#1 Posted by Spartan101 (2355 posts) - - Show Bio

No morals,no bfr,gladiator 100% confident,fight nyc 1 mile apart.

,,,,,,vs,,,,

#2 Posted by Greendevil (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

wow close fight. This could probably go either way: But imo Quasar gives the Marvel team the edge.

Team 2 ftw!

#3 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#4 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2 easy

#5 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan: @imbackwimps: You people are crazy.

Team 1 stomps easily. Gladiator isn't near the level of Black Adam.

#6 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Bo88gdan: @imbackwimps: You people are crazy.

Team 1 stomps easily. Gladiator isn't near the level of Black Adam.

proof

#7 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps: Black Adam soloing the JSA on multiple occasions, and soloing the JLA and JSA twice. That and him handling a seemingly bloodlusted Supes who he didn't want to fight.

Seriously, a couple of SHAZAM's and this fight is over.

#8 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@imbackwimps: Black Adam soloing the JSA on multiple occasions, and soloing the JLA and JSA twice. That and him handling a seemingly bloodlusted Supes who he didn't want to fight.

Seriously, a couple of SHAZAM's and this fight is over.

and gladiator at 100% is no joke and with quasar help they can win

#9 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@imbackwimps: Black Adam soloing the JSA on multiple occasions, and soloing the JLA and JSA twice. That and him handling a seemingly bloodlusted Supes who he didn't want to fight.

Seriously, a couple of SHAZAM's and this fight is over.

and gladiator at 100% is no joke and with quasar help they can win

I realize Gladiator 100% isn't a joke, but he's still not at the level of Black Adam.

#10 Posted by Greendevil (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Bo88gdan: @imbackwimps: You people are crazy.

Team 1 stomps easily. Gladiator isn't near the level of Black Adam.

oh plz.

Glads is a planet buster with nanosec reaction speed and practically unbeatable at 100% confidence.........what do you mean isnt near the level of Black Adam? Stoms? lmao

It took 2 out 5 phoenixes to take him out. It took 1 to take out Thor. Also considering your name, i think its safe to say you have a biased opinion when it comes to BA. Glads at "100%" can hang with just about any powerhouse thx to his speed and power.

#11 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Bo88gdan: @imbackwimps: You people are crazy.

Team 1 stomps easily. Gladiator isn't near the level of Black Adam.

oh plz.

Glads is a planet buster with nanosec reaction speed and practically unbeatable at 100% confidence.........what do you mean isnt near the level of Black Adam? Stoms? lmao

It took 2 out 5 phoenixes to take him out. It took 1 to take out Thor. Also considering your name, i think its safe to say you have a biased opinion when it comes to BA. Glads at "100%" can hang with just about any powerhouse thx to his speed and power.

this

#12 Edited by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

#13 Posted by Greendevil (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

What make you think he can just grab Glads by the throat and say Shazam? I dont remember BA having nanosec reaction speed. I could be wrong but i would love to see a scan of that, if it exists. BA is a beast, but to say its a Stomp? dude, come on!

Featless five? did i miss something? I literally hate the P5, but as far as im concerned, the just stomped all of Marvel earth worse than anybody else. I have no idea what you mean with featless mate!

#14 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

the feat less five what? the phoenix has been kicking but for years thats the power they have now plus there own and if glads is like supes then he is a team buster because supes is and how is lighting going to stop glads anyway come on its going to take more than that

#15 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

You are obviously biased, you should be starting your posts with "As a Black Adam fan, I think that...". That's what I do when I post about Doom.

I'd also like to know what stories with Gladiator in it you have actually read.

#16 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

Team 2

#17 Posted by Saren (25687 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil said:

It took 2 out 5 phoenixes to take him out. It took 1 to take out Thor.

