said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"
Better fighter..Yes!
Better Healing Factor...No! Not even close.
Able to dodge anything Blade has....Yes


Trackz said:
"His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist."
Blade really isn't a master.He isn't a master martial artist..he is only an expert armed combatant.He knows a few styles but he isn't a master of any of them.The fight would go hand to hand because Iron Fist could easily disarm Blade...no weapons..no armed combat.His Adamantium sword won't do any better than any other sword.It's not like it shoots lasers or anything like that..it's a sword just like any other..just more likely to kill because of it's sharpness.

Iron Fist wins.Blade has 0 defense against a fighter of Danny's magnitude.The healing factor and durability is the only thing that will allow him to keep getting up.
"
yeah blade is, he's already shown knowledge of multiple martial arts.  PLus no, ironfist couldnt easily disarm blade seeing as he's a master of all of his weaponary, he's just as good with his sword as ironfist is at hand-to-hand, howeverbeing a wepaons master>hand-to-hand master,Blade has more range and wit hhis adamantium sword h could slice thorugh ironfist easily, not only that Ironfist hasn't shown himself t obe faster, you havent offered any proof that ironfist could easily disarm blade, ironfist being able to disarm unskilled characters in no way proves he can disarm Blade who has  near 100 years of experience and has never lost a sword fight to my knowledge."
Knowledge of martial arts is not the same as mastery.Iron Fist could easily disarm blade.He has disarmed better weapons masters than him.Stop acting like Blade is the best weapons master in Marvel because he's not even close.Cap is more noted for his hand to hand and he's a better weapons master than Blade..as is Wolverine.I could name better weapons master all day..even some Iron Fist easily beat.Weapons never beats h2h in Marvel..I don't know where your getting that from.The Punisher uses more weapons than anyone and Captain America,Daredevil,Moon Knight,Wolverine..all disarmed him to continue fights.It doesn't matter if the adamantium sword could slice through Iron Fist easily..A sword is a sword..if you can dodge one you can dodge them all.Just because the sword is adamantium doesn't mean it adds any range or speed.What makes you think someone who easily dodges bullets would have trouble dodging Blade with a sword? He's not that fast.I never mentioned Iron Fist disarming any unskilled characters..so you're making a case against something I never said..and who cares how much experience Blade has.Thor has more experience with weapons than him and he's not even top 10 with weapons in Marvel.


castleking said:
"i say blade with his superhuman speed and sword attacks combine with his guns and accuracy will be hell for danny to avoid without taking a single hit.. the odds are on blade winning IMO."
Superhuman speed is nothing.Danny has fought and beat people with super speed and strength to match.Blade is nowhere near Danny's level of fighting skill and even if Danny did take a hit..Blade isn't going to just knock him out.That hit would have to be well placed to knock him out.Iron Fist has excellent durability for someone of his level.I don't see Blade winning..Danny is a planner.He maps out fights in mid-battle.He is a smarter fighter than Blade and he packs a punch that Cap could barely block with his shield.You know..the same shield he used to block hits from the Hulk.
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#26  Edited By Trackz
Vance Astro said:
"Trackz said:
"Vance Astro said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"
Better fighter..Yes!
Better Healing Factor...No! Not even close.
Able to dodge anything Blade has....Yes


Trackz said:
"His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist."
Blade really isn't a master.He isn't a master martial artist..he is only an expert armed combatant.He knows a few styles but he isn't a master of any of them.The fight would go hand to hand because Iron Fist could easily disarm Blade...no weapons..no armed combat.His Adamantium sword won't do any better than any other sword.It's not like it shoots lasers or anything like that..it's a sword just like any other..just more likely to kill because of it's sharpness.

