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These 2 cosmic titans face off on Earth's moon. They begin 5 miles apart and know who they're facing. This is a fight to the finish. Nova has the full power of the Nova Corps. 
 
Nova believes the Inhumans murdered his fellow Nova corpsmen and Black Bolt believes Nova has killed Medusa. 
 
No morals. 
 
Who wins? 

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#2  Edited By CosmicSpiral

Nova. 

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#3  Edited By reactor

Definitely Nova.

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#4  Edited By RiseofApocalypse

Black Bolt. Already happened in a comic.

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#5  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Didn't Nova fear Black Bolt's power?

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#6  Edited By Fire-brand

no morals and bloodlust? Black Bolt destroys the moon in his rage. he loses, but he goes down in a blaze of AWESOME.

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#7  Edited By reactor
@RiseofApocalypse said:
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Black Bolt. Already happened in a comic.

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Seriously? I must have missed that.

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#8  Edited By Citizen 14

No morals? Bloodlust? BB takes a bite out the moon along with Nova.

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#9  Edited By stevon

Black Bolt yells Nova's skin off, most likely.
 
I think BB's primary power will keep Nova from shoving his fist down his throat like he did with Annihilus.  
 
Edit: Does anyone have Nova's feats with that kind of power? I might actually change my mind. I didn't consider the fact that he has the full power of the Nova corps. with him. 

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#10  Edited By slimj87d

Can't Nova move at speeds faster than sound?
 
And how does Black Bolts power work in space? Dose his powers allow sound in space?

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#11  Edited By crabtree

i think black bolt would yell at him very loud.

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#12  Edited By Ferro Vida
@SlimJ87D said:
" Can't Nova move at speeds faster than sound?   And how does Black Bolts power work in space? Dose his powers allow sound in space? "
His powers are unaffected by a lack of atmosphere.
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#13  Edited By Thor's hammmer
@SlimJ87D: 
 
it doesn't acctually come from noise apparently it's Psionic but no morales he's going to scream his lungs out and kill Nova right at the begining
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#14  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@SlimJ87D said:

"Can't Nova move at speeds faster than sound?   And how does Black Bolts power work in space? Dose his powers allow sound in space? "


Black Bolt's 'scream' isn't sound. It is actually his electron manipulation powers which are connected to the speech center of his brain, so any attempt to use his voice triggers the effect just like how opening his eyes makes cyclops' optic blasts fire.... Though many writers today mistake the 'scream' to be sonic.

   
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#15  Edited By slimj87d

Wow, well then I would have to say Blackbolt unless if Nova went and asked Galactus for a Cosmic upgrade.

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#16  Edited By daak1212

Nova, he can errect a force field in Black bolts vocal chords to stop them from vibrating in order to make the scream.  With that Nova just dominates him physically
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#17  Edited By Fire-brand
@daak1212 said:
" Nova, he can errect a force field in Black bolts vocal chords to stop them from vibrating in order to make the scream.  With that Nova just dominates him physically "
um, it's not about the vocal chords or else black bolt would do that all the time. it's about the actual centers of the brain right?
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#18  Edited By slimj87d

Wait, I just reread it, this is Nova Prime. He's pretty damn strong, I have to read his Nova Prime arc and see his feats.

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#19  Edited By Static Shock
@RiseofApocalypse said:
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Black Bolt. Already happened in a comic.

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Nova was weaker at the time. But, Black Bolt could still win. Just not as easily this time.
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#20  Edited By daak1212
@Fire-brand said:
" @daak1212 said:
" Nova, he can errect a force field in Black bolts vocal chords to stop them from vibrating in order to make the scream.  With that Nova just dominates him physically "
um, it's not about the vocal chords or else black bolt would do that all the time. it's about the actual centers of the brain right? "

No no, thats from him making a unconsious scream.  he went threw tons of meditation in order for him not to talk.  Or was it?  Idk all I know is that if can make a very powerful force field either in the vocal chord or in his mouth then the scream wont work beacuse of no vibration or it will backfire and kill BB ( The force field in his mouth, pressure will always look for a way out and if its not threw the field then out the skull )
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#21  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@Static Shock said:
" @RiseofApocalypse said:
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Black Bolt. Already happened in a comic.

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Nova was weaker at the time. But, Black Bolt could still win. Just not as easily this time."

It was in the 90s. So yea, it wasn't Nova prime.
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#22  Edited By slimj87d
@Static Shock said:
" @RiseofApocalypse said:
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Black Bolt. Already happened in a comic.

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Nova was weaker at the time. But, Black Bolt could still win. Just not as easily this time. "
So you think Blackbolt can beat Nova's strongest incarnation even if Nova came with his A-game?
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#23  Edited By Static Shock
@SlimJ87D:Possibly.
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#24  Edited By czarny_samael666

Nova easily.
His shields can take solar system busting attack, so BB don't have a chance to hurt him, but Nova can easily hurt BB.

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#25  Edited By Fire-brand
@czarny_samael said:
" Nova easily. His shields can take solar system busting attack, so BB don't have a chance to hurt him, but Nova can easily hurt BB. "
when did he tank a solar systembuster attack? scans?
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#26  Edited By czarny_samael666

Galactus rage. 
If You don't read Annihilation, I can put some scans.

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#27  Edited By dane

Nova's mastery of his powers is still extremely poor. He needs the AI in his helmet just to tell him how gravimetric force works, the same power source he has used for over 10 years.
 
