supermans weakness to magic is overrated! blackadam, although he has magical abilities, is not known for them! he's a brawler, he'd just as soon as poke your eyes through your head ala psycho pirate in infinite crises or rip you in half ala 52 with terra man! supes wouldn't have too much of a prob with teth adam in the end, not saying it will be easy, but big blue all the way in the end!
In comics it has gone both ways with Cap Marvel and Superman. So, since Cap Marvel has beaten Black Adam on many occasions and Supes has held his own against Cap. I give the win to Superman. I believe him to be stronger and the Marvels magic makes their blows seem equal to his strength.
I can't think of Captain Marvel ever beating Black Adam. At least not Teth. It's also been said that Black Adam is stronger than Captain Marvel. Which by extension makes him a little stronger than Superman in my opinion.
"I can't think of Captain Marvel ever beating Black Adam. At least not Teth. It's also been said that Black Adam is stronger than Captain Marvel. Which by extension makes him a little stronger than Superman in my opinion. "
I never saw anyone from the Marvel family do any feat to the degree of Superman. Why do you believe Black Adam to to be stronger?
Because Captain Marvel has matched Superman evenly in strength numerous times, and Black Adam has been said to be stronger than Marvel. Post Edited:2008-01-04 08:07:53
I always thought of Cap Marvel on par with Wonderwoman, being that they both have the strength of the the greek gods. I've read in a couple of comics that Cap Marvel's magic gave him the edge needed to win.
And if Black Adam is stronger than Cap Marvel, it never shows.
"Because Captain Marvel has matched Superman evenly in strength numerous times, and Black Adam has been said to be stronger than Marvel. Post Edited:2008-01-04 08:07:53"
It is said that black adam is stronger than marvel? it's always good to have some proof to back things up, it's really pointless just saying it is said to be the case! that really doesn't mean anything!
"I always thought of Cap Marvel on par with Wonderwoman, being that they both have the strength of the the greek gods. I've read in a couple of comics that Cap Marvel's magic gave him the edge needed to win. And if Black Adam is stronger than Cap Marvel, it never shows. "
It shows sometimes. When they were both in the JSA Captain Marvel tried to restrain Adam and Adam bulled through it and left Marvel dazed. When the team asked if Marvel was alright he told them that he'd forgotten how strong Adam was. And when Superman and Black Adam fought briefly in the Villains United crossover Superman notes after getting hit by him that Black Adam is even stronger than Captain Marvel.
I say superman wins its seems to me that he while he always fights Captain marvel to standstill supes is always holding back and marvel is going all out. If superman can somehow beat superboy prime I think he can beat black adam. Really Good fight though!
"I say superman wins its seems to me that he while he always fights Captain marvel to standstill supes is always holding back and marvel is going all out. If superman can somehow beat superboy prime I think he can beat black adam. Really Good fight though!"
Cap doesn't always go all out, there are not a lot that i can say he does. Maybe against Spectre.
"I think Black Adam would win. He has the skills and is willing to kill. His magic source could also be a major advantage against Superman."
but he doesn't know any Magic, neither Billy. So that won't be much of a factor here. But he does have the Wisdom of Zehuti. But am gonna go with Superman. Billy did beat Black Adam as well like.
"Yeah, i'm saying Black Adam, he's just too gruesome. I mean, if it came to a life or death situation he'd just rip Superman apart. Superman is too stupid to do that. He'd go easy on him and be like "I don't want to hurt you"."
although black adam is very strong, he is in no way strong enough to rip superman in half! that is very over the top and a good laugh! superman has taken on much stronger types and come out on top! if i remember correctly, BA barely tickled superboy-prime in infinite crises and superman did a hell of alot better agains prime that BA! I got no probs with people going for BA for the win, but BA tearing superman in half, beating the crap outta him! come on, are you serious?
"Yeah, i'm saying Black Adam, he's just too gruesome. I mean, if it came to a life or death situation he'd just rip Superman apart. Superman is too stupid to do that. He'd go easy on him and be like "I don't want to hurt you"."
although black adam is very strong, he is in no way strong enough to rip superman in half! that is very over the top and a good laugh! superman has taken on much stronger types and come out on top! if i remember correctly, BA barely tickled superboy-prime in infinite crises and superman did a hell of alot better agains prime that BA! I got no probs with people going for BA for the win, but BA tearing superman in half, beating the crap outta him! come on, are you serious? "
Yeah i didn't actually say 'Rip him in half' But okay, he could get some serious hits in before Superman would get serious.
But i see what you're saying.
Yeah Superman would easily win IF he was really pi*d off. So hopefully he's just been fired or something just before the fight takes place.
Thats not being serious though^^^^ its not hands down, it will be a close fight."
Yeah, it would be an awsome and very close fight, I was refering to the win, for the hands down! didn't say it was going to be easy! I just don't have any doubt that supes can take down adam, no matter how hard fought it would be! and superman doesn't need the threat to kill like BA, that's what makes him superman, just because someone has the intention to kill, doesn't make them stronger, smarter or better! superman has done just fine without the intent to ever kill and has more high end showing feats than any other character I know off!