Iron Fist wins.Blade has 0 defense against a fighter of Danny's magnitude.The healing factor and durability is the only thing that will allow him to keep getting up.
"
yeah blade is, he's already shown knowledge of multiple martial arts.  PLus no, ironfist couldnt easily disarm blade seeing as he's a master of all of his weaponary, he's just as good with his sword as ironfist is at hand-to-hand, howeverbeing a wepaons master>hand-to-hand master,Blade has more range and wit hhis adamantium sword h could slice thorugh ironfist easily, not only that Ironfist hasn't shown himself t obe faster, you havent offered any proof that ironfist could easily disarm blade, ironfist being able to disarm unskilled characters in no way proves he can disarm Blade who has  near 100 years of experience and has never lost a sword fight to my knowledge."
Knowledge of martial arts is not the same as mastery.Iron Fist could easily disarm blade.He has disarmed better weapons masters than him.Stop acting like Blade is the best weapons master in Marvel because he's not even close.Cap is more noted for his hand to hand and he's a better weapons master than Blade..as is Wolverine.I could name better weapons master all day..even some Iron Fist easily beat.Weapons never beats h2h in Marvel..I don't know where your getting that from.The Punisher uses more weapons than anyone and Captain America,Daredevil,Moon Knight,Wolverine..all disarmed him to continue fights.It doesn't matter if the adamantium sword could slice through Iron Fist easily..A sword is a sword..if you can dodge one you can dodge them all.Just because the sword is adamantium doesn't mean it adds any range or speed.What makes you think someone who easily dodges bullets would have trouble dodging Blade with a sword? He's not that fast.I never mentioned Iron Fist disarming any unskilled characters..so you're making a case against something I never said..and who cares how much experience Blade has.Thor has more experience with weapons than him and he's not even top 10 with weapons in Marvel.


castleking said:
"i say blade with his superhuman speed and sword attacks combine with his guns and accuracy will be hell for danny to avoid without taking a single hit.. the odds are on blade winning IMO."
Superhuman speed is nothing.Danny has fought and beat people with super speed and strength to match.Blade is nowhere near Danny's level of fighting skill and even if Danny did take a hit..Blade isn't going to just knock him out.That hit would have to be well placed to knock him out.Iron Fist has excellent durability for someone of his level.I don't see Blade winning..Danny is a planner.He maps out fights in mid-battle.He is a smarter fighter than Blade and he packs a punch that Cap could barely block with his shield.You know..the same shield he used to block hits from the Hulk.
"
thats horrible logic, since captain america and daredevil can disarm punisher (who is weaker, slower, and less experienced than Blade) ironfist (who isnt at all faster or stronger) can disarm Blade? No, it doesnt work like that, plus neither punisher nor thor have shown the sheer versatility in weaponary that Blade has (who has shown mastery over nunchuks, chains, staffs, various swords, stakes, throwing knives, boomerangs, needles, etc.) Blade outclasses punisher in every conceivable way, so people being able to disarm him in no way proves that ironfist would be able to disarm blade. You said Ironfist has disarmed people before, which no way proves that he could disarm Blade, Blade has beaten stronger and faster opponents does that mean he could be ironfist, and when has Ironfist faught someone with a sword who had trained with it for near one hundred years and was stronger than him (ironfist also doesn't have a speed advantage)
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#27  Edited By Static Shock
gunswordfist said:
"But Blade has guns?!!!"
Doesn't matter. Danny dodges machine gun fire.
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#28  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Trackz said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Trackz said:
"Vance Astro said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"
Better fighter..Yes!
Better Healing Factor...No! Not even close.
Able to dodge anything Blade has....Yes


Trackz said:
"His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist."
Blade really isn't a master.He isn't a master martial artist..he is only an expert armed combatant.He knows a few styles but he isn't a master of any of them.The fight would go hand to hand because Iron Fist could easily disarm Blade...no weapons..no armed combat.His Adamantium sword won't do any better than any other sword.It's not like it shoots lasers or anything like that..it's a sword just like any other..just more likely to kill because of it's sharpness.