I don't understand this logic at all. It did not "take" 2 out of the 5 Phoenixes to beat Gladiator. There just happened to be two in the vicinity (four actually, but Scott and Emma preferred to watch), and they both wanted to beat the living daylights out of the Strontian, so that's what they did. This suggests that one of the Phoenixes wouldn't have sufficed, and there's absolutely zilch evidence for that. Just because a couple of people tag-teamed one guy does not mean that the guy could necessarily only be beaten by both of them at the same time and not either one solo...........especially since Gladiator put up an abysmal fight against Namor and Colossus and none of his blows actually did any damage to any of the Phoenixes. Suggesting this is proof that Gladiator is superior to Thor kind of flies in the face of the time Thor and Gladiator fought and Thor eventually won, you know?

I mean, come on, this is like saying "It took Odin to take out Thor" despite the fact that Odin completely roflstomped Thor.

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#18 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil: Adam's caught Jay Garrick (someone with at least nanosecond reaction time) mid speedblitz, so I'd say he has nanosecond reaction time.

Have the Phoenix Five beat anybody above Thor? If not I stand by my statement.

@imbackwimps said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

the feat less five what? the phoenix has been kicking but for years thats the power they have now plus there own and if glads is like supes then he is a team buster because supes is and how is lighting going to stop glads anyway come on its going to take more than that

That was a jumbled mess. Anyways, his SHAZAM's have made Martian Manhunter (who's as durable, if not more durable than Supes) look like a little girl.

@DocFatalis said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

You are obviously biased, you should be starting your posts with "As a Black Adam fan, I think that...". That's what I do when I post about Doom.

I'd also like to know what stories with Gladiator in it you have actually read.

I'll admit I have a bias. A big one at that. But that doesn't change the fact that Black Adam is a team buster, and that he has some awesome feats.

I'll be honest. I haven't read anything with Gladiator. I do have enough knowledge on his feats to make a logical decision in a fight like this, though.

#19 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Adam's caught Jay Garrick (someone with at least nanosecond reaction time) mid speedblitz, so I'd say he has nanosecond reaction time.

Have the Phoenix Five beat anybody above Thor? If not I stand by my statement.

@imbackwimps said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

the feat less five what? the phoenix has been kicking but for years thats the power they have now plus there own and if glads is like supes then he is a team buster because supes is and how is lighting going to stop glads anyway come on its going to take more than that

That was a jumbled mess. Anyways, his SHAZAM's have made Martian Manhunter (who's as durable, if not more durable than Supes) look like a little girl.

@DocFatalis said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Greendevil: Glads is Superman level (if that). Black Adam is above that. He's a team buster. He's handled people who have better feats than Glads, and he's done it easily, too. All he needs to do is grab him by the throat and say SHAZAM, and the fight's over.

Also, using the Featless Five as an example isn't a great idea.

You are obviously biased, you should be starting your posts with "As a Black Adam fan, I think that...". That's what I do when I post about Doom.

I'd also like to know what stories with Gladiator in it you have actually read.

I'll admit I have a bias. A big one at that. But that doesn't change the fact that Black Adam is a team buster, and that he has some awesome feats.

I'll be honest. I haven't read anything with Gladiator. I do have enough knowledge on his feats to make a logical decision in a fight like this, though.

you have not read anything about glads but you say he cant win oh ok

#20 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps: Your argument is posting a picture. Great....

#21 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@imbackwimps: Your argument is posting a picture. Great....

your BIAS

#22 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps: Just thought I'd let you know the picture isn't showing up.

BTW, posting pictures doesn't mean you win. Providing a logical argument does.

#23 Posted by Spartan101 (2355 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW: assuming teth fights glads.what if quasar takes him on,ww fights glads?

#24 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Spartan101 said:

@blackadamFTW: assuming teth fights glads.what if quasar takes him on,ww fights glads?

It would be closer for Team 2 if Glads fought Black Adam. Black Adam would beat Quasar, and Glads would probably stalemate Wonder Woman.

Adam helps WW out, and Team 1 wins.

#25 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Quasar's shields are gonna be hard to get threw, i give this too Team 2.

