Black bolt vs superman

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#1 Posted by Brainiac1.0 (345 posts) - 5 years, 19 days ago - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by Logic Mark III (2122 posts) - 5 years, 19 days ago - Show Bio

IF Blackbolt manages to get a word in edge ways then he could do it. However Supermans speed, laser vision and enhanced senses give him a great advantage, being able to take the Blackbolt out before he can react in time, or taking him out at range.

#3 Posted by Xeron (293 posts) - 5 years, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Pretty sure Supes could survive a full shout, without getting KOed.

#4 Posted by wickedragon (68 posts) - 5 years, 19 days ago - Show Bio

And even if the scream rips him apart, without kryptonite in the vicinity he's up and running again within seconds anyway.

#5 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I think Black Bolt makes Superman's head Explode. While Superman has number of super powers.So does Black Bolt. Everybody likes to talk about Black Bolt quasi-sonic powers but he also has speed,agility,supreme fighting skills,electron manipulation,force field,master blow,and also which no hardly no one ever talks about "neutron power", an "incredible power source, perhaps the greatest in the universe itself".
Post Edited:2008-05-03 02:35:23

#6 Posted by Superboy-Prime 10000 (402 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"I think Black Bolt makes Superman's head Explode.

What is the loudest thing in our Solar System?Believe it or not,it's the sun.If Superman can survive immersion in the sun where Black Bolt loud noise would seems like a dwarf compared to it,I'm pretty sure he can survive Black Bolt's full scream

While Superman has number of super powers.So does Black Bolt. Everybody likes to talk about Black Bolt quasi-sonic powers but he also has speed,agility,supreme fighting skills,electron manipulation,force field,master blow,and also which no hardly no one ever talks about "neutron power", an "incredible power source, perhaps the greatest in the universe itself".
Post Edited:2008-05-03 02:35:23"

If he was really this great,what the heck with losing to World War Hulk?

#7 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Superman. He could blitz Black Bolt and leave it at that. This is just like the Black Adam vs. Black Bolt thread.

#8 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Superboy-Prime 10000 says:

"Ball Buster says:
"I think Black Bolt makes Superman's head Explode.

What is the loudest thing in our Solar System?Believe it or not,it's the sun.If Superman can survive immersion in the sun where Black Bolt loud noise would seems like a dwarf compared to it,I'm pretty sure he can survive Black Bolt's full scream

While Superman has number of super powers.So does Black Bolt. Everybody likes to talk about Black Bolt quasi-sonic powers but he also has speed,agility,supreme fighting skills,electron manipulation,force field,master blow,and also which no hardly no one ever talks about "neutron power", an "incredible power source, perhaps the greatest in the universe itself".
Post Edited:2008-05-03 02:35:23"

If he was really this great,what the heck with losing to World War Hulk?

"

that was a skrull that lost to WWH.

btw, black bolt's voice isnt as powerful as it is because of its volume... That would be someone like banshee.

#9 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"Again Forcefield Static.."

No. The force field isn't always up. Can Black Bolt get it up before getting blitzed by Superman? No. Can he get off the scream before getting blitzed by Superman? No. Therefore he loses.

#10 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Even Superman can be knocked out. Black Bolts voice is enough to atleast do that (though I feel it can do more). He strong enough so that Superman can't just treat him like he was Spiderman or something.

#11 Posted by Superboy-Prime 10000 (402 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

the human Juggernaut says:

"Superboy-Prime 10000 says:
"Ball Buster says:
"I think Black Bolt makes Superman's head Explode.
What is the loudest thing in our Solar System?Believe it or not,it's the sun.If Superman can survive immersion in the sun where Black Bolt loud noise would seems like a dwarf compared to it,I'm pretty sure he can survive Black Bolt's full scream
While Superman has number of super powers.So does Black Bolt. Everybody likes to talk about Black Bolt quasi-sonic powers but he also has speed,agility,supreme fighting skills,electron manipulation,force field,master blow,and also which no hardly no one ever talks about "neutron power", an "incredible power source, perhaps the greatest in the universe itself".
Post Edited:2008-05-03 02:35:23"
If he was really this great,what the heck with losing to World War Hulk? "
that was a skrull that lost to WWH. btw, black bolt's voice isnt as powerful as it is because of its volume... That would be someone like banshee."

