Black Adam vs Wonder Woman [New 52]

Black Adam new 52 takes on Wonder Woman New 52.

Personally, I give it to Black Adam. Diana was crushed by Doomsday recently, in Superman/Wonderwoman She had both her arms broken instantly. Black Adam had his jaw crushed by UM, but he gave him a good fight and seriously drained his power levels and made him bleed. If a Kryptonian bleeds internally you know he is on his last legs.

Adam has nothing to put him up near Wonder Woman yet. Doomsday has always been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>than Adam. Ultraman snorts Kryptonite so who knows how his body works.

Wonder Woman should win in a good fight.

Black Adam turns her to stone

strength wise adam

powers adam

nothing in wondermans arsnals could harm him

Adam destroy Wonder Woman. If he's a match for Superman, what is WW going to do.

Dianna gots this.

As it stands right now Diana > Black Adam in New52. Adam just doesn't have feats to suggest he can hang with Wondy right now

WW

Well that actually quite a ridiculous statement seeing as she herself is a match for Superman. You act as if she's Ms. Marvels level.

Well for one any strength advantage he may have wouldn't be enough to decide the outcome. You're acting as if she's She-Hulk and he's Hulk. You seem to also forget that she's shown to be a much better fighter than he is.

Secondly his ranged attacks can and will be blocked by her bracelets.

Finally she has godly weapons that can harm him including a golden lasso that can revert him to his mortal form.

To be fair, in SM/WW, Superman was destroyed by Zod and Faora. WW did a lot better in her two on one battle against them and was able to injure both of them while they were unable to land a single hit on her. It's also telling that Zod thought enough of her abilities that he opted for a mutual retreat rather than taking her on again.

@cheesesticks: How do you know he is a match for Superman or not? So far closest enemy to Superman he countered was Ultraman and he literally destroyed Adam it was 2 issues ago and he still can't even speak straight lol

damn.....that's actually a great feat for wonder woman, now I have to check out the respect thread

damn.....that's actually a great feat for wonder woman, now I have to check out the respect thread

Diana.

I actually just read it and she was able to handle them both quite well. The New 52 version of Wonder Woman is shaping up to be quite the H2H combatant. Neither one of them were able to land a hand on her while both of them effortlessly tagged Superman. She even scarred Faora.

Black Adam

Wonder Woman.

Ultraman had a nose bleed, and Black Adam got absolutely punked. As someone already stated, Black Adam can't even talk properly and its been a couple issues.

QFT.

Mr. Z~kun

Even though Azzy isn't a permanent writer, he'd better take some damn notes from whoever wrote Wonder Woman to be a kryptonian ass whooping machine.

Diana is too good. Take away her weapons and it would be a Ross up. Her bracelet will catch the lightning. Her tiara will likely put in work if things were to get dicey. The Lasso is her best weapon against anyone tbh. And her op divine sword.

People forget that Black Adam and Captain Marvel are magic based. Wonder Woman is a divine warrior powerhouse. She is the Greek hammer of the gods.

Can she take her bracelets off and let out her god powers?

Until Black Adam gets more feats, WW wins.

Change New52 BA with Post Crisis.

@evil_incarnate: New-52 Wonder Woman has shown nothing on Superman's level. He has held the weight of The Earth for 5 days.

Pre-52 Adam beats her. He is simply too strong and too durable for the pre-52 Wonder Woman.

I think New 52 Wonder Woman can take it.

She lifted an ARGUS cargo plane.and helped Superman lift an aircraft carrier while pushing back the ocean water.

She's shown keeping up with Superman when he speedblitzed Shazam (kept up with him,too),and she has the reflexes to dodge/deflect Zod's lasers with her sword at close range,while fighting Faora (whom WW destroyed).

Adam got wrecked by Ultraman (who is resistant to magic,to be fair),and while Wonder Woman was beaten by Doomsday,she was never on his level in any incarnation. So why do you guys speak as if it's a low showing? Doomsday is even above any version of Black Adam.

Superman couldn't use all of his strength to lift the carrier as it would have cracked. She is not on his strength level, nor is she anywhere near it in the new-52. Superman only speed-blirzed Shazam after Shazam knocked Superman back with his punch and gloated about it, they were only scuffling about afterwards.