It tanked hits from 17 heroes

  1. Cyclops
  2. Wolverine
  3. Iceman
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Thing
  7. Hulk
  8. Jean Grey
  9. Human Torch
  10. She Hulk
  11. Rogue
  12. Colossus
  13. And four other people i don't know
#26 Edited by Greendevil (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Greendevil said:

It took 2 out 5 phoenixes to take him out. It took 1 to take out Thor.

I don't understand this logic at all. It did not "take" 2 out of the 5 Phoenixes to beat Gladiator. There just happened to be two in the vicinity (four actually, but Scott and Emma preferred to watch), and they both wanted to beat the living daylights out of the Strontian, so that's what they did. This suggests that one of the Phoenixes wouldn't have sufficed, and there's absolutely zilch evidence for that. Just because a couple of people tag-teamed one guy does not mean that the guy could necessarily only be beaten by both of them at the same time and not either one solo...........especially since Gladiator put up an abysmal fight against Namor and Colossus and none of his blows actually did any damage to any of the Phoenixes. Suggesting this is proof that Gladiator is superior to Thor kind of flies in the face of the time Thor and Gladiator fought and Thor eventually won, you know?

I mean, come on, this is like saying "It took Odin to take out Thor" despite the fact that Odin completely roflstomped Thor.

I love the fact that you took my 2 sentences and made it Gladiator is superior to Thor lol. I dont know what you smoke CB but its full of shit, i recommend you change your herbs.

Scott was also fighting as he and Kallark had a eye beam contest. So it was 3 out of 5 against him. I never said or suggested Gladiator was superior to Thor. I just stated that it took 2 phoenixes to take him out (it was 3 really) Mentioning Thor does not mean Thor is below Gladiator. It means (or i meant) Gladiator is not getting "stomped" by BA, as Thor is not getting "stomped" by BA

And yes i know Thor won, so what? He usually does that. Thor is Marvels Ace card, while Gladiator was jobbing so hard back in the day, even Cannonball screwed him over. And its not like Thor STOMPED Gladiator. He won, like he usually does (except against Hulk lol)

necessary or not, the scans speak for themselves. It took 3 phoenixes to take him out. Peter was tagged first, and then Scott. Its not like i was lying or made up some shit!

#27 Posted by Saren (25687 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil said:

I love the fact that you took my 2 sentences and made it Gladiator is superior to Thor lol.

Oh, I'm sorry. Was there some brilliant hidden meaning behind the direct comparison of opponents Thor and Gladiator have in common that just sailed over my ignorant head? Where I come from, if you say "It took 1 Phoenix to beat Thor, but two to beat Gladiator", it's kind of a big honking sign that you think Gladiator is superior to Thor because it required more power to defeat him than it did Thor. Humor my worthless unread self here, good sir. What other meaning could you possibly derive from that example? I'm honestly interested in knowing exactly what you think you meant. Claiming it "took" 2 of an opponent that defeated Thor to defeat Gladiator IS drawing a comparison, non? A comparison in favor of Gladiator, no? I'm not just spewing garbage because it's fun?

I dont know what you smoke CB but its full of shit, i recommend you change your herbs.

Flagged. You can share your experience with hallucinogens with one of the mods, thanks.

Scott was also fighting as he and Kallark had a eye beam contest. So it was 3 out of 5 against him. I never said or suggested Gladiator was superior to Thor. I just stated that it took 2 phoenixes to take him out (it was 3 really) Mentioning Thor does not mean Thor is below Gladiator. It means (or i meant) Gladiator is not getting "stomped" by BA, as Thor is not getting "stomped" by BA
And yes i know Thor won, so what? He usually does that. Thor is Marvels Ace card, while Gladiator was jobbing so hard back in the day, even Cannonball screwed him over. And its not like Thor STOMPED Gladiator. He won, like he usually does (except against Hulk lol)
necessary or not, the scans speak for themselves. It took 3 phoenixes to take him out. Peter was tagged first, and then Scott. Its not like i was lying or made up some shit!

LOL, half of this reply cannot agree with the other half. Scott never laid a finger on Gladiator. The only people he got into physical fights with were Namor and Colossus.........who beat the living daylights out of him.