Iron Fist wins.Blade has 0 defense against a fighter of Danny's magnitude.The healing factor and durability is the only thing that will allow him to keep getting up.
"
yeah blade is, he's already shown knowledge of multiple martial arts.  PLus no, ironfist couldnt easily disarm blade seeing as he's a master of all of his weaponary, he's just as good with his sword as ironfist is at hand-to-hand, howeverbeing a wepaons master>hand-to-hand master,Blade has more range and wit hhis adamantium sword h could slice thorugh ironfist easily, not only that Ironfist hasn't shown himself t obe faster, you havent offered any proof that ironfist could easily disarm blade, ironfist being able to disarm unskilled characters in no way proves he can disarm Blade who has  near 100 years of experience and has never lost a sword fight to my knowledge."
Knowledge of martial arts is not the same as mastery.Iron Fist could easily disarm blade.He has disarmed better weapons masters than him.Stop acting like Blade is the best weapons master in Marvel because he's not even close.Cap is more noted for his hand to hand and he's a better weapons master than Blade..as is Wolverine.I could name better weapons master all day..even some Iron Fist easily beat.Weapons never beats h2h in Marvel..I don't know where your getting that from.The Punisher uses more weapons than anyone and Captain America,Daredevil,Moon Knight,Wolverine..all disarmed him to continue fights.It doesn't matter if the adamantium sword could slice through Iron Fist easily..A sword is a sword..if you can dodge one you can dodge them all.Just because the sword is adamantium doesn't mean it adds any range or speed.What makes you think someone who easily dodges bullets would have trouble dodging Blade with a sword? He's not that fast.I never mentioned Iron Fist disarming any unskilled characters..so you're making a case against something I never said..and who cares how much experience Blade has.Thor has more experience with weapons than him and he's not even top 10 with weapons in Marvel.


castleking said:
"i say blade with his superhuman speed and sword attacks combine with his guns and accuracy will be hell for danny to avoid without taking a single hit.. the odds are on blade winning IMO."
Superhuman speed is nothing.Danny has fought and beat people with super speed and strength to match.Blade is nowhere near Danny's level of fighting skill and even if Danny did take a hit..Blade isn't going to just knock him out.That hit would have to be well placed to knock him out.Iron Fist has excellent durability for someone of his level.I don't see Blade winning..Danny is a planner.He maps out fights in mid-battle.He is a smarter fighter than Blade and he packs a punch that Cap could barely block with his shield.You know..the same shield he used to block hits from the Hulk.
"
thats horrible logic, since captain america and daredevil can disarm punisher (who is weaker, slower, and less experienced than Blade) ironfist (who isnt at all faster or stronger) can disarm Blade? No, it doesnt work like that, plus neither punisher nor thor have shown the sheer versatility in weaponary that Blade has (who has shown mastery over nunchuks, chains, staffs, various swords, stakes, throwing knives, boomerangs, needles, etc.) Blade outclasses punisher in every conceivable way, so people being able to disarm him in no way proves that ironfist would be able to disarm blade. You said Ironfist has disarmed people before, which no way proves that he could disarm Blade, Blade has beaten stronger and faster opponents does that mean he could be ironfist, and when has Ironfist faught someone with a sword who had trained with it for near one hundred years and was stronger than him (ironfist also doesn't have a speed advantage)"
No..it's not my logic that is flawed..it's your understanding of what my logic is.I am not saying that Cap and Daredevil disarming the Punisher means that Iron Fist can do it to Blade..I am saying that is how armed fights go down.The Punisher has fought Daredevil with enough weaponry to take down Wolverine and only caused him minor injuries.All of his weapons were knocked out of his hands..or he dropped them when he was tackled.Saying the Punisher and Thor have showed versatility with weapons just proves you have no idea what your talking about.Nobody in Marvel has shown more versatility with weaponry than the Punisher.He has someone working with him who make experimental weapons for him.He learns to use new weapons effectively on an almost weekly basis.There have been events in Marvel History where the Punisher started off unarmed and gradually gained weapons from taking people out and used those weapons effectively.Civil War is an example of that.I could name several others.You don't have to tell me what weapons Blade is skilled with..it doesn't matter.He uses way less than that on a constant basis.I said that Iron Fist has disarmed better weapons masters before and he has beaten people with the speed and strength to match.I also don't know what makes you think Iron Fist is not knowledgeable of weapons.Like I said before..it doesn't matter how much exp Blade has.It's not about how long you've been doing it..it matter what you learned in that time,and seeing as how there are alot of people in Marvel alot better in armed combat..I would assume all that time counted for nothing.
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#29  Edited By Marvel Knight

I would think Iron Fist could take Blade.