It's hard to gauge New-52 Wonder Woman's power levels. Her fighting skills and weapons is what puts her at a high-level, because the contrast between Superman and Wonder Woman's power levels have changed. In the pre-52 it was emphasized that they were near the same levels, but new-52 she has not shown the strength feats he has. IIRC, in Justice League Dark #23 Captain Marvel used his speed to throw an incoming Wonder Woman (who was not holding back due to the box). They even tell him to be careful of her.

I agree that New-52 Wonder Woman wins, but pre-52 she I think she loses.

@frozen said:

@cameron83 said:

I think New 52 Wonder Woman can take it.

She lifted an ARGUS cargo plane.and helped Superman lift an aircraft carrier while pushing back the ocean water.

She's shown keeping up with Superman when he speedblitzed Shazam (kept up with him,too),and she has the reflexes to dodge/deflect Zod's lasers with her sword at close range,while fighting Faora (whom WW destroyed).

Adam got wrecked by Ultraman (who is resistant to magic,to be fair),and while Wonder Woman was beaten by Doomsday,she was never on his level in any incarnation. So why do you guys speak as if it's a low showing? Doomsday is even above any version of Black Adam.

Superman couldn't use all of his strength to lift the carrier as it would have cracked. She is not on his strength level, nor is she anywhere near it in the new-52. Superman only speed-blirzed Shazam after Shazam knocked Superman back with his punch and gloated about it, they were only scuffling about afterwards.

It's hard to gauge New-52 Wonder Woman's power levels. Her fighting skills and weapons is what puts her at a high-level, because the contrast between Superman and Wonder Woman's power levels have changed. In the pre-52 it was emphasized that they were near the same levels, but new-52 she has not shown the strength feats he has. IIRC, in Justice League Dark #23 Captain Marvel used his speed to throw an incoming Wonder Woman (who was not holding back due to the box). They even tell him to be careful of her.

I agree that New-52 Wonder Woman wins, but pre-52 she I think she loses.

1. I know that. If he can bench press the planet,then of course he can lift an aircraft carrier.

2.Never said that she was on his level,just showing some strength feats.

3. I agree. And maybe we'll see more strength feats of her in the new 52. It's kind of.....unfair to compare the feats of over a decade to that of just 3 years :p

WW with her new feats should put her above black adam so far.

Meh. The only impressive thing Adam's done so far are beat Shazam, hold off the Shazam kids, travel from Kahndaq to Metropolis in seconds, and one-shot Giganta.

WW wins. Waaay better feats.

@tommyjones1945: When did Black Adam one-shot Giganta in the New 52?

Recent issue of Forever Evil.

Wonder Woman wins.

You have scans to support this claim?

Until we see more from Adam, I will give this to WW. This is a big deal since most know how much of a Black Adam fanboy I am.

No she is not. Superman holds back, a lot. Not to mention he is vulnerable to her magic sword and lasso, as they are magic. But even then, he could just fly out into space and heat vision her into pieces, if he had a mind to. She couldn't deflect using her bracelets because she doesn't have supervision and wouldn't know where he was blasting her from. Just and example.

Well for one any strength advantage he may have wouldn't be enough to decide the outcome. You're acting as if she's She-Hulk and he's Hulk. You seem to also forget that she's shown to be a much better fighter than he is.

Secondly his ranged attacks can and will be blocked by her bracelets.

Finally she has godly weapons that can harm him including a golden lasso that can revert him to his mortal form.

She has shown better fighting skills currently overall, but that's because we have seen very little from BA. Not to mention he has been written as a lunkhead thus far. Logically, BA is thousands of years old, though much of it was spent in captivity. Still, we have seen from the JL backups that he has mastery over his powers.Furthermore, he has the wisdom of Shuti (or whichever entitiy) to guide him in battle, if he chooses to use it. Simple fact is that in the olden times BA never went up against anyone like Superman/Ultraman, WW or even Shazam (Captain Marvel). He mostly had to deal with normal soldiers/humans, and the odd monster or two. So he isn't yet prepared to deal with Kryptonians and demi gods. But he is learning. I believe BA vs Ultraman round 2 will have a very different outcome, unless if DC wants to build up someone else and have them take out Ultraman.