Your scans prove nothing other and are useful only as an illustration of the point. It's like the whole point just sailed over your head. You're saying "It took 3 Phoenixes to take him out!", and that's just a completely ridiculous thing to say. Any one of them could have done the trick just fine. They preferred to cave his face in as a group. Considering that he never managed to hurt even a single one of them, it's not like an argument could be made that he would have won if it was a one-on-one fight, can it?

You're claiming that it's some kind of testament to Gladiator's power that 3 Phoenixes stepped in to beat him bloody, despite the fact that there is more than enough evidence to suggest that any one of them could have done the trick just fine. If 3 grown men beat a teenager into a coma, it does not mean that it took 3 grown muscular men to beat up a sickly teenager, it just means that there were 3 grown muscular men in the vicinity who all felt like beating a sickly teenager into a coma. It does not mean that the teenager's chances would have been better had it been just one man attacking him. Is that analogy clear enough?

I never said or suggested Gladiator was superior to Thor. I just stated that it took 2 phoenixes to take him out (it was 3 really) Mentioning Thor does not mean Thor is below Gladiator. It means (or i meant) Gladiator is not getting "stomped" by BA, as Thor is not getting "stomped" by BA

Explain this particular part to me as simply as you can. First you say it "took" 3 Phoenixes to beat Gladiator but only 1 to beat Thor, but that's somehow no reflection on Thor or Gladiator's abilities vis-a-vis Thor. Why even mention him then? What are you trying to say?

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#28 Posted by Mercy_ (92708 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps: Stop trolling and posting pictures and start debating. Use facts and scans. I'm tired of seeing entirely unhelpful pictures.

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#29 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Quasar's shields are gonna be hard to get threw, i give this too Team 2.

It tanked hits from 17 heroes

  1. Cyclops
  2. Wolverine
  3. Iceman
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Thing
  7. Hulk
  8. Jean Grey
  9. Human Torch
  10. She Hulk
  11. Rogue
  12. Colossus
  13. And four other people i don't know

Some of those people on the list aren't really in the same league for it to be considered impressive...

#30 Posted by pooty (11199 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Quasar's shields are gonna be hard to get threw, i give this too Team 2.

It tanked hits from 17 heroes

  1. Cyclops
  2. Wolverine
  3. Iceman
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Thing
  7. Hulk
  8. Jean Grey
  9. Human Torch
  10. She Hulk
  11. Rogue
  12. Colossus
  13. And four other people i don't know

Thanos, alone, destroyed those shields in one blast and we all know BA punches are more powerful than Thanos blast. Nevertheless, is it BFR if Quasar teleports everyone to the Quantum Zone? Also, cant Quasar drain their power like he did in Annihilators, when he stole SS, BRB, Gladiator energy to reinforce his shields? Also, i pray you know i'm joking about BA> Thanos.

#31 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Evil Incarnate said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Quasar's shields are gonna be hard to get threw, i give this too Team 2.

It tanked hits from 17 heroes

  1. Cyclops
  2. Wolverine
  3. Iceman
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Thing
  7. Hulk
  8. Jean Grey
  9. Human Torch
  10. She Hulk
  11. Rogue
  12. Colossus
  13. And four other people i don't know

Some of those people on the list aren't really in the same league for it to be considered impressive...

  1. Iceman
  2. Thor
  3. Hercules
  4. Hulk
  5. Jean Grey
  6. Human Torch
#32 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Quasar's shields are gonna be hard to get threw, i give this too Team 2.

It tanked hits from 17 heroes

  1. Cyclops
  2. Wolverine
  3. Iceman
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Thing
  7. Hulk
  8. Jean Grey
  9. Human Torch
  10. She Hulk
  11. Rogue
  12. Colossus
  13. And four other people i don't know

Thanos, alone, destroyed those shields in one blast and we all know BA punches are more powerful than Thanos blast. Nevertheless, is it BFR if Quasar teleports everyone to the Quantum Zone? Also, cant Quasar drain their power like he did in Annihilators, when he stole SS, BRB, Gladiator energy to reinforce his shields? Also, i pray you know i'm joking about BA> Thanos.

