Black Panther & Wolverine vs Zealot & Deadpool

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#1  Edited By majestic99

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1.No prep, all bloodlusted, win by KO, takes place in NYC 10 ft apart.

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1.BP= Possesses Wakadan tech(energy daggers, anti-metal claws, and vibranium suit)

2.Wolverine=unarmed(sort of, if you catch that he has "claws" that was my attempt at a joke)

3.Zealot=Two Kusar Blades

4.Deadpool=2 smg's(sub machine guns), 2 Kusar Blades, an infinite amount of frag and smoke grounds

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PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR CHOICE!!!!

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#2  Edited By nefarious

Zealot solos. She has given Midnighter a good fight.

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#3  Edited By majestic99

@Nefarious said:

Zealot solos. She has given Midnighter a good fight.

This Midnighter right?

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#4  Edited By nefarious
@majestic99: Yes.
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#5  Edited By majestic99

@Nefarious said:

@majestic99: Yes.

That doesn't explain how she gets past BP's Wakandan tech.

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#6  Edited By nefarious

She will find a way.

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#7  Edited By Saren

@majestic99 said:

@Nefarious said:

@majestic99: Yes.

That doesn't explain how she gets past BP's Wakandan tech.

m99

She can slice through his armor. Not sure about the anti-metal claws since I know next to nothing about anti-metal.

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#8  Edited By majestic99

@CitizenBane said:

She can slice through his armor. Not sure about the anti-metal claws since I know next to nothing about anti-metal.

"He(Black Panther) is outfitted with metals that can dissolve other metals on contact."

Since I have the book right in front of me:

Source: Marvel's Encyclopedia:The Avengers

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Atlhough I don't know if it includes metal which can "absorb the heat of a thousand suns and shave the rough edged off an electron."

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#9  Edited By Stompa

A good one but Zealot is propably the most skilled one in this battle and a bloodlusted DP is also a huge factor i think that team 2 should take it if DP takes this seriously.

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#10  Edited By majestic99

@CitizenBane:

You going to comment?

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#11  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Be an interesting debate ... can the unique metal of Wildstorm's world slash through Marvel's vibranium.

I don't know enough about Zealot to proffer any kind of independently informed opinion on this fight. But if she's on Midnighter's level, and considering the wild hard-on we Viners have for Midnighter, I guess team two.

Crappy reasoning, but until I break through the malaise and decide, finally, to read some Midnighter (et. al.) I'll have to trust all the respect thread gunk and pics of feats I've seen thus far for Mr. Battlebrain.

(If anyone has suggested reading in this regard, feel free).

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#12  Edited By jeanroygrant

@Nefarious said:

Zealot solos. She has given Midnighter a good fight.
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#13  Edited By sandiego008

Going to go with team 2 ... I think zealot is skilled enough to find a way past black panthers armor.

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#14  Edited By pooty

@Super_SoldierXII: @sandiego008: @majestic99: Iron fist got through BP armor with his iron fist. Killmonger cut through the armor with buzz blades. Kraven cut through his suit with a knife. So it comes down to skill. The most skilled team wins.

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#15  Edited By sandiego008

@pooty said:

@Super_SoldierXII: @sandiego008: @majestic99: Iron fist got through BP armor with his iron fist. Killmonger cut through the armor with buzz blades. Kraven cut through his suit with a knife. So it comes down to skill. The most skilled team wins.

Team 2 wins in spades then due to zealot.

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#16  Edited By ThexX

Team 2 wins

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#17  Edited By Static Shock

@majestic99 said:

That doesn't explain how she gets past BP's Wakandan tech.

m99

Her blades will make the suit insignificant. Regular blades have cut through it (Malice did it with claws on her wrist, Kraven did it with a hunting knife). Sabretooth has even slashed through it. As far as his claws cutting up her sword, that's going to be difficult; her sword gives her the range advantage. He might as well ask to get his fingers cut off.

The issue here is whether or not her swords could cut through Wolverine's adamantium-laced bones.

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Killmonger cut through the armor with buzz blades.

That's because the Thrice-Blessed Armor wasn't made of vibranium. In the issue prior, Killmonger's wrist blade broke in half when he tried to get through the Vibranium suit. Had the Thrice-Blessed Armor been made of the same material, those saw blades wouldn't have an effect.

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#18  Edited By majestic99

@Static Shock:

BP's anti-metal claws dissolve all forms of metal. I don't know about Zealot's Kusar Blade, though. It seems noone read my avengers encylopedia comment.

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#19  Edited By pooty

@majestic99: we read your comment. He(Black Panther) is outfitted with metals that can dissolve other metals on contact."

For one it doesn't mean it automatically dissolves all metals. It may take time and a few attempts. I doubt it can instantly dissolve any metal. And that comment only applies to 616 Marvel universe. It may not apply to all metals in other dimensions, universes ect. So we don't know if it applies or not. But i doubt he can just touch her blade and destroy it.

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#20  Edited By majestic99

@pooty:

Well, even if it can't, BP has energy daggers, and a suit that has dished out War Machine's attacks.

I highly doubt Zealot solos.

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#21  Edited By Saren

For what it's worth, Captain Atom was surprised at how fast Zealot was.

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#22  Edited By Static Shock

@majestic99 said:

@Static Shock:

BP's anti-metal claws dissolve all forms of metal.

m99

Of course it can, but it's risky because of Zealot's reach with her sword.