Black Bolt didn't outmuscle Nova when he beat him. He used his superior skill to turn Nova's own power against him. There is no reason why that would be different now that Richard has more raw power.
 

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#28  Edited By czarny_samael666

Because now he has Worldmind and better energy control.

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#29  Edited By spiderbuck1

Nova is much more adept at using his powers after the Annihilation war, and is much more powerful than when they first fought.   
 
Nova has this.

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#30  Edited By Wise Son

BB, his quasi energy screams are just too much. Made Galactus get his butt in gear and move out. If he can call a cosmic being from the other side of the universe/galaxy and he comes I say he's pretty damn powerful. BB has some amazing feats. Anybody who can show me what Nova has done?

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#31  Edited By HellionVulcan

Nova better use his speed or else hes particles but sad it can't happen any more unless both get revived ,well nova probably never died just trapped .Outta 10 fight i give it to black bolt 7/10 .

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#32  Edited By czarny_samael666

 @Wise Son said:

" BB, his quasi energy screams are just too much. Made Galactus get his butt in gear and move out. If he can call a cosmic being from the other side of the universe/galaxy and he comes I say he's pretty damn powerful. BB has some amazing feats. Anybody who can show me what Nova has done? "

When did it happen?
 
I personally belive that we current abilities/experience, Nova without full Nova Force will defeat BB thanks to his speed (the point is that not only he is doing this, but rookies too):

Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p1
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p1


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p2
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p2


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p3
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p3


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p4
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p4


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p5
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p5


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p6
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p6


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p7
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p7


Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p8
Nova and his rookies speedblitzing Serpent Society in 1.8 s p8

He speeblitzed his enemies in less than 2 seconds.
Plus using his speed against Drax:

Nova using great speed against Drax
Nova using great speed against Drax
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#33  Edited By HellionVulcan

Couldn't Nova do what Ronin the accuser did ? when black bolts about to scream put a shield around him so he gets the kick back from his powers ? .

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#34  Edited By SuperTide

Black Bolt

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#35  Edited By butcher_pete

Can anyone shed some more light on this? Im curious, and I dont really know much about the characters.

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#36  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

Rich has the potential to blitz BB before he has a chance to open his lips.

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#37  Edited By emperorznb

@Butcher_Pete said:

Can anyone shed some more light on this? Im curious, and I dont really know much about the characters.

Well Black Bolt's power comes from his voice which is really the vibration of his voice box which also causes extreme vibrations in surrounding electrons. Black Bolt's mere whisper could easily level a city. Now imagine how powerful he could be if he shouted on the top of his lungs. Also, his power increases when he is enraged. Just imagine how powerful he can become when morals are off.

Richard Rider with the Nova Force can do multitude of things like amping his strength to class 100, traversing light speed and beyond, superhuman status, extreme levels of durability, self-sustenance, and could create various effects with his Nova Force like powerful blasts, make portals, and create gravimetric pulses. His blast power was so great that it lobotomized Ego with a single shot. He also defeated the Sphinx with two Ka stones.

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#38  Edited By Rasarima
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Black bolt,after the Vulcan battle....he showed to be just to damn powerfull

if you know Vulcan´s powers, you know what he defeat means

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#39  Edited By batkevin74

I'm gonna say Black Bolt and below is why

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#40  Edited By TheGoldenOne
Nova.
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#41  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Rasarima :
@batkevin74 :
 
 
@czarny_samael666 said:
Nova easily. His shields can take solar system busting attack, so BB don't have a chance to hurt him, but Nova can easily hurt BB.
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#42  Edited By dernman

@czarny_samael666: Don't cut BB short. Some of his posts can be annoying as hell. Nova just might give up in frustration. ooooooh You're talking about Black Bolt. :p

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#43  Edited By Rasarima

So @czarny_samael666: Can Nova Prime win against Vulcan?

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#44  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Rasarima said:

So @czarny_samael666: Can Nova Prime win against Vulcan?

I don't see why not. Nova Primewas powerfull enough to fight with Ego and Sphinx, so why not against Vulcan?
 
Besides, I put Annihilus with CR above Vulcan and Nova Prime won with him. Nova with full Nova Force was able to knock off whole Revengers (Canncerverse Avengers) team with one energy attack.
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#45  Edited By Rasarima

@czarny_samael666: But BB can knock off the avengers with one scream also. and he is the power souce of all ihumans...

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#46  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Rasarima said:

@czarny_samael666: But BB can knock off the avengers with one scream also. and he is the power souce of all ihumans...

Which Avengers? And it doesn't matter if they (and no one besides Thor's Mjolnir and maybe Quasar's shields can do it) can't take Galactus Rage and survive. 
Nova did it and I don't see how BB's attack could be more dangerous than that.
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#47  Edited By pooty

@Rasarima: Black Bolt is the most powerful inhuman but not the source of their power. Their power comes from the Terrigan Crystals.

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#48  Edited By czarny_samael666
@pooty said:

@Rasarima: Black Bolt is the most powerful inhuman but not the source of their power. Their power comes from the Terrigan Crystals.

I think that he was thinking about their palace, which was flying thanks to BB's powers. Inhumans Sentries are also powered by BB's voice.
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#49  Edited By jeanroygrant

Nova stomps

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#50  Edited By kajitatsu

People should stop under-estimating Nova Prime, he's a humorous badass.