I know that Black Bolts voice was supposed to be an electron attack all along,thanks by the way.

#12 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Again Forcefield Static..You dont know jack.
Post Edited:2008-05-09 03:35:37

#13 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"Is superman always speeding into battle?There fore I say he doesnt."

This isn't a comic book written by a comic book writer. So, he can use his speed any way he wants here.

Alpha says:

Even Superman can be knocked out. Black Bolts voice is enough to atleast do that (though I feel it can do more). He strong enough so that Superman can't just treat him like he was Spiderman or something.

Do you think that Black Bolt could get off that scream faster than Superman would blitz him? Before you answer that, think about how fast Superman can move.

#14 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Is superman always speeding into battle?Therefore I say he doesnt.
Post Edited:2008-05-09 03:34:35

#15 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"OOOHHH!Your going by the writers now.Which is it ?The Writers or Your low logic."

I was never going by the writers. You misread my post. Flaming me because you can't argue against me won't get you anywhere.

#16 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Yes. My reason is, what's to stop him from screaming? Even in pain. It's not like Superman placing his hand over Captain Marvel's mouth. Not even Superman can hold back that much power. "

But if he's getting blitzed at a speed he can't react to, then there's no way he would be able to scream at him just in time. It's not possible. Please, I would really hate to have to post Spuerman's speed feats in here.
Post Edited:2008-05-09 03:38:32

#17 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Ball Buster says:
"Is superman always speeding into battle?There fore I say he doesnt."

This isn't a comic book written by a comic book writer. So, he can use his speed any way he wants here.

Alpha says:

Even Superman can be knocked out. Black Bolts voice is enough to atleast do that (though I feel it can do more). He strong enough so that Superman can't just treat him like he was Spiderman or something.

Do you think that Black Bolt could get off that scream faster than Superman would blitz him? Before you answer that, think about how fast Superman can move."

OOOHHH!Your going by the writers now.Which is it ?The Writers or Your low logic.

#18 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"Son! I turn you over like a gas station toilet seat."

Aight. Turn me over like a gas station toilet seat then. I don't mind.

#19 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Ball Buster says:
"Is superman always speeding into battle?There fore I say he doesnt."
This isn't a comic book written by a comic book writer. So, he can use his speed any way he wants here. Alpha says:
Even Superman can be knocked out. Black Bolts voice is enough to atleast do that (though I feel it can do more). He strong enough so that Superman can't just treat him like he was Spiderman or something.
Do you think that Black Bolt could get off that scream faster than Superman would blitz him? Before you answer that, think about how fast Superman can move."

Yes. My reason is, what's to stop him from screaming? Even in pain. It's not like Superman placing his hand over Captain Marvel's mouth. Not even Superman can hold back that much power.

#20 Posted by Gambler (80654 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Didn't Gladiator get hit by Black Bolt's scream? (and not get knocked out?)

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#21 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Yep.

#22 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Didn't Gladiator get hit by Black Bolt's scream? (and not get knocked out?)"

When did this happen? And was his scream at full? He tends to hold back.

#23 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Ball Buster says:
"OOOHHH!Your going by the writers now.Which is it ?The Writers or Your low logic."

I was never going by the writers. You misread my post. Flaming me because you can't argue against me won't get you anywhere."

Son! I turn you over like a gas station toilet seat.

#24 Posted by Gambler (80654 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Gambler says:
"Didn't Gladiator get hit by Black Bolt's scream? (and not get knocked out?)"

When did this happen? And was his scream at full? He tends to hold back. "

I dont know thats why I was asking. I've heard that statement bounced around the Vine for awhile now.

