thanks for lagging my pc...Scarcrow is the only one that can beat her.
Black Widow in Nolanverse
@dstreet45: you're kinda right there, they are definitely to much for her, but I think she could escape alone, not meeting them at the stairs. Maybe jump out of a window.
The Car chase would be a lot easier to solve for her, than a some people think, because she could just drive into the forest if she makes it that far. That's why I said "maybe". It's not easy, but also not impossible.
@dstreet45: you're kinda right there, they are definitely to much for her, but I think she could escape alone, not meeting them at the stairs. Maybe jump out of a window.
What window? I'm pretty sure the only way out was through those stairs. And there weren't any windows in the room Batman and Gordon were in.
The Car chase would be a lot easier to solve for her, than a some people think, because she could just drive into the forest if she makes it that far.
The problem is how is she getting to a forest from the middle of the city in the first place? Squad cars aren't exactly slow and unlike the Tumbler a motorcycle with no gear isn't bullying multiple squad cars into submission before they catch up or before other cars cut her off.
That's why I said "maybe". It's not easy, but also not impossible.
Maybe so but is it likely that she'd escape? I personally don't think so. Too many cops cars and she doesn't have the tech to drive them off. And your plan involved leaving Rachel, which Widow can not do or else she fails that round anyway even if she does manage to escape.
I don't want to come off as a jerk and like you said it's not impossible but I don't think it's very likely she would escape even if she does ditch Rachel.
So... what's stopping her from being killed by Scarecrow's gas? It almost killed Batman when he was exposed to it. With no antidote, she stops there.
Unless anyone has a compelling reason why her tasers won't basically win every 1v1 fight, I'd say she clears.
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Because the rounds aren't 1v1 fights? You think she could take out a entire stairway full of armed SWAT agents, another 10+ armed SWAT agents outside blocking the only available exit, and several dozen of armed police officers backing them up, with tasers? While carrying Rachel to help her escape before she dies from Crane's poison? That's what she has to do in Round 3.
Not to mention that some of the rounds aren't as simple as beating everyone up. How is she going to capture Crane when he's escaping in his van while she's busy fighting armed goons, armed Batman copycats (while having to protect them), and dogs in Round 5? How is she going to save the hostages from being sniped by SWAT agents across the street in round 6? How is she going to find out who has the trigger to the bomb if she knocks Bane out with tasers in the last round? Or how does she plan to destroy the Tumblers guarding the truck with the bomb, get the bomb and carry it away from the city in time before it explodes?
I still don't see why people think it's as easy as tasing or shooting everyone in sight. She still needs to complete the objectives in each round.
@dstreet45: Have Nolanverse thugs and police ever hit something with their guns?
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@dstreet45: Have Nolanverse thugs and police ever hit something with their guns?
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That's a good point. She could literally just walk through them as they shoot around her feet and jam their guns.
@dstreet45: Have Nolanverse thugs and police ever hit something with their guns?
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Doesn't matter. 10+ SWAT agents (conservative number) with automatic weapons vs 1 person with decent aim, limited ammo/gear, a liability (Rachel), and no cover. You do the math.
But to answer your question yes they have. TDK Bank Heist scene for thugs, TDKR Blake failing to rescue the cops scene for mercenaries, TDKR war scene for both cops and thugs since you see some dead bodies in the end.
@dstreet45: Have Nolanverse thugs and police ever hit something with their guns?
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Floopay
That's a good point. She could literally just walk through them as they shoot around her feet and jam their guns.
Funny how in the very same gif posted you see people fall from being shot.
@killer_judge_: is it just me, or are all of these battles you keep making basically the same?
i feel like we've already done every possible variation of MCU v Nolan v CW v Kickass v etc. possible. lol
@dstreet45: Considering their running in a straight line down the street against a horde of guys with thugs, more than 5-6 bodies should have been in the street.
The Spanish took on armies of armed Latin American's with spears, weapons, and better melee training with zero casualties and far less advanced technologies. Yet Bane's thugs took down maybe 6 cops from long distance who were unarmed with little armor and running in a straight line.
Nolanverse cops/thugs/SWAT are terrible.
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@dstreet45: Considering their running in a straight line down the street against a horde of guys with thugs, more than 5-6 bodies should have been in the street.
That's more than enough to say that they at least have a shot of tagging Natasha at closer range and aren't completely terrible at aiming.
Scan 1: Mob Bank Manger shoots Joker goon.
Scan 2: Mercenary shoots cop.
Scans 3-4: Pile of dead bodies from shootout that occurs while Talia is leaving the scene.
Scan 5: Mercenary shoots a SWAT member.
Scan 6: Bane's goon shoots innocent bystander.
Scan 7 : SWAT member shoots thug.
Scan 8: Mercenary snipes two SWAT officers.
Yet Bane's thugs took down maybe 6 cops from long distance who were unarmed with little armor and running in a straight line.
And how many people do the SWAT members need to aim for in round 3? Just one, in a scenario involving closer range, an environment with that will likely limit the movement from their target, and while the target is caring for a dying person.
Nolanverse cops/thugs/SWAT are terrible.
Based on one clip in one scene where they actually hit some of the people they were aiming for? Even if they just spray and pray they still have a better chance of tagging Natasha than she does of leaving the building with Rachel in one piece. Especially when your plan is that they get taken out one by one by Widow bites.
If scarecrow can get close enough to her before being koed, the he might take her out. Otherwise, she clears
@killer_judge_: Black Widow stops at Joker maybe and at Bane definitely
If she has to go through everything Bats went through she stops at crane. She does not have the intelligence to save herself from crane fear gas. Giving her Basic knowledge if giving her a boost over what Batman had making this kinda pointless.
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