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But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

He didn't want to fight them and certainly didn't want to seriously hurt them and the planet. Besides he nearly one-shotted Sentry in that fight and was handling the entire Avengers when he took the fight somewhat seriously. It only took every thing Sentry had in a dive bomb attack from space to end the fight.

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@nelomaxwell said:

But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

He didn't want to fight them and certainly didn't want to seriously hurt them and the planet. Besides he nearly one-shotted Sentry in that fight and was handling the entire Avengers when he took the fight somewhat seriously. It only took every thing Sentry had in a dive bomb attack from space to end the fight.

True.

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@green_skaar said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell: Well that Anti-Matter manipulator must be one of the most powerful weapons in existence then.

Anti-matter seems to be very powerful in Marvel. Think of Anti-Man who man-handled the Avengers which included Sentry.

Yeah, but look at how they treat BM. Maybe it's because he's black.

Maybe...but

  • BM's power is generated from anti-matter
  • BM is an expert on anti-matter
  • BM was familar with Anti-Man

So it makes sense BM could succeed where the Avengers failed.

But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

I would think of it this way. There are acids that can burn through metal but not plastics or glass due to certain types of reactions. Metal is much harder than most glasses and plastics yet the acid has different affects on both.

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#104  Edited By Nelomaxwell

@slimj87d said:
@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell: Well that Anti-Matter manipulator must be one of the most powerful weapons in existence then.

Anti-matter seems to be very powerful in Marvel. Think of Anti-Man who man-handled the Avengers which included Sentry.

Yeah, but look at how they treat BM. Maybe it's because he's black.

Maybe...but

  • BM's power is generated from anti-matter
  • BM is an expert on anti-matter
  • BM was familar with Anti-Man

So it makes sense BM could succeed where the Avengers failed.

But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

I would think of it this way. There are acids that can burn through metal but not plastics or glass due to certain types of reactions. Metal is much harder than most glasses and plastics yet the acid has different affects on both.

I wouldn't both are powered by Anti-matter. We're not comparing him fighting the JL vs him fighting the Avengers. We're comparing an unstable Anti-man who has the same power as BM beating the Avengers, while BM didn't.

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#105  Edited By slimj87d

@slimj87d said:
@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell: Well that Anti-Matter manipulator must be one of the most powerful weapons in existence then.

Anti-matter seems to be very powerful in Marvel. Think of Anti-Man who man-handled the Avengers which included Sentry.

Yeah, but look at how they treat BM. Maybe it's because he's black.

Maybe...but

  • BM's power is generated from anti-matter
  • BM is an expert on anti-matter
  • BM was familar with Anti-Man

So it makes sense BM could succeed where the Avengers failed.

But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

I would think of it this way. There are acids that can burn through metal but not plastics or glass due to certain types of reactions. Metal is much harder than most glasses and plastics yet the acid has different affects on both.

I wouldn't both are powered by Anti-matter. We're not comparing him fighting the JL vs him fighting the Avengers. We're comparing an unstable Anti-man who has the same power as BM beating the Avengers, while BM didn't.

But still, everyone in the Avengers just didn't have any method of fighting him right? I think you understand the analogy or where I'm trying to get at.

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@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@slimj87d said:
@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell: Well that Anti-Matter manipulator must be one of the most powerful weapons in existence then.

Anti-matter seems to be very powerful in Marvel. Think of Anti-Man who man-handled the Avengers which included Sentry.

Yeah, but look at how they treat BM. Maybe it's because he's black.

Maybe...but

  • BM's power is generated from anti-matter
  • BM is an expert on anti-matter
  • BM was familar with Anti-Man

So it makes sense BM could succeed where the Avengers failed.

But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

I would think of it this way. There are acids that can burn through metal but not plastics or glass due to certain types of reactions. Metal is much harder than most glasses and plastics yet the acid has different affects on both.

I wouldn't both are powered by Anti-matter. We're not comparing him fighting the JL vs him fighting the Avengers. We're comparing an unstable Anti-man who has the same power as BM beating the Avengers, while BM didn't.

But still, everyone in the Avengers just didn't have any method of fighting him right? I think you understand the analogy or where I'm trying to get at.

Not really, but I'll settle for Green_Skaar's argument.

