black panther vs Iron FIst vs Cassandra Cain.

vs.

vs.

-standard gear

-morals on

-death by ko

-start 15 ft. apart.

Iron Fist has personal chi, no Shou Lao chi

Black panther does not have vibranium weapons or shields.

Iron Fist is on a whole other level

Not fair for Mindy lol

Danny

Danny wins, Cass gives him a fight, Hit Girl is way out of her depth.

If cass can manage to dodge every single one of Danny's attacks(probably not happening) she could pull off a win. But Danny should take this handily

Danny. I'm attempted to say it's a stomp, but I guess Cassandra can give him just a little trouble.

@alessandro_souzamarques: The chi gives Danny a huge advantage. They're roughly in the same caliber in physicals (slightly towards Danny IMO) but Cassie is slightly more skilled IMO

@reaverlation: Danny has better physicals, has the Chi advantage like you said, but I also believe he's more skilled.

@alessandro_souzamarques: I see it as "more or less" when involving skill between them just I find the body reading the slight edge over Danny.

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Hit girl should not be here.

Danny vs Cassie in disguise.

Anyway, since the OP didn't take away chi, Danny should stomp.

@reaverlation: I don't really think of body reading as a showing of skills. It's a ability learned from her dad which kinda "adapted" her brain to read someone's body and it helps her at fighting people who are actually more skilled than her, like Batman. The real problem is that since Iron Fist received his upgrade he is possibly a little too fast for Cass to keep up with him, at least while using his Chi to amp his speed. Even without using Chi to amp his speed, I believe he's still faster than her.

@alessandro_souzamarques: What has Iron Fist done to say he is faster than Cassie?

@alessandro_souzamarques: I see it as a showing of skill as she learned it to use in fighting. I'd say Cassie is just as skilled as Bruce if not slightly more, especially since she's a master combatant like Bruce and has actually beaten Shiva, something Bruce was able to stalemate at best.I already agreed to Danny being physically superior but Cassie is as skilled if not more and her body reading makes up for that

@sheenlantern: Punched 100 times in a second for one..

@juiceboks: No chi?

@juiceboks: That isn't with chi amp?

@super_buck: I honestly don't recall..

@juiceboks: If he did, then Danny is probably the fastest street leveler there is using chi.That's displaying speedster speed (and I mean DC speedster so you know it's the good kind xD).Maybe @wyldsong can clear it up

Hit Girl gets punted around like a football.

Danny wins with or without Chi.

LOL Hit-Girl wins, obviously.

Nah, Ironfist FTW

Danny with his powers, could go either way between Cass and Danny otherwise.

He's caught a sniper bullet while poisoned, dodged a bullet point blank after its been fired, and he does have the one micro second feat.

I see. I don't think this means Cassie can't keep up with Iron Fist. (Without Chi)

I don't really think of body reading as a showing of skills. It's a ability learned from her dad which kinda "adapted" her brain to read someone's body and it helps her at fighting people who are actually more skilled than her, like Batman. The real problem is that since Iron Fist received his upgrade he is possibly a little too fast for Cass to keep up with him, at least while using his Chi to amp his speed. Even without using Chi to amp his speed, I believe he's still faster than her.

I think that's the statement (underlined) Sheenlantern was referring to.

@super_buck: @sheenlantern: My mistake I missed that part of the statement. All though it didn't look like he was amping chi in last 2 showings I mentioned all though thats hard to say for certain. I agree he isn't so fast she can't keep up with him though.

@sheenlantern:

Micro-second reaction speed:

Dodges bullets then catches a bullet from a sniper rifle:

Blitzes Black Panther:

And this:

Also, I said he's still faster than her even without amping his speed with Chi. Not that she wouldn't be able to keep up with him without the amp.

@alessandro_souzamarques: How do we know it doesn't take micro-second reaction to dodge bullets?

Danny ftw

IF

@alessandro_souzamarques: Black Panther wasn't blitzed. He had just slipped a sonic device in iron fists ear, Danny started hitting him with the force of a freight train repeatedly, so it would make sense that the punches kept staggering black panther. Kind of hard to fight back when your being hit with enough force to give you a brain aneurysm (which black panther did get after the fight).

Because most street levelers can dodge bullets,but not all of them are explicitly stated (as in,confirmed on panel) to have micro second reaction time. And dodging them after they are fired is another.

Danny's also dodged lightning with ease. He is pretty much Spider-man++ level in his abilities.

Anyway,I say that he can beat Cass. Her body reading should give him slight trouble,but he's just far more skilled than she. IF takes it with moderate difficulty,if not very little.

@twix_right_side: Not far more skilled.They're in the same league and more or less as skilled as each other

Well after gaining the book of the Iron Fist,I am not sure if I can agree since he knows far more techniques and whatnot (I think it said that he has an infinite amount of ways to kill a man). However,due to the nature of her abilities,she will be able to read his moves.

Are you talking about his fight with fat cobra? If so I don't know if that was actual lightning. Also it could be aim dodging.

It said: "Is it that training which gives you the micro-second you need to react." and it showed Iron Fist dodging a barrage of bullets like many other street levellers can do. Its a little iffy for me, unless he was using chi of course. Has he dodged lightning with or without chi?

@super_buck: It doesn't. It would take about one/some/several milliseconds depending on the distance.

If narration says it was a micro-second reaction speed then he must have moved out of the way in the last micro-second possibly.

Chi or no chi, Danny wins. His skill and ability supersedes Hit Girl, and does in my opinion best Cassie.

It seemed like it from the scan. I probably should've said electricity,though. But it's used in a lot of his battles,anyway.

Moon Knight's dodged bullets before,that doesn't exactly mean he has microsecond reaction time. Although that may be your point,but at the same time,it wasn't stated in a MK comic that he has that level of reaction time.

I think it was with chi. Most likely. I think he is only peak human without chi.

@twix_right_side: Fair enough.

I don't see Danny chi amping that much with his morals, he will probably reserve that until he is pushed. Cassandra Cain is around the same skilled, and will sport the best stats until Iron Fist chi amps. The question is, would he chi amp vs two women and would he do it fast enough to avoid getting beat by Cassandra? I think she would be able to dodge most of his attacks due to her body reading, and I don't think iron fist will try and one-shot her either.

Hit-Girl got no reason being here.

The thing I don't understand is. In his fight with Black Panther, he's chi amped. Yet, Black Panther can keep up with him. So that scan is fairly questionable. Unless Black Panther can also react at micro second time.

Mindy has no business being here.

IF takes it with ease.

@super_buck: Well, Black Panther was clearly stated to have enhanced speed before and Iron Fist wasn't himself in this fight, he was being controlled by Black Dragon to take out BP. So I guess he wasn't fighting at his best. I don't think that fight alone should be enough evidence to say his micro-second feat is invalid.

This and IF would win in a good fight.

Since when was Black Panther slow?