Black Canary VS Black Widow

Canary easily

"Canary easily "

"  why are DC combatants regarded as better than those from marvel? "

" @ultimatewarrior123 said:

"  why are DC combatants regarded as better than those from marvel? "

I'm not sure that they are necessarily. "

" Canary would win if she used her powers, if it was a straigt up hand to hand fight, Black Widow would own her. "

" Sorry I don't agree, she maybe one of the best martial artists, but she is not aswell trained in all aspects off combat as The Black Widow. On top of that The Black Widow is more of an acrobat how can you beat the stuffing out of someone you can't catch.  "

H2H just means no weapons.

"@Son_of_Magnus said:

"Canary easily "

care to give a reason. I am just curious but why are DC combatants regarded as better than those from marvel? "

black canary will get hit with deadly strikes if she attempts to use the canary cry cause from what I have seen, she never does it while maintaining a good fighting stance. Although if she manages to get some distance she could finish the fight in no time by screaming. I'll give her the edge

Black Canary

out of the 4 people who voted I am the only one who said Black Widow

Ohmygod .... these 2 characters are like, my favourite characters of all time ... I CAN'T CHOOOOSE.  *cries*

Canary

Even if this was H2H Canary would still beat the crap out of BW

You're wrong. Black Widow's training makes her capable of going toe to toe with Cap, and he's like Batman, and Canary didn't fight anyone like Batman. If Canary uses her scream, Black Widow can use her gadgets and guns, simple as that. Black Widow wins this.

" You're wrong. Black Widow's training makes her capable of going toe to toe with Cap, and he's like Batman, and Canary didn't fight anyone like Batman. If Canary uses her scream, Black Widow can use her gadgets and guns, simple as that. Black Widow wins this. "

I say Natasha cause of experience and Awesomeness.... I know Canary is one of the best in the DCU but Natasha is too cool for school

CANARY!

Bump! 
Canary wins easy. 
=]

 @spidey 15 said:

" @Captain13: Where did you find that list?  Again stop telling me the whole story of DD, i'm aware of what he can do. And by your logic, it's ashamed of losing to DD because BW has more tech and more experience. These were the reasons on why you believe that BW wins. So yes, by your logic, is ashamed of losing to DD, especially in seconds. Also her great agility, didn't save her from the shield that DD threw. I want scans where it shows he was able to beat or keep up with the characters you named. Also that video that you posted, make me take you less seriously than before. Also, did you check the link i gave you. =] "

" @Captain13 said:

" @MrDirector786 said:

" White Canary and Lady Shiva would also own Black Widow. "

I didn't say they couldn't beat her. I'm saying that fighters with no powers can get past Black Canary's cry and beat her. White Canary> or = Black Widow > Black Canary. "

Seriously, where in your scans Black Canary is using her cry? And, you didn't even mention anything impressive for BW, i can't understand why do you believe she is above BC. =] "

 
Different thread, same result. Black Canary. 

  How is it a shame to lose to DD who uses magical ninja tricks? Tricks that Black Canary doesn't have. Yes, BW beats BC bc of more tech and combat experience. Unless Canary lives through 70 years of fights, or picks up some magical ninja abilities, or beats Captain America or Wolverine in a fight , I'm not going to believe she can beat BW. And I really don't know what your scan means. You say she lost in seconds, but I want to know the context. Since they were partners I want to know why they would fight in the first place. Is one of them brainwashed? Has Widow been weakened? What happened before those panels? Why the heck does DD have Cap's shield? How do I know that that scan isn't PIS or else worlds or something? 
  
I don't have a scanner, but in Captain America: Fallen Son, BW fought Bucky to s standstill before he escaped in a flying car. And in Marvel Comics Presents, she fought Wolverine to a standstill. Give me a sec to look through my garage for the issue. 

And I'm sorry if the video made you take me less seriously. I don't see why. I think it showed a good example of peak human agility. Agility BC doesn't have. But you're entitled to your opinion.
Yes, I have read BC's page as well as her comics. 
 

 Those scans and vids prove that Canary doesn't open fights with her cry under normal circumstances and they prove she can be beaten by people with no powers. Her morality keeps her from winning this fight. Without morals she would have won. But they're on, so she loses because she'll be hesitant to use her Canary Cry.