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@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@slimj87d said:
@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@green_skaar said:

@slimj87d said:

@nelomaxwell: Well that Anti-Matter manipulator must be one of the most powerful weapons in existence then.

Anti-matter seems to be very powerful in Marvel. Think of Anti-Man who man-handled the Avengers which included Sentry.

Yeah, but look at how they treat BM. Maybe it's because he's black.

Maybe...but

  • BM's power is generated from anti-matter
  • BM is an expert on anti-matter
  • BM was familar with Anti-Man

So it makes sense BM could succeed where the Avengers failed.

But if he's so powerful why in the heck couldn't he beat the Sentry and the Avengers by himself like the unstable Anti-Man did?

I would think of it this way. There are acids that can burn through metal but not plastics or glass due to certain types of reactions. Metal is much harder than most glasses and plastics yet the acid has different affects on both.

I wouldn't both are powered by Anti-matter. We're not comparing him fighting the JL vs him fighting the Avengers. We're comparing an unstable Anti-man who has the same power as BM beating the Avengers, while BM didn't.

But still, everyone in the Avengers just didn't have any method of fighting him right? I think you understand the analogy or where I'm trying to get at.

Not really, but I'll settle for Green_Skaar's argument.

Then why don't you explain to me Green_Skaar's argument.

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@slimj87d said:

Then why don't you explain to me Green_Skaar's argument.

What's the question? I can explain my own argument ;)

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#109  Edited By slimj87d

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Then why don't you explain to me Green_Skaar's argument.

What's the question? I can explain my own argument ;)

There's no argument. From my understanding, you're saying that BM is a Anti-Matter specialist and that's why he's able to fight Anti-Man who happens to be another Anti-Matter manipulator. The Avengers had a harder time without BM because they didn't have the "type" of power to fight against him.

To explain the confusion, I made my post before you guys had had a conversation and responded to each other so I didn't understand the context till later.

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@slimj87d said:

@green_skaar said:

@slimj87d said:

Then why don't you explain to me Green_Skaar's argument.

What's the question? I can explain my own argument ;)

There's no argument. From my understanding, you're saying that BM is a Anti-Matter specialist and that's why he's able to fight Anti-Man who happens to be another Anti-Matter manipulator. The Avengers had a harder time without BM because they didn't have the "type" of power to fight against him.

To explain the confusion, I made my post before you guys had had a conversation and responded to each other so I didn't understand the context till later.

Got it. All this talk about BM, going to reread it tonight! So glad he's back in Mighty Avengers, I hope it's not a one and done and gone for years again...

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#111  Edited By oceanmaster21

thanos wins but bb going oll out berydangerous

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#112  Edited By Freefa11

@killemall: It's nice to see Avengers Assemble apparently didn't do any permanent damage to Thanos' standing.

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from seeing this it makes me wonder how powerful Apocalypse is cause he was able to withstand a scream too

Edit: What the hell happened to my post? Did it just get eaten? Ugh, it's been months, but I still really dislike the way the new forums work.

Short version: The way Black Bolt was presented in X-Factor was, IMO, PIS, or the author didn't quite understand who it was he was writing. Black Bolt cutting loose should be a grand event; he's taken down Hulk and Gladiator; in WW Hulk, the BB impostor took out chunks of the moon, in Infinity he took out a city, and in War of Kings he took out Vulcan and helped tear open a giant rift in space-time (I know the Terrigen bomb did a lot of it, but still, BB's voice was presented as truly epic). In X-Factor, he was not shown as anything special. That issue was the first time I had actually seen Black Bolt in action, and in no way did it give me the impression that BB's voice was supposed to be leagues beyond Cyclops' optic blasts, which is should have if it had been trying to do him any justice at all.

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@slimj87d said:

Interesting how Drax's antimatter bomb seems more powerful than Black Bolt's scream.

Or is Thanos amped in infinity?

Going from the bottom, Thanos isnt amped in infinity.

And that anti-matter bomb Drax collected, has never been used before, perhaps it was just that powerful. Perhaps it was because Drax was using it.

Also even in the issue in question, it was made pretty clearly Thanos was still weak, and hadnt recovered to his full powers, although had recovered greatly, so that might have a little to do with it.

I think the point they were trying to hammer across was Thanos cant be killed, and a way to demonstrate it was with Thanos being killed and immediately coming back to life, they needed something to kill Thanos there, i suppose anti-matter charge was as good a plot device as any.