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#30  Edited By Static Shock
Vance Astro said:
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You can't argue with someone that thinks Captain America, Black Panther, and Wolverine have superhuman strength.
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#31  Edited By Trackz
Vance Astro said:
"Trackz said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Trackz said:
"Vance Astro said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"Danny

better fighter

better healing factor

able to dodge basically anything blades got

he takes this one easy"
Better fighter..Yes!
Better Healing Factor...No! Not even close.
Able to dodge anything Blade has....Yes


Trackz said:
"His healing factor isn't better, and Blade is a master martia lartist, not that it matters seeing as the fight wouldnt go to hand-to-hand, Blade is a master or weaponary, his adamantium sword would make him a match for ironfist."
Blade really isn't a master.He isn't a master martial artist..he is only an expert armed combatant.He knows a few styles but he isn't a master of any of them.The fight would go hand to hand because Iron Fist could easily disarm Blade...no weapons..no armed combat.His Adamantium sword won't do any better than any other sword.It's not like it shoots lasers or anything like that..it's a sword just like any other..just more likely to kill because of it's sharpness.

Iron Fist wins.Blade has 0 defense against a fighter of Danny's magnitude.The healing factor and durability is the only thing that will allow him to keep getting up.
"
yeah blade is, he's already shown knowledge of multiple martial arts.  PLus no, ironfist couldnt easily disarm blade seeing as he's a master of all of his weaponary, he's just as good with his sword as ironfist is at hand-to-hand, howeverbeing a wepaons master>hand-to-hand master,Blade has more range and wit hhis adamantium sword h could slice thorugh ironfist easily, not only that Ironfist hasn't shown himself t obe faster, you havent offered any proof that ironfist could easily disarm blade, ironfist being able to disarm unskilled characters in no way proves he can disarm Blade who has  near 100 years of experience and has never lost a sword fight to my knowledge."
Knowledge of martial arts is not the same as mastery.Iron Fist could easily disarm blade.He has disarmed better weapons masters than him.Stop acting like Blade is the best weapons master in Marvel because he's not even close.Cap is more noted for his hand to hand and he's a better weapons master than Blade..as is Wolverine.I could name better weapons master all day..even some Iron Fist easily beat.Weapons never beats h2h in Marvel..I don't know where your getting that from.The Punisher uses more weapons than anyone and Captain America,Daredevil,Moon Knight,Wolverine..all disarmed him to continue fights.It doesn't matter if the adamantium sword could slice through Iron Fist easily..A sword is a sword..if you can dodge one you can dodge them all.Just because the sword is adamantium doesn't mean it adds any range or speed.What makes you think someone who easily dodges bullets would have trouble dodging Blade with a sword? He's not that fast.I never mentioned Iron Fist disarming any unskilled characters..so you're making a case against something I never said..and who cares how much experience Blade has.Thor has more experience with weapons than him and he's not even top 10 with weapons in Marvel.


