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#1 Posted by kintarogre (101 posts) - - Show Bio

who would win

#2 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto

#3 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

It's been done. Magneto wins.

#4 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"It's been done. Magneto wins."
#5 Posted by Urban Reaper (79 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto takes that fork on Black Bolt's head and sticks it where the sun don't shine!

#6 Posted by IcePrince_X (4865 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto but it will be a hell of a fight.

#7 Posted by Arkaine (356 posts) - - Show Bio

Mags

#8 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto wins this one, sorry black bolt.

#9 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto would take Black Bolt out

#10 Posted by DragonGateAcer (5400 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto

#11 Posted by Ball Buster (2041 posts) - - Show Bio

black bolt wins.he's bi#$%^-slap mags in the comics already.

#12 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto has deflected the blasts of two tactical nukes (at once), so for BB to get through his shielding, he would have to be willing to take a chunk out of the planet. While he's deciding that, Magneto (with his superior reaction time) has multiple attacks he can use, including direct assaults against BB's body, such as manipulating the iron in his blood or ripping him in half such as he did the two member of the Neo in Eve of destruction.

And that's leaving aside that Magneto the fact that Magneto just started playing around with space-time by creating traversable wormholes.

#13 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Black Bolt power prove too much for even Magneto. His mereest whisper can tear down mountains and all. The n there is his strength. Magento is one of the few that could battle him an have a chance but I will go for Black Bolt for the win.

#14 Posted by kintarogre (101 posts) - - Show Bio

is this a good match.

#15 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

kintarogre says:

"is this a good match."

I think so. Its different.

#16 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio

How does the detonation of several nuclear weapons compare to Black Bolt's most powerful attacks? I am assuming that Black Bolt's screams are his most powerful attacks?

#17 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto, really? I figured Black Bolt would take this one. Since it's already bumped would anyone care to explain why Magneto wins?

#18 Posted by bakaboy (5 posts) - - Show Bio

If blackbolt lets go of his restraint and finally yells, magneto will be ripped apart

#19 Posted by OhTru (1556 posts) - - Show Bio
@bakaboy said:
" If blackbolt lets go of his restraint and finally yells, magneto will be ripped apart "
agreed
#20 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@OhTru: What if Black Bolt burps?
 
Anyway, hasn't Magneto withstood several nuclear detonations all at once?
#21 Posted by yodagod (2263 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon:
Blackbolt's power workes by channelling electrons, which Magneto has direct control over.  Mags can shut down his power and tear him apart.  Also, Blackbolt's most dangerous ability, his scream, is soundwaves which also falls under Magneto's purvue as oart of the elecromagnetic spectrum.  Magneto's control of the electromagnetic spectrum allows a great deal more than moving metal.  It includes infrared light, ultraviolet light, visible light, soundwaves, microwaves, gamma radiation, subatomic manipulation, graviton manipulation, the applications are practically endless.
#22 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@yodagod: Look at this, if you want.  It shows how people underrate Magneto a great deal:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSdd8Kz32BE
 
From 0:32 on to the end.
#23 Posted by gobstakid777 (1789 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto

#24 Posted by drkhwk2001 (4417 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto
#25 Edited by Stormcell (1065 posts) - - Show Bio
@yodagod said:

"@TheMaskedEidolon: Blackbolt's power workes by channelling electrons, which Magneto has direct control over.  Mags can shut down his power and tear him apart.  Also, Blackbolt's most dangerous ability, his scream, is soundwaves which also falls under Magneto's purvue as oart of the elecromagnetic spectrum.  Magneto's control of the electromagnetic spectrum allows a great deal more than moving metal.  It includes infrared light, ultraviolet light, visible light, soundwaves, microwaves, gamma radiation, subatomic manipulation, graviton manipulation, the applications are practically endless. "


