Black panther Vs Spider man

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#101  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

@BringnIt said:

@Buckshot: Honestly, the only T'Challa I have read is his crossovers in other books and his more recent Avengers appearances. Other than that, I've seen some scans for him.

I kind of got that impression. You should expand your viewpoint and get to know Black Panther. I admit I'm biased towards him, but at the same time I know I have quite a bit of knowledge of both characters to support my opinion. I doubt reading up on BP will change your mind much, but beyond this conversation, it's worth your time. He's a compelling character and great when handled well.

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@pooty: Well at the end of man without fear he did get into kingpins system and nearly destroyed his resources and kingpin does have the spider-sense jammers (or the diagrams on how to make them I forget which one) so he may have some info on these jammers not to mention black panther did have spider powers during spider-island so should have an expectation and there is a very strong chance he will prep for spider-sense.

@jashro44 said:

Yea he had spider-sense he used it to detect lady bullseye when she attempted an ambush. I don't think its to much of a stretch for him to make spider-sense jammer in amazing spider-man 653 and 654 spider-man and max model made a device which completely removed spider-sense in less then a day. We have also seen black panther make a device to shut off typhoid marys powers and a formula to shut them off as well in less then a day.

Valuable input to the conversation.

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#102  Edited By jashro44

@Buckshot: Thanks.

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#103  Edited By BringnIt

There is no doubt in my mind T'Challa can negate the spider sense. I find it unlikely that in one day's time he can use it against Peter in the manner Stark did. I simply don't think with Peter's drastically improved H2H skills that removing the spider sense grants him an automatic victory. @Buckshot I will do so, it's just a matter of time. I haven't been reading comics all that long, so there's a lot of catching up to do. Any suggestions on a good starting point?

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#104  Edited By NerdsFTW

The Wakandan Warrior.

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#105  Edited By darktiger

@NerdsFTW said:

The Wakandan Warrior.

any reasons why

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#106  Edited By NerdsFTW

@darktiger:Physically superior and better h2h fighter.

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#107  Edited By jashro44

@NerdsFTW said:

@darktiger:Physically superior and better h2h fighter.

There is no way black panther is physically superior to spider-man...

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#108  Edited By NerdsFTW

@jashro44: With the magical herb BP has ingested, yes.

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#109  Edited By jashro44

@NerdsFTW said:

@jashro44: With the magical herb BP has ingested, yes.

No he is not...Show me these feats which prove black panther is stronger then someone who has lifted a bus over his head and faster then someone who is faster then eyes can track.

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#110  Edited By BringnIt

Lol, majestic99 continues to amuse.

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#111  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

@BringnIt said:

There is no doubt in my mind T'Challa can negate the spider sense. I find it unlikely that in one day's time he can use it against Peter in the manner Stark did. I simply don't think with Peter's drastically improved H2H skills that removing the spider sense grants him an automatic victory. @Buckshot I will do so, it's just a matter of time. I haven't been reading comics all that long, so there's a lot of catching up to do. Any suggestions on a good starting point?

Did not see this response. I know I said several times that manipulation of the spider sense to the extent that Stark did it, is unnecessary, as proven by Daken, not to mention any other instances of Parker getting tagged easily when his spider sense has been disrupted. And again, that's still the absolute worse case scenario, if you assume BP can't duplicate Stark's feat on his own or simply appropriate the information needed to do so from Stark or another source (jashro provided info that makes both of those options look even more likely than I had considered them at the start).

Priest's run on BP is what got me into the character so I'd just say start there.

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#112  Edited By darktiger

ok

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T'Challa.

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My two favorite superheroes but T'Challa wins =p

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@NerdsFTW said:

Physically superior and better h2h fighter.

LMAO. Its funny cause its not true.

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#116  Edited By darktiger

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@NerdsFTW said:

Physically superior and better h2h fighter.

LMAO. Its funny cause its not true.

lol

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#117  Edited By darktiger

anyone else

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#118  Edited By NerdsFTW

@darktiger: @venomoushatred1001: Eh, don't feel like debating.