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"i say blade with his superhuman speed and sword attacks combine with his guns and accuracy will be hell for danny to avoid without taking a single hit.. the odds are on blade winning IMO."
Superhuman speed is nothing.Danny has fought and beat people with super speed and strength to match.Blade is nowhere near Danny's level of fighting skill and even if Danny did take a hit..Blade isn't going to just knock him out.That hit would have to be well placed to knock him out.Iron Fist has excellent durability for someone of his level.I don't see Blade winning..Danny is a planner.He maps out fights in mid-battle.He is a smarter fighter than Blade and he packs a punch that Cap could barely block with his shield.You know..the same shield he used to block hits from the Hulk.
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thats horrible logic, since captain america and daredevil can disarm punisher (who is weaker, slower, and less experienced than Blade) ironfist (who isnt at all faster or stronger) can disarm Blade? No, it doesnt work like that, plus neither punisher nor thor have shown the sheer versatility in weaponary that Blade has (who has shown mastery over nunchuks, chains, staffs, various swords, stakes, throwing knives, boomerangs, needles, etc.) Blade outclasses punisher in every conceivable way, so people being able to disarm him in no way proves that ironfist would be able to disarm blade. You said Ironfist has disarmed people before, which no way proves that he could disarm Blade, Blade has beaten stronger and faster opponents does that mean he could be ironfist, and when has Ironfist faught someone with a sword who had trained with it for near one hundred years and was stronger than him (ironfist also doesn't have a speed advantage)"
No..it's not my logic that is flawed..it's your understanding of what my logic is.I am not saying that Cap and Daredevil disarming the Punisher means that Iron Fist can do it to Blade..I am saying that is how armed fights go down.The Punisher has fought Daredevil with enough weaponry to take down Wolverine and only caused him minor injuries.All of his weapons were knocked out of his hands..or he dropped them when he was tackled.Saying the Punisher and Thor have showed versatility with weapons just proves you have no idea what your talking about.Nobody in Marvel has shown more versatility with weaponry than the Punisher.He has someone working with him who make experimental weapons for him.He learns to use new weapons effectively on an almost weekly basis.There have been events in Marvel History where the Punisher started off unarmed and gradually gained weapons from taking people out and used those weapons effectively.Civil War is an example of that.I could name several others.You don't have to tell me what weapons Blade is skilled with..it doesn't matter.He uses way less than that on a constant basis.I said that Iron Fist has disarmed better weapons masters before and he has beaten people with the speed and strength to match.I also don't know what makes you think Iron Fist is not knowledgeable of weapons.Like I said before..it doesn't matter how much exp Blade has.It's not about how long you've been doing it..it matter what you learned in that time,and seeing as how there are alot of people in Marvel alot better in armed combat..I would assume all that time counted for nothing."
it doesnt matter what the punisher can do, dont bring other peoples fights into this, the only fights that matter are those of blades and ironfists., I've already give nthe long list of weapons blade has used (and thats not all of them) and yet you havent backed up your claim that thor and punisher are more versatile. Plus punisher learning to use new weapons isn't the same as Blade who mastered various weapons and various styles of using them over his overhundred years.  give examples who has Ironfist ever disarmed who was as fast and as strong as Blade? And Blade has learned a lot over his time seeing as he's never lost a sword fight and has shown mastery with all weapons he uses, and you havent given any evidence to prove any of the claims your making.
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You can't argue with someone that thinks Captain America, Black Panther, and Wolverine have superhuman strength."
you mean characters who have all consistently shown superhuman strength?  infact it would just mean peak human in marvel is a level of superhuma nstrength, handbooks<onpanel feats especially when the on panel feats are consistent, i nfact if yo uwant t obase this on handbooks, the battle is already Blades seeing as he has superior strength/speed/durability and he's a master of nearly all weaponary known to man :
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you mean characters who have all consistently shown superhuman strength?  infact it would just mean peak human in marvel is a level of superhuma nstrength.
Black Panther has never consistently showed superhuman strength (unless you want to show me scans, recent ones, and not old ones from several years ago, because I own every Black Panther comic there is). Neither has Cap (except for the time Viper's poison had a reaction with the Super-Soldier Serum, temporarily granting him superhuman strength). Wolverine's adamantium skeleton bumps his strength up to the pinnacle of human perfection (800 lbs).
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you mean characters who have all consistently shown superhuman strength?  infact it would just mean peak human in marvel is a level of superhuma nstrength.
Black Panther has never consistently showed superhuman strength (unless you want to show me scans, recent ones, and not old ones from several years ago, because I own every Black Panther comic there is). Neither has Cap (except for the time Viper's poison had a reaction with the Super-Soldier Serum, temporarily granting him superhuman strength). Wolverine's adamantium skeleton bumps his strength up to the pinnacle of human perfection (800 lbs)."
black panthers power level hasnt changed old scans or new, despite that he snaps monsters necks throws trees, over powers gorillas and rhinos, captain america pulls cars around, supported tons of debris, stopped an elevator, and wolverine has consistently shown super strength too....and his adamantium skeleton does nothing to his strength, it in fact makes him weaker seeing as his healing factor is constantly fighting the adamantium poisoning and he has to compensate for the extra weight. basically they have ben shown lifting over a ton on too many occasions for it to be called PIS, Black Panthers origin even describe the herb as giving him supra natural abilities.
again if you want to cling to the handbooks and forget consistent on-panel feats, Blade wins this fight.
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Trackz said:
"black panthers power level hasnt changed old scans or new, despite that he snaps monsters necks throws trees, over powers gorillas and rhinos, captain america pulls cars around, supported tons of debris, stopped an elevator, and wolverine has consistently shown super strength too....and his adamantium skeleton does nothing to his strength, it in fact makes him weaker seeing as his healing factor is constantly fighting the adamantium poisoning and he has to compensate for the extra weight. basically they have ben shown lifting over a ton on too many occasions for it to be called PIS, Black Panthers origin even describe the herb as giving him supra natural abilities.
again if you want to cling to the handbooks and forget consistent on-panel feats, Blade wins this fight.
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You're right. It hasn't. Because he's not superhuman in strength. Snap a monster's neck? You mean the one he fought when he was with Fantastic Four? It was just a monster. You don't even know how strong or durable that monster is (based on how easily T'Challa was wailing on it, it wasn't very strong or durable). Tossing trees? How big were the trees? Wresting gorillas? Gorillas weigh a maximum of 400 lbs, and even they don't have peak-human strength. Wrestling rhinos? Do you know how strong a rhino is? None of this means he has superhuman strength. Captain America temporarily had superhuman strength for a few issues and I just explained why. If he's doing things out of that arc, then it's inconsistent. Wolverine, without the adamantium skeleton, only has the strength of a normal human man. With it, his strength increases. The adamantium doesn't make him weaker. Where did you get that from? Black Panther has never lifted over a ton. All of his lifting feats (very few of them) don't even have a definite weight to them. And it wasn't on too many occasions, so I don't know which Black Panther comics you have been reading. The herb granted him peak-human physical attributes and superhuman senses, and it's said even in the comics. Check out Black Panther volume 3. Everett Ross is the narrator, and he says it himself. LOL.