Wow. This is just incredible to me. There is no way Magneto has a chance in this fight. Blackbolt is far more powerful than Magneto and can do far more than just channel electrons. Blackbolt can shape electrons within atoms hence he once took out an entire army by turning all of the men, weapons and vehicles into stone via transmutation. I did not bring this up in the "Sersi vs. Magneto" thread, but Blackbolt's control over electrons should render Magneto powerless. Let me state this to be clear: anyone with greater control over electrons than Magneto can EASILY beat him as they would be able to disrupt any of his use of power. They can totally nullify his abilities. Blackbolt's control over electrons far exceeds Magneto's. Magneto is not turning anybody into a stone statue. Not only that, but Magneto cannot control sound waves directly. While I have seen him use his magnetic powers to somehow redirect soundwaves, (this is totally ridiculous, by the way, as I don't see how he should be able to affect sound like this) he does not control them directly. Even if he could, Blackbolt's voice would produce far more power than what Magneto would be able to handle/control. This is a massacre in Blackbolt's favor. I hope that Magneto and Blackbolt never fight in canon as I know that Blackbolt would be devalued to either give Magneto the victory or to make the fight a close one if BB wins.   
 
People need to stop saying, "Magneto can control the EM spectrum" in fight threads. He doesn't have any real feats for most of the energies in the EM spectrum and certainly no feats that would help him against a powerful opponent. His primary power is magnetism.
 
I know that I come across very critical of Magneto on these boards, but the fact is, he should not be pitted against many of the characters he matched up against here. Marvel is no help as they frequently have Magneto fight people higher than his powerclass by noticeably devaluing the stronger character in order for him to win. These other characters have feats well above Magneto's in other stories and they have powers that can either cancel out or nullify his powers or simply overwhelm him. Magneto lost credibility to me years ago when I began noticing this trend of how everybody's power level who's a threat to him is adjusted downward whenever he shows up on the scene.
#26 Posted by mattbryce2000 (1159 posts) - - Show Bio
@yodagod said:
"@TheMaskedEidolon: Blackbolt's power workes by channelling electrons, which Magneto has direct control over.  Mags can shut down his power and tear him apart.  Also, Blackbolt's most dangerous ability, his scream, is soundwaves which also falls under Magneto's purvue as oart of the elecromagnetic spectrum.  Magneto's control of the electromagnetic spectrum allows a great deal more than moving metal.  It includes infrared light, ultraviolet light, visible light, soundwaves, microwaves, gamma radiation, subatomic manipulation, graviton manipulation, the applications are practically endless. "

i must have missed the change in the laws of physics, i didn't know they made sound wave a part of the EM spec. i always thought they were vibrations in the air. look at a copy of the EM spectrum and tell me where you see sound waves, k?
#27 Posted by mattbryce2000 (1159 posts) - - Show Bio
@Stormcell:
well put
#28 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@Stormcell said:

" @yodagod said:

"@TheMaskedEidolon: Blackbolt's power workes by channelling electrons, which Magneto has direct control over.  Mags can shut down his power and tear him apart.  Also, Blackbolt's most dangerous ability, his scream, is soundwaves which also falls under Magneto's purvue as oart of the elecromagnetic spectrum.  Magneto's control of the electromagnetic spectrum allows a great deal more than moving metal.  It includes infrared light, ultraviolet light, visible light, soundwaves, microwaves, gamma radiation, subatomic manipulation, graviton manipulation, the applications are practically endless. "