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#119  Edited By darktiger

@NerdsFTW: it's kool

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#120  Edited By NerdsFTW

@darktiger said:

@NerdsFTW: it's kool

Okay.

And is your avatar Flash Thompson as venom?

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#121  Edited By darktiger

@NerdsFTW: yes it is

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anyone else

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#123  Edited By Goku12345

Well Ian not sure about this fight Spidey can lift 10 tons but Black Panther it very smart well Peter is to but compared to Panther not so much but I am leaning towards Spidey

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Black Panther may be able to match Spider-Man in Strength now, he beat up Black Dwarf by himself, although it was off-panel for some reason

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#126  Edited By Nelomaxwell

@dondave: I have to see this. what book?

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#127  Edited By jashro44

@dondave: we don't know what happened. It happened off panel as you said, and black panther stated he thought he broke his hand punching black dwarf. He also states he probably would have lost to black dwarf. For all we know black dwarf was hit with a energy dagger.

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@dondave: I have to see this. what book?

New Avengers #9. The only problem is that their fight is not shown at all. Only their first clash and then Black Dwarf leaving after being defeated.

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^ Badassery right there.

With prep I'm going with BP as well. Random encounter I'd still favor Spidey. Especially SpOc.

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@jashro44 said:

@dondave: we don't know what happened. It happened off panel as you said, and black panther stated he thought he broke his hand punching black dwarf. He also states he probably would have lost to black dwarf. For all we know black dwarf was hit with a energy dagger.

Black Dwarf looked like a bloody mess there and Panther didn't look too bad though he would've beat him.

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@jashro44 said:

@dondave: we don't know what happened. It happened off panel as you said, and black panther stated he thought he broke his hand punching black dwarf. He also states he probably would have lost to black dwarf. For all we know black dwarf was hit with a energy dagger.

Black Dwarf looked like a bloody mess there and Panther didn't look too bad though he would've beat him.

Yea but Black Panther admits he probably wouldn't have won. We honestly don't know how black dwarf ended up like that. Wakanda was being invaded at the time, it is possible he was hit with some other weapon.

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#133  Edited By Nelomaxwell

@jashro44 said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@jashro44 said:

@dondave: we don't know what happened. It happened off panel as you said, and black panther stated he thought he broke his hand punching black dwarf. He also states he probably would have lost to black dwarf. For all we know black dwarf was hit with a energy dagger.

Black Dwarf looked like a bloody mess there and Panther didn't look too bad though he would've beat him.

Yea but Black Panther admits he probably wouldn't have won. We honestly don't know how black dwarf ended up like that. Wakanda was being invaded at the time, it is possible he was hit with some other weapon.

He admits that if he would've continued. From the way he spoke it seemed like it was just the two of them fighting. But you're right there's no way know what happened, but I think we can agree that they engaged each other.

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@nelomaxwell: Yea I agree there definitely was a fight. I just wish we knew the details.

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#135  Edited By Nelomaxwell

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@nelomaxwell: Yea I agree there definitely was a fight. I just wish we knew the details.

I do too, I'd like to see his new powers.

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#137  Edited By CF12793

BP after a long fight.

Giving him one day of prep is overkill. I'm fairly certain that in a random encounter BP would give Pete a hell of a time (despite Spidey's physical superiority).

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Bump. I'd like to get a better feel for what people think about a non prepped fight. I still take Panther btw.

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#139  Edited By wolviex

T Challa wins. The fact is that superior resources and a high IQ, along with superior strategy is hard to outclass. Not to mention imposing physique.

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BP easily

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Peter.

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Black Panther wins

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Black Panther brings the suit that was able to fight Namor or he reduces the charge on one of his planet busting bombs and detonates it over Horizon Labs

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Black Panther.

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Black panther can win with prep

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T'Challa with prep wins

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BP, his fighting skills and cunning intellect will prove too much for spidey

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Black Panther launches an anti matter bomb at Peter.