Blackheart vs Apocalypse
" Apocalypse isn't that powerful. Blackheart easily stomps him. "Apoc not powerful?
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Well, does this fight happen outside of Blackheart's/Mephisto's realm? I think it would have to be in order for Apocalypse to have a shot...
" Well, does this fight happen outside of Blackheart's/Mephisto's realm? I think it would have to be in order for Apocalypse to have a shot... "Outside
"Based on his power description
He is powerful but not that powerful. There is no way he could go toe to toe with teir 1 characters (Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Surfer, etc) "
He could, though he wouldn't win
For example, he has near limitless strength like the Hulk
Not even Thor can say that
" Someone told Blackheart ripped a planet with his telekinesis . "His powers are near omnipotent (like his father)
When in the Darkforce Dimension
I left out a important parrt of the battle
Blackheart is fighting in his true form
That would mean he power levels are not near limitless
That really wasn't a complete Hulk. He was missing Banner who went into the Heroes Reborn Universe. He was also dying because of this. Apocalypse would stand no chance against WWHulk, Mindless Hulk or Maestros. Not without the aid of the Celestial Tech anyway." @Manchine said:
"Apocalypse already subdued the Hulk. Also, Apocalypse at full power can defeat any incarnation of the Hulk. As for this battle: can Blackheart's powers overcome Celestial Technology? "
He is powerful but not that powerful. There is no way he could go toe to toe with teir 1 characters (Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Surfer, etc) "
And I think this is only his power. It doesn't mention the use of the tech.
" @Alpha: There is no "aid" of Celestial Technology. He has already completely merged with it long, long ago. Most of his powers come from the Celestial Technology and those are his permanent powers now. And why can't Apocalypse defeat World War Hulk or World Breaker Hulk? "I thought you were asking if their was further aid than what he has already used. I know that the full potential of his own mutant power has been accessed because of the tech and that is the level he is shown to be now. Apocalypse has never displayed a level that would show the needed power to beat these two Hulks. WWHulk shrugged off the power of Sentry and Worldbreaker was even more powerful than him with energy manipulation added to his great strength. Mindless Hulk was the power that gave the heroes the defeat over Onslaught.
" @Manchine said:"Apocalypse already subdued the Hulk. Also, Apocalypse at full power can defeat any incarnation of the Hulk. As for this battle: can Blackheart's powers overcome Celestial Technology? "
He is powerful but not that powerful. There is no way he could go toe to toe with teir 1 characters (Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Surfer, etc) "
Your right he did defeat the hulk....after the hulk fought the entire Xmen.
" @Edamame said:And was not complete and dying." @Manchine said:Your right he did defeat the hulk....after the hulk fought the entire Xmen. ""Apocalypse already subdued the Hulk. Also, Apocalypse at full power can defeat any incarnation of the Hulk. As for this battle: can Blackheart's powers overcome Celestial Technology? "
He is powerful but not that powerful. There is no way he could go toe to toe with teir 1 characters (Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Surfer, etc) "
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