@majestic99 said:

@pooty:

Well, even if it can't, BP has energy daggers, and a suit that has dished out War Machine's attacks.

That wasn't War Machine. That was Iron Man. Tony (from a parallel future) was wearing a stealth version of his suit that had countermeasures against T'Challa's vibranium suit. You cannot compare a near-infinitely sharp sword to blunt force trauma. The suit is better-equipped to deal with the latter than the former.

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#23  Edited By Static Shock

@pooty said:

For one it doesn't mean it automatically dissolves all metals. It may take time and a few attempts. I doubt it can instantly dissolve any metal.

I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

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#24  Edited By TDK_1997

I think that Zealot and Deadpool win.

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Honestly at Zealot's skill level, she does not really need the swords.

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#26  Edited By majestic99

@CitizenBane said:

For what it's worth, Captain Atom was surprised at how fast Zealot was.

When did this happen?(issue, context, versions of characters,etc.)

@Static Shock said:

That wasn't War Machine. That was Iron Man. Tony (from a parallel future) was wearing a stealth version of his suit that had countermeasures against T'Challa's vibranium suit. You cannot compare a near-infinitely sharp sword to blunt force trauma. The suit is better-equipped to deal with the latter than the former.

My doubt is that it can dissolve a virtually indestructible sword(referencing the "heat of a thousand suns") that can cut through virtually anything:

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#27  Edited By ReVamp

Nevermind, that was stupid. Even more than usual.

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#28  Edited By Static Shock

@majestic99 said:

When did this happen?(issue, context, versions of characters,etc.)

Captain Atom: Armageddon #4. It happened in the very same encounter that took place with the scans you posted.

@majestic99 said:

My doubt is that it can dissolve a virtually indestructible sword(referencing the "heat of a thousand suns") that can cut through virtually anything:

m99

I wasn't saying that the claws couldn't cut through the sword (whether it can or not is moot). I'm saying T'Challa would risk having his fingers (or his arm) amputated, trying swing his two-to-three inch claws at Zealot's swords while they are still in her hands. He would have to confiscate them from her first, which wouldn't be easy.

@ReVamp said:

Nevermind, that was stupid. Even more than usual.

LOL.

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#29  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Writers need to find new, impressive and expressive ways to state "really, really powerful and impressive".

Using "X" number of suns to proclaim how powerful something or someone is is getting real old.

Lol.

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#30  Edited By majestic99

@MisterWhisper said:

Honestly at Zealot's skill level, she does not really need the swords.

How is she going to get past BP's Vibranium suit? With her bare hands?

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#31  Edited By Saren

@majestic99 said:

@MisterWhisper said:

Honestly at Zealot's skill level, she does not really need the swords.

How is she going to get past BP's Vibranium suit? With her bare hands?

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With her sword? The sharp pointy thing she swings through the air?

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#32  Edited By majestic99

@CitizenBane said:

With her sword? The sharp pointy thing she swings through the air?

He said she doesn't need the sword, implying she can somehow solo team 2 without her swords.

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#33  Edited By majestic99

@TDK_1997 said:

I think that Zealot and Deadpool win.

What are your reasons?

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#34  Edited By TDK_1997

@majestic99:Zealot can get past BP's vibranium suit with her sword and Deadpool will be dealing with Logan until Zealot is done with BP and will then swing to help Wade with Logan.

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#35  Edited By majestic99

@TDK_1997 said:

@majestic99:Zealot can get past BP's vibranium suit with her sword and Deadpool will be dealing with Logan until Zealot is done with BP and will then swing to help Wade with Logan.

Got it.

I knew DP vs Logan would be a close fight, that's why I put that in there.

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#36  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

Zealots got this 

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#37  Edited By Jorgevy

anti metal? nice, just learned something new today

Does Wade have his HF for this fight?

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@majestic99: She could use the fact that she is multiple times stringer and 1000's of times more experienced to grapple him into breaking him in half. She could also use her skills in magic, because for some reason that was not taken away.

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#39  Edited By majestic99

@Jorgevy said:

anti metal? nice, just learned something new today

Does Wade have his HF for this fight?

Yes.

@MisterWhisper said:

@majestic99: She could use the fact that she is multiple times stringer and 1000's of times more experienced to grapple him into breaking him in half. She could also use her skills in magic, because for some reason that was not taken away.

She's only allowed to use her fighting abilities.

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#41  Edited By Saren

@MisterWhisper said:

She could also use her skills in magic, because for some reason that was not taken away.

It does not need to be taken away. She has not had the ability to use magic for close to 18 years now.

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#42  Edited By Uno_Oscuro

Zealot, nuff said.

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#43  Edited By majestic99

@Uno_Oscuro said:

Zealot, nuff said.

Reasoning. And are you implying she solos?

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#44  Edited By Uno_Oscuro

@majestic99 said:

@Uno_Oscuro said:

Zealot, nuff said.

Reasoning. And are you implying she solos?

Yes, she does. She has taken on Midnighter and put up a fight. Black Panther, Wolverine, and Deadpool combined couldn't do what she accomplished against Midnighter.

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#45  Edited By majestic99

@Uno_Oscuro:

Got it. Thanks for explaining.

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#46  Edited By Uno_Oscuro

@majestic99 said:

@Uno_Oscuro:

Got it. Thanks for explaining.

No problem.

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Fighting Zealot using any forms of bladed weapons would get your killed faster! She's as dangerous as Thanos & Darkseid combined!