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@freefa11: Yeah I think your right about that. I remember reading how Black Bolts scream was about a nuke yet for the last decade or so It's been said that a Full power scream would blow up planets, rip holes in reality, and the T bomb which was powered by his voice put a tear in the space and time. I think Black Bolt character was new and not expanded on. Still it was a good showing for Apocalypse.

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Black bolt has a chance, he made him bleed before even not using his loudest scream.

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Thanos

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Then, and still, Thanos.

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Black Bolt lulls Thanos with his voice.

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Thanos already won lol

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Black Bolt gets slaughtered

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#121  Edited By Wolverine008

FOR THE INHUMANS!

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#122  Edited By cyborgx

Rei-Kai said:

"King Saturn said:
But Thor's fist have made Thanos flinch before... so why not BB doing his best Dixie Hummingbird impression ?"
Generally, when someone punches you in the face, wouldn't you flinch? Even if it didn't hurt. It's just a natural reaction. Thanos has been cracked with Mjolnir and not been hurt. Black Bolt is far from being in the same league as Thanos."

agreed,Thanos just ouclasses BB,a better fight would be BB vs Sentry or Thor,someone on his level not Thanos

I second that..Thanos>>>>>>Black Bolt

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@cyborgx said:

@matezoide2 said:

Rei-Kai said:

"King Saturn said:
But Thor's fist have made Thanos flinch before... so why not BB doing his best Dixie Hummingbird impression ?"
Generally, when someone punches you in the face, wouldn't you flinch? Even if it didn't hurt. It's just a natural reaction. Thanos has been cracked with Mjolnir and not been hurt. Black Bolt is far from being in the same league as Thanos."

agreed,Thanos just ouclasses BB,a better fight would be BB vs Sentry or Thor,someone on his level not Thanos

I second that..Thanos>>>>>>Black Bolt

NOPE! LOOK ABOVE!

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Bizzy Black Bolt.

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@cyborgx said:

@matezoide2 said:

Rei-Kai said:

"King Saturn said:
But Thor's fist have made Thanos flinch before... so why not BB doing his best Dixie Hummingbird impression ?"
Generally, when someone punches you in the face, wouldn't you flinch? Even if it didn't hurt. It's just a natural reaction. Thanos has been cracked with Mjolnir and not been hurt. Black Bolt is far from being in the same league as Thanos."

agreed,Thanos just ouclasses BB,a better fight would be BB vs Sentry or Thor,someone on his level not Thanos

I second that..Thanos>>>>>>Black Bolt

NOPE! LOOK ABOVE!

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YOU WERE SAYING?......

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@cyborgx: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

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@cyborgx: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

My apology's,but what exactly dose that mean?

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It's official then

Thanos > Black Bolt

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those scans are epic!!

...but the dust on this thread though... lol

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This happened in Infinity am I right. Thanos won.

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@sly_141: Yep, and I guess the Marvel writers completely established it themselves.

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Varry good fight black bolt wins+ more

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Varry good fight black bolt wins+ more

thanos already beat black bolt in infinity

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@cyborgx: On that fight T-bomb depowered BB. If that didn't happen BB might have won the fight.

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: the t-bomb was activated with BB's scream and in no way that it depowered him. heck, thanos was using him as an activator for the illuminati's anti matter bombs. that's what you call depowered ?

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#137 nwname  Moderator

@kyrees: But T-bomb depowered BB. It took away most of his power. At least half of it.

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#138  Edited By kyrees

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: how do you say it depowered him when thanos took a full brunt of BB's scream and then the t-bomb was activated afterwards ? thanos was practically standing in front of that super scream and it barely damaged him.

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@cyborgx: On that fight T-bomb depowered BB. If that didn't happen BB might have won the fight.

What Proof does thee have for these assumptions?

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#140  Edited By notaidiotidoit

What you saw in infinity was a whisper and that cause a good amount of cosmetic damage a scream is a totally different ball park.

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Thanos but bob puts up a fight and inputs some damage into thanos

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Thanos already beat Black Bolt

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Thanos.

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Thanos already beat him. once he got serious he just one shotted him with ease. BB is not at his level

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BB gets rekd.

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Inhuman shall morn the death of their beloved King.

RIP Black Bolt.