Instead of making claims that Black Panther has superhuman strength, why don't you post some real evidence? Word of mouth isn't enough sometimes, especially if you overexaggerate it.
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Static Shock said:
"Trackz said:
"black panthers power level hasnt changed old scans or new, despite that he snaps monsters necks throws trees, over powers gorillas and rhinos, captain america pulls cars around, supported tons of debris, stopped an elevator, and wolverine has consistently shown super strength too....and his adamantium skeleton does nothing to his strength, it in fact makes him weaker seeing as his healing factor is constantly fighting the adamantium poisoning and he has to compensate for the extra weight. basically they have ben shown lifting over a ton on too many occasions for it to be called PIS, Black Panthers origin even describe the herb as giving him supra natural abilities.
again if you want to cling to the handbooks and forget consistent on-panel feats, Blade wins this fight.
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You're right. It hasn't. Because he's not superhuman in strength. Snap a monster's neck? You mean the one he fought when he was with Fantastic Four? It was just a monster. You don't even know how strong or durable that monster is (based on how easily T'Challa was wailing on it, it wasn't very strong or durable). Tossing trees? How big were the trees? Wresting gorillas? Gorillas weigh a maximum of 400 lbs, and even they don't have peak-human strength. Wrestling rhinos? Do you know how strong a rhino is? None of this means he has superhuman strength. Captain America temporarily had superhuman strength for a few issues and I just explained why. If he's doing things out of that arc, then it's inconsistent. Wolverine, without the adamantium skeleton, only has the strength of a normal human man. With it, his strength increases. The adamantium doesn't make him weaker. Where did you get that from? Black Panther has never lifted over a ton. All of his lifting feats (very few of them) don't even have a definite weight to them. And it wasn't on too many occasions, so I don't know which Black Panther comics you have been reading. The herb granted him peak-human physical attributes and superhuman senses, and it's said even in the comics. Check out Black Panther volume 3. Everett Ross is the narrator, and he says it himself. LOL.