Wow. This is just incredible to me. There is no way Magneto has a chance in this fight. Blackbolt is far more powerful than Magneto and can do far more than just channel electrons. Blackbolt can shape electrons within atoms hence he once took out an entire army by turning all of the men, weapons and vehicles into stone via transmutation. I did not bring this up in the "Sersi vs. Magneto" thread, but Blackbolt's control over electrons should render Magneto powerless. Let me state this to be clear: anyone with greater control over electrons than Magneto can EASILY beat him as they would be able to disrupt any of his use of power. They can totally nullify his abilities. Blackbolt's control over electrons far exceeds Magneto's. Magneto is not turning anybody into a stone statue. Not only that, but Magneto cannot control sound waves directly. While I have seen him use his magnetic powers to somehow redirect soundwaves, (this is totally ridiculous, by the way, as I don't see how he should be able to affect sound like this) he does not control them directly. Even if he could, Blackbolt's voice would produce far more power than what Magneto would be able to handle/control. This is a massacre in Blackbolt's favor. I hope that Magneto and Blackbolt never fight in canon as I know that Blackbolt would be devalued to either give Magneto the victory or to make the fight a close one if BB wins.    People need to stop saying, "Magneto can control the EM spectrum" in fight threads. He doesn't have any real feats for most of the energies in the EM spectrum and certainly no feats that would help him against a powerful opponent. His primary power is magnetism. I know that I come across very critical of Magneto on these boards, but the fact is, he should not be pitted against many of the characters he matched up against here. Marvel is no help as they frequently have Magneto fight people higher than his powerclass by noticeably devaluing the stronger character in order for him to win. These other characters have feats well above Magneto's in other stories and they have powers that can either cancel out or nullify his powers or simply overwhelm him. Magneto lost credibility to me years ago when I began noticing this trend of how everybody's power level who's a threat to him is adjusted downward whenever he shows up on the scene. "

Magneto does have feats to prove that he has control of the most of the EM spectrum and others:
 
1.  Manipulating heat (Uncanny X-Men #104)
 
2.  Manipulating light (Vision and Scarlet Witch miniseries Vol.1 #4, Excalibur Vol. 3 # 4)
 
3.  Deflecting the gamma rays & x-rays in nuclear radiation (X-Men Vol. 2 #1, X-Men Vol. 2 #86)
 
4.  Manipulating the entire planetary EM sphere (Uncanny X-Men #150, X-Men Vol. 2 #86)
 
5.  Manipulating other planetary EM spheres (Avengers # 47, Secret Wars I)
 
6. Generating traversable wormholes (Excalibur Vol. 3 #7/8, Avengers Disassembled)
 
7.  Reflecting Banshee's sonic scream back at him by creating harmonics in surrounding metal (Uncanny X-Men #112)
 
8. Manipulating Gravity (New Mutants #35)
 
Magneto wins because he has a faster reaction time.
#29 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio

Black bolt wins, jesus you people overrate Magneto.  
There is no way hes going to manipulate electrons or sound wave on Black Bolts scale, I mean do you guys even listen to yourselves?

#30 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: 
 
1. Magneto has a faster reaction time. Hence, the advantage.
#31 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:
Unless he rips out BB's lungs I don't think that matters. 
#32 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: Magneto can just do that. Morals have not been specified in the OP.
#33 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
His lungs are not made of metal, and that wouldn't be his first move.
#34 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: Why wouldn't it be his first move? Morals are not specified here.  Also, it does not matter is his lungs are not made out of metal.
 
Here's why:
  Manipulating non-metallic objects, such wood, stone, weapons grade ceramics, or plastics. (Classic X-Men #12, Uncanny X-Men #112, New Mutants Vol. 1 #40, Uncanny X-Men #275, X-Men Vol. 2 #2, Excalibur Vol. 3 #14)

Manipulating organic objects like people: (Uncanny X-Men #1, Uncanny X-Men #112, Uncanny X-Men #200, Magneto: Dark Seduction #4)

~ Disrupting a person's nervous system (Uncanny X-Men #304, X-Men Vol. 2 #72)

Ripping people in half: (X-Men Vol. 2 #110)

Manipulating the iron in the blood (X-Force #25)
 
 

Manipulating matter on a subatomic scale. (X-Men Vol. 2 #87, Uncanny X-Men #212, Classic X-Men #19)


 
#35 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
Who enters a battle and immediately rips someones lungs out? lol 
 Magneto can't do any of that stuff with the speed or power that he performs feats of Magnetism with.
#36 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: LOL. Well, a blood lusted one.  
 
 "Magneto can't do any of that stuff with the speed or power that he performs feats of Magnetism with."
 