Thats not being serious though^^^^ its not hands down, it will be a close fight."
Yeah, it would be an awsome and very close fight, I was refering to the win, for the hands down! didn't say it was going to be easy! I just don't have any doubt that supes can take down adam, no matter how hard fought it would be! and superman doesn't need the threat to kill like BA, that's what makes him superman, just because someone has the intention to kill, doesn't make them stronger, smarter or better! superman has done just fine without the intent to ever kill and has more high end showing feats than any other character I know off!"
i totally gree on the "superman doesn't need the threat to kill like BA, that's what makes him superman, just because someone has the intention to kill, doesn't make them stronger, smarter or better!".
Superman is 1 of the three so he would have more information on him. Black Adam is a sort-of bad guy, so they don't peraid BA around.
They tussled in a recent Superman comic, and Superman thinks to himself that he doesn't have to hold back with Adam. BA still seems to get the best of Superman, and he's not trying for a kill either at the time. I say BA is probably stronger and a better fighter... plus the magical factor and the wisdom of Zehuti... A battle of Titans, but ultimately the alien falls!
It amazes me how so many people have lost faith with superman and his abilities and who he is and what he stands for! it seems to me that people pick more aggressive characters just because there willing to do things that supes wouldn't! there's a difference between wouldn't and can't!
"It amazes me how so many people have lost faith with superman and his abilities and who he is and what he stands for! it seems to me that people pick more aggressive characters just because there willing to do things that supes wouldn't! there's a difference between wouldn't and can't! "
Exactly. Just because your willing to kill doesn't mean you have the power to do it. Black Adam isn't stronger than Supes. Not sure why others are saying this. The only way he holds his own is because of the magic. And in the recent comic, Superman never began to use his full strength. Black Adam turned his back and Supes stopped. Superman constantly holds back, even against characters as strong as he is (except for Doomsday). And he's faster. Black Adam and Cap Marvel are on par with Wonderwoman. They are powered by similar Gods.
In that comic, Supes thinks to himself that he's lucky that now when he's most angry, he's fortunate to be fighting someone with whom he doesn't have to hold back. In one panel, he's not able to even restrain Adam, who seems too shake him off without too much effort. Again, Adam doesn't appear to be going all out either, and seems to have a slight edge. Granted; here's a huge BA fan.
Assuming that Superman and Adam are somewhere close in power (there's obviously a lot of disagreement), I think BA has a significant edge because of Superman's various weaknesses coupled with the wisdom of Zehuti... BA can simply KNOW things he needs to with this power. For instance, where some kryptonite is, or a source or magic... And is there normal sunlight at the Rock of Eternity, where BA could transport them? Martian Manhunter didn't seem to be too much trouble for our man in black, and Superman has stated that MM is one of the few on earth he wouldn't want to face. It's worth noting that BA is supposed to be more powerful than Captain Marvel was, (at least before taking on the role of Shazam) because Marvel shares his power with the other Marvels, and he and the Kryptonian have squared off as seeming equals in the past.
"Assuming that Superman and Adam are somewhere close in power (there's obviously a lot of disagreement), I think BA has a significant edge because of Superman's various weaknesses coupled with the wisdom of Zehuti... BA can simply KNOW things he needs to with this power. For instance, where some kryptonite is, or a source or magic... And is there normal sunlight at the Rock of Eternity, where BA could transport them? Martian Manhunter didn't seem to be too much trouble for our man in black, and Superman has stated that MM is one of the few on earth he wouldn't want to face. It's worth noting that BA is supposed to be more powerful than Captain Marvel was, (at least before taking on the role of Shazam) because Marvel shares his power with the other Marvels, and he and the Kryptonian have squared off as seeming equals in the past. "
Unfortunately, it's DC's editing and bad writing that don't show martian manhunters true potential. you only hear bout it in panels when someone like supes mentions it! and superman wasn't around during WWIII, otherwise, there wouldn't have been WWIII! and if BA had all that wisdom, then he wouldn't have massacred that nation and tried to take down most of the DCU! just cause you have all these abilities, ie wisdom of so and so, speed of so and so, doesn't mean you your known for using them all the time! if that was the case BA would be suprememe and no one would stop him!
Exactly. Just because your willing to kill doesn't mean you have the power to do it. Black Adam isn't stronger than Supes. Not sure why others are saying this.
Black Adam isn't stronger than Supes. Not sure why others are saying this.
Because Superman and Captain Marvel have tested their strengths against each other and proved equal. Superman has acknowledged that Adam is even stronger than Marvel. If Black Adam is stronger than Marvel then he's by extension stronger than Marvel's equal.
This battle is simple, thy are both equal in terms of strength, speed in other words physical attributes. So who has the advantage? There are two important elements in this fight, one:magic, Adam has it and Supes is vulnerable to it. Two: Adam is a warrior, trained in the killing arts, so it comes down to this: two physically equal combatants, but one is a skilled fighter, the other is not. So use logic and think who will win, Adam can easily attack weak points in his anatomy to neutralize Supes, for example can Supes fight one handed,because Adam can easily use his skills to break his arms or whatever he thinks necessary.
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