Second, I seriously doubt wonder woman could block BA's lightning with her braclets. Lightning from his hands would be too chaotic and unfocused to be blocked by her gauntlets. And the Shazam bolt is too massive to be covered by her gauntlets.

Laslty, her lasso will no longer revert him to his mortal form. In the New 52 Billy and Teth only transform when they want to, not just by saying the word. Which is a very good change, because pre 52 people could just record billy yelling shazam and use that against him. :rolleyes: Furthermore, we don't know whether her sword can affect BA, because unlike other heros/villains BA has a large command over sorcery and magic.

TBH I think BA could crush WW with pure strength and speedblitzing alone, never mind his other abilities.

Is Wonder Woman immune to spells?

@viperking: One shotting Giganta is quite impressive to say the least. The Golden Age Superman one shotted her in Infinite Crisis while Power Girl was struggling.

And Since Post-crisis,Powergirl only have half of strength

Please get over this "Superman holds back a lot" BS. We've seen her handle a bloodlusted Superman who definitely wasn't holding back any punches. She also recently beat two Kryptonians at once who were beating the hell out of Superman.

Many of your reasonings for Adam are assumed on your part. Also you put the nail in the coffin with the fact that you said so yourself that BA doesn't have feats thus far that would garner him the win as he's being written as a "linkhead". This whole battle is what's been seen so far not what you would prefer or believe.

About the bracelets, have you never seen WW in action? She's blocked lightning before so your whole argument against that goes right out of the window.

As far as the lasso goes if what you say is true about Teth's new transformation, she could still tie him up thus incapacitating him. As far as the sword goes you have no proof that the sword wouldn't harm him you're just assuming/hoping it won't when in all actuality it's a sword created by a Greek god that's been able to hurt other gods (Darkseid).

You have no proof that BA is strong enough or fast enough to beat WW perhaps in the future you will, however as of now you don't.

Excuse me for breaking in here for a second. I haven't read any of either of your arguments so I don't know anything about what you're positions are. I just randomly noticed one thing. When in the new 52 has WW handled a blood lusted Superman? Since it's the new 52 versions of these characters.

Edit: Just skimming your later argument it seems you're talking more about pre 52 WW than 52 WW.

We were both talking about Pre 52 characters to some degree obviously as currently WW and Superman haven't had a scuffle. The main issue with this particular battle is that many people are referencing pre 52 Black Adam when currently he hasn't shown himself to be at that level, but people are just assuming that he automatically wins with no real feats.

@monsterstomp: Black Adam monsterstomps her!

I haven't read anyones debates yet and at this time not making a choice of winner yet. I would like to address some things in the op.

Diana was crushed by Doomsday recently, in Superman/Wonderwoman She had both her arms broken instantly.

People keep mentioning that as a mark against WW. People need to be aware this is the only time we have seen Doomsday in the 52 and know nothing of his capabilities. For all we know that could very well be a good showing or accurate. He could be much stronger physically than he was. Also we don't know how Superman will do against him or how WW would do better prepared.

Black Adam had his jaw crushed by UM, but he gave him a good fight and seriously drained his power levels and made him bleed. If a Kryptonian bleeds internally you know he is on his last legs.

I didn't look like much of a good showing to me. It kind of looks like it was done with ease not near his last legs. In fact I was kind of taken aback at how easy it seemed. Also Ultraman is from an alternate reality so you can't compare him to normal Kryptonians. Earth 2 Superman has been shown to be different than our Superman and Earth 3 seems to be even greater differences. Hence the lack of magic vulnerability and gaining powers from Kryptonite.

I think Black Adam could win. Does WW's lasso work on him? I know on some people it does work?

ok I understand now. Like I said I didn't read either arguments and only noticed that comment. For thread and battle purposes everyone should try and steer towards the new 52 versions.

tell me when WW can travel though time and is immortal U_U

@dernman: Naturally, however with the lack of feats for BA some people are gearing towards his previous incarnation, which holds no bearing on his current new 52 state. Instead of just saying that BA hasn't shown that he has what it takes to beat WW at this point and moving on they're going back to previous feats that are no longer current, assuming, speculating and just making up rules.

@officialrikudousennin:

Because she has to travel through time to beat BA? Did Ultraman use time travel when he beat Black Adam? Furthermore as a god she is immortal...