Instead of making claims that Black Panther has superhuman strength, why don't you post some real evidence? Word of mouth isn't enough sometimes, especially if you overexaggerate it."
its been stated multiple times that wolverines adamantium skeletont axes his healing factor, and he has to compensate for the extra 300 pounds, adamantium however doesnt make him stronger, weapon x did that, stated.
captain america has consistnely performed superhuman feats of strength that required over-one ton strength

supranormal abilities, stated:



the rest of them have plenty of on panel feats in excess of 1000 pounds, which is considered superhuman strength by marvel

once again if yo uwant to base the battle on handbooks, its over seeing as blade is stronger/faster/more durable considered a master martial artist and a mastery of nearly every weapon known to man. this topic is over.
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I can't see the picture. And, Black Panther has never lifted anything in excess of 1000 lbs. Captain America and Wolverine's strength feats are inconsistent. Different writers portray characters different. Why is that so hard to understand? And, I was never arguing the topic of this thread with you. That's irrelevant to me.

Anyway, what does the picture have it? Anybody?

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LOL. I can see the picture now. That doesn't prove anything. Supra-normal abilities? The only thing supra-normal about him is his senses. Other than that, it doesn't prove he has superhuman strength, nor does it say it anywhere. Wait until I get off work. I'm going to show you something else.

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Static Shock said:
"LOL. I can see the picture now. That doesn't prove anything. Supra-normal abilities? The only thing supra-normal about him is his senses. Other than that, it doesn't prove he has superhuman strength, nor does it say it anywhere. Wait until I get off work. I'm going to show you something else."
it says they were marveled by his supranormal abilities, you think they were astonished by his senses? you think they loved the fact he could see in complete darkness? there are more feats, the respect thread is on herochat.net you sould check it out there are a lot of scans, and the majority of cap and wolverines feats have them over 1000 pounds in strength, I havent seen them struggle with anything under it.
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Trackz said:
"it says they were marveled by his supranormal abilities, you think they were astonished by his senses? you think they loved the fact he could see in complete darkness? there are more feats, the respect thread is on herochat.net you sould check it out there are a lot of scans, and the majority of cap and wolverines feats have them over 1000 pounds in strength, I havent seen them struggle with anything under it."
I don't see why not. They could have been marveled by his peak-human abilities, as it was explicitly said in his on-going series and not in limted series (that scan was from Panther's Prey). Anyway, what's the link to the respect thread? I bet it has thing that I have already seen, and doesn't label anything over peak-human. Post the link, please. I still have a point to prove when I get off work.
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Static Shock said:
"Trackz said:
"it says they were marveled by his supranormal abilities, you think they were astonished by his senses? you think they loved the fact he could see in complete darkness? there are more feats, the respect thread is on herochat.net you sould check it out there are a lot of scans, and the majority of cap and wolverines feats have them over 1000 pounds in strength, I havent seen them struggle with anything under it."
I don't see why not. They could have been marveled by his peak-human abilities, as it was explicitly said in his on-going series and not in limted series (that scan was from Panther's Prey). Anyway, what's the link to the respect thread? I bet it has thing that I have already seen, and doesn't label anything over peak-human. Post the link, please. I still have a point to prove when I get off work."
im not sure how to post likns on comice vine I dont think [url]herochat.net[/url] works, but not that it matters, there no point to any of these debates if youre just oing t ouse handbooks rather than comic feats.
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Trackz said:
"im not sure how to post likns on comice vine I dont think [url]herochat.net[/url] works, but not that it matters, there no point to any of these debates if youre just oing t ouse handbooks rather than comic feats."

I can go by feats as long as they don't linger outside of the characters capabilities. Just copy the link from the URL and paste it.
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Iron Fist would have a fight on his hands. He wouldn't conme out of it without battle scars.

I think he would win cause Blade couldn't hold off his iron fist.

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Danny ftw.