Black Widow

"  Different thread, same result. Black Canary.  "

"  Different thread, same result. Black Canary.  "

" Bump! Canary wins easy. =] "

" @Gremlin From Kremlin said:

" You're wrong. Black Widow's training makes her capable of going toe to toe with Cap, and he's like Batman, and Canary didn't fight anyone like Batman. If Canary uses her scream, Black Widow can use her gadgets and guns, simple as that. Black Widow wins this. "

Widow got pwnd by Bucky. 
 
Canary bested the Twelve Brothers in Silk, Shiva level combatants.  
 
Oracle said she was better than Batman. "

Black widow, she has the hero serum

Black canary takes this easily. The real question is who would win a wet T-shirt contest.

Black canary takes this easily. 

Widow got pwnd by Bucky. 

Black Canary takes this. She has more impressive feats as a whole.

Lol how the hell could this possibly end in a draw?! One of them will get tired or slip up or have to pee, or get hungry, or just not be as good as the other. That draw crap makes no sense in a human vs human fight.

Just to clear things up on what Konton said

Canary "bested" the 12 Brothers but was never able to defeat Rabbit in hand to hand. She also had a mixed group of fighters with skills ranging from the brawling Creote all the way to Richard Dragon. Also the Brothers were rumored to be Shiva level. They were good but nothing to put them on her level.

Oracle never said Canary was better than Batman. After Dinah's Shiva training Babs said she might be. I can say my grandmother is better than Batman. With nothing to show that's plausible though, it's not really worth mentioning.

I don't know anything about comic book Widow and vote Canary out of fanboyism =D

It's hand to hand, since powers are not allowed, I say Natasha takes this. Imo, she's always underestimated by people here. She managed to beat Wonderman (yes, the superpowered 100 toner) and the whole X-Force in CoC II, also in the recent Winter Soldier issue, Natasha was brainwashed and fought Bucky. Bucky mentioned how Natasha would always hold back when they spar and how dangerous she really is. Brainwashed not holding back Natasha also took down the all the SHIELD officers + Nick Fury in the hospital, in which Nick almost died if it wasn't for the SHIELD guy who used himself as a human shield. If you guys want scans, I'll post them later.

@BlastCore9 said:

@TheDarkestNight said:

It's hand to hand, since powers are not allowed, I say Natasha takes this. Imo, she's always underestimated by people here. She managed to beat Wonderman (yes, the superpowered 100 toner) and the whole X-Force in CoC II, also in the recent Winter Soldier issue, Natasha was brainwashed and fought Bucky. Bucky mentioned how Natasha would always hold back when they spar and how dangerous she really is. Brainwashed not holding back Natasha also took down the all the SHIELD officers + Nick Fury in the hospital, in which Nick almost died if it wasn't for the SHIELD guy who used himself as a human shield. If you guys want scans, I'll post them later.

This pretty much kills any credibility this post had.

Also Contest of Champions is non canon. Bucky obviously wouldn't have trouble with Widow because he already beat the living crap out of her.

SLR, I was very busy with school activities. I'm not really sure why you said CoC isn't canon, but for the benefit of the doubt, I'd wait for your explanation. Also, just with their recent encounter in Winter Soldier #9, Bucky was surprised at how Natasha was always holding back when they spar. Although admittedly he was only trying to distract her, he still evidently had a very hard time.

Here's the other scan of Black Widow taking down the SHIELD agents and Nick Fury, in which she should've killed Fury if not for the sacrifice of agent Sitwell.

One attack is needed.

I think Leonardo has this

H2h I think this would be a great fight,,Noone is owning the other in this fight..I've seen both girls hang in there with impressive opponents but I'm going with black widow 6/10

Location? Are they fighting in a pool of baby oil? If not, can they fight in a pool of baby oil??

But in seriousness, I think Canary takes it after a very good fight if it's hand to hand only.

Black Canary.

Black Canary

black canary would put up a fight but you cant forget about the widows bite, dual pistols and other spy gadgets.

if it were hand to hand BC would win but bw aint afraid to fight dirty or kick her when shes down or has her back turned but either way BC would win

Black Canary will beat Black Widow and with her scream is game over.

wait....I've never read an issue featuring either character, but from what I've read on Wiki, Black widow seems pretty good. She's peak human levels in everything, and she's been around for a lot longer than Canary and they've both been trained by the best. I'm not saying who loses or who wins, but can someone show me some scans of Canary beating people who are better then BW hand to hand? What I wanna know is, why are people saying that Black Canary wins easily?

Canary. Last I checked Widow got taken down by Punisher who is not an exemplary h2h combatant.