Why not?
#37 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
Hes never shown the ability to, and his bio entry says specifically that though he can access the whole spectrum and such anything other than magnetism is a lot harder, and puts a bigger strain on his body. 
#38 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: Only a strain since he just began to learn about it. 
#39 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
Still, its a limitation he currently has. 
#40 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: He did it, so he can do it again. 
#41 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
He ripped a dudes lungs out? lol 
#42 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: LOL.  That would be Mortal Kombat Magneto. Brutality.
#43 Posted by yodagod (2263 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon said:
" @Edamame:  Who enters a battle and immediately rips someones lungs out? lol  Magneto can't do any of that stuff with the speed or power that he performs feats of Magnetism with. "

Who enters a battle and immediately rips someone's lungs out?  Magneto does.  It doesn't require metal either, not even iron in the blood.  It's called diamagnetism and is all a part of his basic powerset.  He can manipulate the electrons within the atoms to control anything.  He does not need metal.  He does this as his first move in the battle and he does it instantly...with a "fraction of a fraction" of his power.  And each of the people he tears apart are teambuster level characters.   Seriously dude...why all the Magneto hate?  He is a whole lot more than tossing cars around and stopping bullets.  With the exception of Doom and cosmic threats like Thanos, he is the single most powerful and dangerous villain in Marvel.  He has handled entire teams made up of Human Torch, Invisible Woman, She Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Sersi, Photon, Iron Man, Storm, Phoenix., etc..., he was instrumental in the conclusion of both Secret Wars, the entire world's collective leaders thought it would be safer to give him his own country a couple times, he has killed millions of people while the collected world's heroes could do nothing, he was banished to another galaxy and was able to return under his own power, and he hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential.
 
#44 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@yodagod: LOL. I agree. It is time that people take Magneto more seriously.  However, I have never seen Magneto manipulate Celestial Technology. 
#45 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
Celestial Tech is made from stone. They say this in Eternals comics. 
 
@yodagod:  
He's written up and down way too often to be taken so seriously. Everyone on this website seems to ignore his low showings and only talk about his high showings and his potential. You give him the same treatment you harass Storm fans for giving Storm. He has tons of potential, as does Storm but everyone seems fine making stuff up about him just because he ripped two people apart. 
#46 Posted by Edamame (28375 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon: Well, a lot of characters have been written to go up and down too much. It is just a fact that is annoying to bear, but it is just how it is. Battles are technically not realistic, in the comics.
 
Apocalypse's Celestial Tech. is made from stone?
#47 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame:  
I know but its laughable at how people cling to Magneto's high showings while simultaneously mocking me and others for arguing points from Storms high showings and her potential. Both characters are limitless power sets and potential to become aspects of reality, yet this website respects one a lot more than the other. 
 
Idk anything about Apoc's tech other than it lets him shapeshift and healing factor. If its celestial tech then it should be made of stone.
#48 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon said:
" @Edamame:  
Celestial Tech is made from stone. They say this in Eternals comics. 
 
@yodagod:  He's written up and down way too often to be taken so seriously. Everyone on this website seems to ignore his low showings and only talk about his high showings and his potential. You give him the same treatment you harass Storm fans for giving Storm. He has tons of potential, as does Storm but everyone seems fine making stuff up about him just because he ripped two people apart.  "
There is a difference. We talk about feats that Magneto actually does and Storm fanboys talk about feats that Storm can possibly do or feats she cannot do but the fans say she can anyway. 
#49 Posted by TheMaskedEidolon (855 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik:  
The fact that she isn't a villain and has made an oath to never take a life limits what she has actually done considerably. She is a purely offensive character with a moral limit on what her offense can do. This is not something we should be faulting her for. 
#50 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMaskedEidolon said:
" @erik:  The fact that she isn't a villain and has made an oath to never take a life limits what she has actually done considerably. She is a purely offensive character with a moral limit on what her offense can do. This is not something we should be faulting her for.  "
We have seen her upper limits against foes that she has no such moral obligation for such as immortals. It still does not change the fact that most Storm fans exaggerate and lie about her to try and win battles.