Do we now? Are we talking about the same Thanos who was able to damage Galactus's armor and destroy his helmet (an unprecedented feat I think) with one of his blasts during the Hunger arc?

Black Adam has a very serious power set and is I think an extremely interesting character, but I don't think that his powers of magic origin can compare to the power cosmic.

I know less about DC than I do about Marvel, but from what I have read, the Strontian has more brute force and speed. His resistance to heat and energy blasts is also quite astounding, so I don't think a Shazam bolt would suffice to take him down.

I do not know who would win, but anyway, this would be a hell of a fight.

#33 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Quasar's shields are gonna be hard to get threw, i give this too Team 2.

It tanked hits from 17 heroes

  1. Cyclops
  2. Wolverine
  3. Iceman
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Thing
  7. Hulk
  8. Jean Grey
  9. Human Torch
  10. She Hulk
  11. Rogue
  12. Colossus
  13. And four other people i don't know

Thanos, alone, destroyed those shields in one blast and we all know BA punches are more powerful than Thanos blast. Nevertheless, is it BFR if Quasar teleports everyone to the Quantum Zone? Also, cant Quasar drain their power like he did in Annihilators, when he stole SS, BRB, Gladiator energy to reinforce his shields? Also, i pray you know i'm joking about BA> Thanos.

At first i didn't know you were joking. And probably.

#34 Posted by gunmetalgrey (1269 posts) - - Show Bio

Not that the force fields would even be a factor to use against anyone's punches since Quasar is nigh immune to physical attack when he goes into his quantum light form. Adam will have to stall him at one spot long enough to utter SHAZAM! and hit him with magic lightning, which will be difficult to do to someone who's fast as light since well, he is made of light. Oh, and he'll have to touch him first too.. somehow..

#35 Posted by Greendevil (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Greendevil said:

I love the fact that you took my 2 sentences and made it Gladiator is superior to Thor lol.

Oh, I'm sorry. Was there some brilliant hidden meaning bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.......

hahahah..........whatever flag-master. Have a good day!

#36 Posted by pooty (11199 posts) - - Show Bio

@DocFatalis: In my last sentence i said i was joking. And Thanos would destroy BA in a one on one fight.

@jeanroygrant: I thought magic was one of the energies that the quantum bands couldn't deal with. i'm not sure how his force field would deal with magic lightning. but it's not like quasar has to sit still and allow himself to be blasted. Team 2 should win

#37 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Sorry, I didn't recognize the acronyms for what they were when I read your post.

#38 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5065 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm leaning towards team 2. I actually think WW I style wink link. Both sides have put up good arguments for both teams. I think Glads at full confidence=BA. I just don't think WW has an answer for Quasar.

#39 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@DocFatalis: In my last sentence i said i was joking. And Thanos would destroy BA in a one on one fight.

@jeanroygrant: I thought magic was one of the energies that the quantum bands couldn't deal with. i'm not sure how his force field would deal with magic lightning. but it's not like quasar has to sit still and allow himself to be blasted. Team 2 should win

i agree

#40 Posted by TDK_1997 (14897 posts) - - Show Bio

Both teams can win but I think Team 1 wins.

#41 Posted by Greendevil (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

Thanos, alone, destroyed those shields in one blast and we all know BA punches are more powerful than Thanos blast. Nevertheless, is it BFR if Quasar teleports everyone to the Quantum Zone? Also, cant Quasar drain their power like he did in Annihilators, when he stole SS, BRB, Gladiator energy to reinforce his shields? Also, i pray you know i'm joking about BA> Thanos.

  1. Techniclly, its a bfr. And if this option is open, team 2 stomps imo as Quasar is TOAA in the quantum zone.
  2. I dont see why not. Quasar is the main reason i give this fight to team 2
#42 Posted by cortadew (359 posts) - - Show Bio

this can go either way.

#43 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5440 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2, no one on team 1 has anything to deal with Quasar. Between his constructs,light form and speed who's gonna get near him to do damage?