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Black Bolt & Crystal vs Magneto & Storm
If Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
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Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
@weaponmaster said:This....If Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@YoungGunna said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
@weaponmaster said:Agree@YoungGunna said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
Agreed on both counts. That would Give Storm time so take BB and Crystal out if she attacked right after the initial scream.
@weaponmaster said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.
@YoungGunna said:I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
@Wise Son said:That is based soley on whether or not Mags can sustain his forcefield while BB goes to town on it. BB has beaten/held his own with the Hulk, Doom (which stolen Watcher power), Graviton (as a black hole), Sphinx, Gladiator, Ikarus, Namor, Apocalypse (granted non canon) and scared off a few cosmic entities. Thinking Magneto will be just another footnote.Agreed on both counts. That would Give Storm time so take BB and Crystal out if she attacked right after the initial scream.
@weaponmaster said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.
@YoungGunna said:I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
If Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
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She can't. His energy manipulation is still greater than Storm's and should be able to take her that way if they fought.
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Not sure if Storm could take out BB
I am not certain either. I think she has a slight chance if she barrages BB with 300 mph, sub-zero, Tornadoes while simultaneously attacking him with hundreds of lightning strikes. If BB can withstand an onslaught such as that then it is indeed over For team 2 unless she goes Phoenix-level Storm right away, in which case she stands a better chance.
I am not a Storm Fan-man per se. I think she is a cool character though.
@weaponmaster said:That is based soley on whether or not Mags can sustain his forcefield while BB goes to town on it. BB has beaten/held his own with the Hulk, Doom (which stolen Watcher power), Graviton (as a black hole), Sphinx, Gladiator, Ikarus, Namor, Apocalypse (granted non canon) and scared off a few cosmic entities. Thinking Magneto will be just another footnote.
@Wise Son said:Agreed on both counts. That would Give Storm time so take BB and Crystal out if she attacked right after the initial scream.
@weaponmaster said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.
@YoungGunna said:I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
Not to mention what he did to Vulcan.
I would tend to agree that Magneto would likely be defeated quickly if BB used a full powered scream as an opening salvo.
@Wise Son said:and we cant forget about BBs speed
@weaponmaster said:That is based soley on whether or not Mags can sustain his forcefield while BB goes to town on it. BB has beaten/held his own with the Hulk, Doom (which stolen Watcher power), Graviton (as a black hole), Sphinx, Gladiator, Ikarus, Namor, Apocalypse (granted non canon) and scared off a few cosmic entities. Thinking Magneto will be just another footnote.
@Wise Son said:Agreed on both counts. That would Give Storm time so take BB and Crystal out if she attacked right after the initial scream.
@weaponmaster said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.
@YoungGunna said:I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
Not to mention what he did to Vulcan.
I would tend to agree that Magneto would likely be defeated quickly if BB used a full powered scream as an opening salvo.
@weaponmaster
said:and we cant forget about BBs speed
@Wise Son
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@weaponmaster
said:That is based soley on whether or not Mags can sustain his forcefield while BB goes to town on it. BB has beaten/held his own with the Hulk, Doom (which stolen Watcher power), Graviton (as a black hole), Sphinx, Gladiator, Ikarus, Namor, Apocalypse (granted non canon) and scared off a few cosmic entities. Thinking Magneto will be just another footnote.@Wise Son
said:Agreed on both counts. That would Give Storm time so take BB and Crystal out if she attacked right after the initial scream.
@weaponmaster
said:I think that Mag MIGHT could weather one shout but it would weaken him way too much for him to be a factor in the fight. He'd die the next time BB opened his mouth.@YoungGunna
said:I hear you. But I'm thinking that if Magnetos Force Field can't take a full power shout, then who manipulates energy the best will be a moot point.
@weaponmaster
said:Maybe but who manipulates energy better out of the twoIf Magnetos Force Field can take a BB shout then Team 2 wins, if not team 1 wins.
Not to mention what he did to Vulcan.
I would tend to agree that Magneto would likely be defeated quickly if BB used a full powered scream as an opening salvo.
This is true but Magneto and Storm have both been shown to have exceptionally fast reaction times a well. You are correct that BB has physical speed but everyone heres non physical powers are pretty much activated at the speed of thought which is the same speed for everyone more or less.
I would still Give the fight to team one though, with team 2 having a slight chance to pull off a victory maybe 1/10 times.
@weaponmaster: That too.
I'm thinking with Team 1 it's BB or bust. Without him it's a stomp for Team 2. BB has to go all out in the opening moments or they may be in trouble.
I thought of one scenario where Team 2 may win. If she (Storm) can create a vortex of wind that suspends the ability to breath or speak for BB. It takes out Team 1's major weapon and cripples BB. Magneto could try to rip the blood from their bodies while they try to recover. Unless Crystal can counteract Storm's vortex long enough for BB to blast them both to hell.