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#25 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"Man,Im not going to clown on you anymore.God Bless and Good night."

That's exactly what I thought.

#26 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

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#27 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"You guys try not to get to personal. I know your both capable of making solid points. Lets focus more on that an less on the insults."

I wasn't gonna retaliate. I was gonna let him say what he wanted to say. Not like I was gonna reply to him anyway...
Post Edited:2008-05-09 03:48:07

#28 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Not to me. I'm one of the biggest Supes fans alive. So you saying that Superman could beat him senseless before he could utter a word? Someone as strong as Black Bolt? He's no push over. I know Superman could beat him in a fight of strength, but it would be just that. I know how fast Superman can be,, but I still feel BB could use his voice. "

Believe it or not, it's absolute. And, yes. I'm saying that. Black Bolt, compared to Superman, is not that strong. He can only increase his strength to a maximum of 60 tons. That's it. Think about how strong Superman is. Black Bolt is not on his level. And, if Black Bolt cannot react to Superman's speed, then how can he win?

#29 Posted by Gambler (80654 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

You guys try not to get to personal. I know your both capable of making solid points. Lets focus more on that an less on the insults.

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#30 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

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#31 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

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#32 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Alpha says:
"Yes. My reason is, what's to stop him from screaming? Even in pain. It's not like Superman placing his hand over Captain Marvel's mouth. Not even Superman can hold back that much power. "
But if he's getting blitzed at a speed he can't react to, then there's no way he would be able to scream at him just in time. It's not possible. Please, I would really hate to have to post Spuerman's speed feats in here.
Post Edited:2008-05-09 03:38:32"

Not to me. I'm one of the biggest Supes fans alive. So you saying that Superman could beat him senseless before he could utter a word? Someone as strong as Black Bolt? He's no push over. I know Superman could beat him in a fight of strength, but it would be just that. I know how fast Superman can be,, but I still feel BB could use his voice.

#33 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

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#34 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ball Buster says:

"Force Field."

It's not always up. And, he can't get it up before he's defeated.

#35 Posted by Ketch (327 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Yes. My reason is, what's to stop him from screaming? Even in pain. It's not like Superman placing his hand over Captain Marvel's mouth. Not even Superman can hold back that much power. "

He has too much self discipline to scream, even in pain. He's trained himself not to.

Gambler says:

"Didn't Gladiator get hit by Black Bolt's scream? (and not get knocked out?)"

It was a whisper, just FYI.

And this is a repeat. The original thread might have some good info in it.

#36 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Ball Buster says:
"Man,Im not going to clown on you anymore.God Bless and Good night."

That's exactly what I thought."

Did I here something.

#37 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Force Field.

#38 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"U haven't given me a reason to think he couldn't use his voice during getting his butt smacked around."

Here's one. Ketch already said it... And, Superman only needs to hit him once... Or blitz him, grab him, and defeat him through BFR....

Ketch says:

He has too much self discipline to scream, even in pain. He's trained himself not to.

Ball Buster says:

Well it depends if the battle is known to happen .

And, this explains absolutely nothing...

#39 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Well it depends if the battle is known to happen .

#40 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Alpha says:
" Not to me. I'm one of the biggest Supes fans alive. So you saying that Superman could beat him senseless before he could utter a word? Someone as strong as Black Bolt? He's no push over. I know Superman could beat him in a fight of strength, but it would be just that. I know how fast Superman can be,, but I still feel BB could use his voice. "
Believe it or not, it's absolute. And, yes. I'm saying that. Black Bolt, compared to Superman, is not that strong. He can only increase his strength to a maximum of 60 tons. That's it. Think about how strong Superman is. Black Bolt is not on his level. And, if Black Bolt cannot react to Superman's speed, then how can he win? "

U haven't given me a reason to think he couldn't use his voice during getting his butt smacked around.

#41 Posted by Gambler (80654 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ketch says:

"It was a whisper, just FYI.