I agree that BB is the key and will likely garner the win for team 1.
I don't think that BB's shout needs air. It is, as i understand it, a massive release of electrons, but a vortex may keep him from being able to aim properly to hit them with a Unidirectional or come-shaped scream.
I would like to see how the spider-man/venom/thor creature fight ended as well.
@Wise Son said:Yeah, that's where my theory falls flat. His powers have been described as quasi-sonic energy. He was capable of knocking out Crystal on the far side of the moon with the faintest hint of oxygen in it. Then again he was capable of getting Galactus' attention through space so maybe oxygen isn't needed. I'm a fan of BB but I'm far from an expert. I think you're right though. It may just distort it's direction quite a bit.
@weaponmaster: That too.I'm thinking with Team 1 it's BB or bust. Without him it's a stomp for Team 2. BB has to go all out in the opening moments or they may be in trouble.I thought of one scenario where Team 2 may win. If she (Storm) can create a vortex of wind that suspends the ability to breath or speak for BB. It takes out Team 1's major weapon and cripples BB. Magneto could try to rip the blood from their bodies while they try to recover. Unless Crystal can counteract Storm's vortex long enough for BB to blast them both to hell.
I agree that BB is the key and will likely garner the win for team 1.
I don't think that BB's shout needs air. It is, as i understand it, a massive release of ionic energy. but a vortex may keep him from being able to aim properly to hit them with a Unidirectional or come-shaped scream.
I would like to see how the spider-man/venom/thor creature fight ended as well.
Hasn't BB got some sort of Forcefield?I believe he can generate some kind of protective shield but I could be wrong tho
BB kills either of them, not only because of the scream but also beacuse he can mannipulate matter and energy.
Not sure about Mr Bolt soloing but his team can pull a win here.if that second statement is true BBs scream would annihilate team 2Magnetos shield almost buckled to Cyclops' blasts. I highly doubt it can take Black Bolts voice.
@weaponmaster said:Yeah, that's where my theory falls flat. His powers have been described as quasi-sonic energy. He was capable of knocking out Crystal on the far side of the moon with the faintest hint of oxygen in it. Then again he was capable of getting Galactus' attention through space so maybe oxygen isn't needed. I'm a fan of BB but I'm far from an expert. I think you're right though. It may just distort it's direction quite a bit.
@Wise Son said:
@weaponmaster: That too.I'm thinking with Team 1 it's BB or bust. Without him it's a stomp for Team 2. BB has to go all out in the opening moments or they may be in trouble.I thought of one scenario where Team 2 may win. If she (Storm) can create a vortex of wind that suspends the ability to breath or speak for BB. It takes out Team 1's major weapon and cripples BB. Magneto could try to rip the blood from their bodies while they try to recover. Unless Crystal can counteract Storm's vortex long enough for BB to blast them both to hell.
I agree that BB is the key and will likely garner the win for team 1.
I don't think that BB's shout needs air. It is, as i understand it, a massive release of ionic energy. but a vortex may keep him from being able to aim properly to hit them with a Unidirectional or come-shaped scream.
I would like to see how the spider-man/venom/thor creature fight ended as well.
His shout is likely a masssive emission of electrons. "shouting" through space pretty much proves this to be the case.
My point wasn't that it distorts its direction, my point was that spiining arouund in a vortex would keep a uni-directional shout or a cone shaped shout from hitting them as he would not be able to aim properly.
@Nefarious: How? Other then the way I described? Magneto couldn't handle BB by himself.
I believe a scenario I described prior to yours would give them a slight probability of success as well:
" @weaponmaster said: I am not certain either. I think she has a slight chance if she barrages BB with 300 mph, sub-zero, Tornadoes while simultaneously attacking him with hundreds of lightning strikes. If BB can withstand an onslaught such as that then it is indeed over For team 2 unless she goes Phoenix-level Storm right away, in which case she stands a better chance."
Since Magneto manipulates electro-magnetism, as well as other magnetically charged energies, wouldn't he be able to manipulate the electrons generated by Black Bolt?
OTHERWISE...
Crystal is a non-factor, she wouldn't be needed in the fight as Black Bolt unleashes a scream and tears Magneto and Storm away.
Since Magneto manipulates electro-magnetism, as well as other magnetically charged energies, wouldn't he be able to manipulate the electrons generated by Black Bolt?Yea but so does Black Bolt and maybe to a greater degree
@Dark Cloud™ said:Pretty sure BB's energy and matter manipulation is to a greater degree.Since Magneto manipulates electro-magnetism, as well as other magnetically charged energies, wouldn't he be able to manipulate the electrons generated by Black Bolt?Yea but so does Black Bolt and maybe to a greater degree
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