Good lookin out

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#42 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Alpha says:
"U haven't given me a reason to think he couldn't use his voice during getting his butt smacked around."
Here's one. Ketch already said it... And, Superman only needs to hit him once... Or blitz him, grab him, and defeat him through BFR.... Ketch says:
He has too much self discipline to scream, even in pain. He's trained himself not to.
Ball Buster says:
Well it depends if the battle is known to happen .
And, this explains absolutely nothing... "

I don't agree with Ketch. He's a soldier if anything other than a King. If he's losing and his voice is to be used, why wouldn't he let go, even in pain?

#43 Posted by Ball Buster (2042 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

It does.If going to fight someone and you know your enemy.It makes a world deference.

#44 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"I don't agree with Ketch. He's a soldier if anything other than a King. If he's losing and his voice is to be used, why wouldn't he let go, even in pain? "

The man has gone through self-discipline and intense mental training to the point where he doesn't scream in pain, even in his sleep. If this wasn't the case, then he would scream in pain all the time. He would scream in his sleep all the time as well. If he was really angry or upset at one point, he would scream there, too...

#45 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Alpha says:
" I don't agree with Ketch. He's a soldier if anything other than a King. If he's losing and his voice is to be used, why wouldn't he let go, even in pain? "
The man has gone through self-discipline and intense mental training to the point where he doesn't scream in pain, even in his sleep. If this wasn't the case, then he would scream in pain all the time. He would scream in his sleep all the time as well. If he was really angry or upset at one point, he would scream there, too..."

So you saying that he would just allow himself to be beaten. The beating he would take from Supes would be intense because of his speed and strength. He may have trained himself not to do that by accident, by not intentionally.

#46 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Ketch says:

"Alpha says:
" I don't agree with Ketch. He's a soldier if anything other than a King. If he's losing and his voice is to be used, why wouldn't he let go, even in pain? "
When I said "he's trained himself not to" it wasn't that he's trained himself not to scream at all. You said he'd cry out in pain, but he's trained himself not to make any noise unless he consciously decides to. There will be no involuntary grunts or screams if he's hurt as you suggested. He may chose to make noise once he sees he's in trouble, but then the question goes back to, "will the fight go on long enough for BB to decide to scream?" and "will a scream even stop Superman?""

Ok. Now we are dealing with the real question. Can Supes handle his scream? I don't think so. If BB let go without holding anything back, I don't think Superman could withstand it completly. It may not kill him but it would render him unconscious.

#47 Posted by Ketch (327 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"I don't agree with Ketch. He's a soldier if anything other than a King. If he's losing and his voice is to be used, why wouldn't he let go, even in pain? "

When I said "he's trained himself not to" it wasn't that he's trained himself not to scream at all. You said he'd cry out in pain, but he's trained himself not to make any noise unless he consciously decides to. There will be no involuntary grunts or screams if he's hurt as you suggested. He may chose to make noise once he sees he's in trouble, but then the question goes back to, "will the fight go on long enough for BB to decide to scream?" and "will a scream even stop Superman?"

#48 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

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#49 Posted by Alpha (7310 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Alpha says:
"So you saying that he would just allow himself to be beaten. The beating he would take from Supes would be intense because of his speed and strength. He may have trained himself not to do that by accident, by not intentionally. "
It's not that he would allow himself to be beaten. That's just how he is. Saying that he trained himself by accident doesn't make any sense. To train yourself to do something is intentional, no matter what it is. It's not involuntary. Either he's trained himself not to scream in certain situations or he hasn't. And, obviously, he has. It's like training yourself to use the toilet at a young age. Once you reach a certain age, using a toilet will become first nature. You're not gonna pee or take a sh!t in your pants once you've gotten used to using the toilet, are you?"

Either I type incorrectly or you mis-read. I wasn't saying he trained himself by accident. I was saying he may have trained himself not to scream on accident.

#50 Posted by Ketch (327 posts) - 5 years, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Saying that he trained himself by accident doesn't make any sense. "

I don't think you understood his statement. I don't think he understood mine either, but I tried to clarify.

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