#1 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Think before you speak, and study if need be.

#2 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

If Ghost Rider was out to get Black Adam I think he would win. But like in Ghost Rider WWH issue, if its just Johnny he probably wouldn't win.

#3 Edited by uugieboogie (2676 posts) - - Show Bio

#4 Posted by Dewin50 (413 posts) - - Show Bio

GR probably

#5 Edited by xxAcid_spitxx (112 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't the rider easily win this with his penance stare? Black Adam has so much to be guilty for.

#6 Posted by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

Rider of Ghosts.

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#7 Posted by Iragexcudder (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

Penance Stare is iffy. It didn't work on Punisher or Deadpool.

#8 Posted by Artyom (1335 posts) - - Show Bio

Teth.

#9 Posted by LEGACY6364 (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider took out the Avengers without even trying.

Ghost Rider gets my vote.

#10 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: It worked on Deadpool. He had so much sin, it lasted for a very long while. The art clearly shows that. Hell, it was even burning off his costume. I doubt Blaze would even need the PS to win.

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#11 Posted by Iragexcudder (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: I'm pretty sure he knocked out Blaze after, do you have the scan? I'm still at work

#12 Edited by LEGACY6364 (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

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#13 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: Yeah, he knocked out Blaze, but he was literally waiting for Deadpool to get up from it. Adam can't even hurt Ghost Rider.

Look at background and costume.
Now look at the background and costume again.

Not to mention Blaze was just standing there. I don't think he was trying to do anything to Deadpool, after the stare.

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#14 Posted by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@legacy6364: Didn't see your comment, but thanks for posting the scans!

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#15 Posted by Iragexcudder (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: eh. It's like a 50/50 with Wade I guess. It worked but didn't work, cuz if it did.. well, Deadpool wouldn't be around.

Didn't work on Punisher though of which surprised me, because he "Doesn't Regret". I don't think Teth regrets any of his actions either though.

Yeah Ghost Riders durability is insane, BFR is the only option of defeat

#16 Posted by LEGACY6364 (1778 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: He wouldn't be around? He can't really die. It clearly worked there. His healing factor saved his life there. Also, the stare doesn't fuel on regret anymore, only sin. It doesn't matter if they feel bad about it, anymore. I don't think BFR would since Ghost Rider is able to fly, IIRC.

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#18 Posted by Thedailybagel (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

I find ghost rider to be overrated at times. Sure Zarathos is a beast but zarathos is very rarely in power, it's normally the human host like blaze and I find him to be incredibly overrated. Just look at what world war hulk did to him.

If the host is blaze (or anyone but Zarathos) then I say teth could pull off a knockout.

#19 Edited by Iragexcudder (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: by definition the Penance Stare eradicated the tempered mind, right? Which is why I said Deadpool is still around.

Yeah he could fly, the motorcycle has wings. He's a hard character to debate against because he's majorly unstoppable. Teth surpasses him in almost every aspect though, besides the fact that Teth can be hurt and GR cant.

Is there a way that Ghost Rider can be snapped back to Johnny Blaze and KOed? I don't believe so. He should win tho

Are you read all new gr btw?

#20 Posted by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel: He can't even hurt Ghost Rider. WWH was just knocking Blaze around a tiny bit, there were no signs of actual pain. Ghost Rider would of stomped WW Hulk to death, if plot wasn't involved.

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#21 Posted by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: Nah I'll probably trade-wait for the new Ghost Rider series. I'm more of a Blaze fan. Also, I doubt snapping his neck would even phase him, since he was still walking and talking when a Lucifer-powered Jack-O-Lantern blew up his head.

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#22 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel:

Have you read Uncanny Avengers Annual #1?

Blaze stomps here.

#23 Posted by dontevenblink (460 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm gonna go with Black Adam for a slight majority because i like him better, but i can definitely see how GR's durability would make this a tough fight.

#24 Edited by Thedailybagel (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: ghost rider was on the floor and knocked out, please explain how that is "being knocked about a tiny bit". It took Zarathos to make hulk grunt a little with his hellfire, then hulk got used to it and was standing in it casually.

Even dr strange mentioned that GR could maybe stop hulk if the safety was turned off (Zarathos).

#25 Posted by Thedailybagel (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

@theking47: nope, haven't read it. Care to explain what he does?

#26 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel:

Can't be bothered, I'll just upload the scans later, or maybe someone else will.

#27 Posted by dondave (37345 posts) - - Show Bio

Current GR is a chump

#28 Posted by Iragexcudder (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: lmao really??? Please find me this scan.

Not trying to bait you here.. but the latest issue, someone (of whom I won't name) is riding his motorcycle towards Robbie Reyes from New York :o

It's an awesome comic, I recommend it to everyone. Tradd Moores are is simply remarkable

#29 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel: Oh yeah, that happened. I still have major issues with that fight, since Ghost Rider has literally had his head blown up, and kept walking. And I still have issues talking WWH seriously, due to a lot of people jobbering. The fight ended, because apparently Hulk isn't guilty for invading and attacking the heroes of Manhattan. But, we're not talking about WWH, since I'm kind of biased towards that event. Also, Zarathos took control (or at least used his power) fairly often in the Ghost Rider series', IIRC (Christ, I just realized it has been years since I've read a Ghost Rider comic). Ghost Rider was also dominating the Avengers recently, until Rogue somehow took the spirit from him. I can't see Teth doing anything to a serious Ghost Rider, besides dying.

@iragexcudder: Here's the scan. I may give the new Ghost Rider a try.

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#30 Posted by Iragexcudder (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

@theking47: I did. I thought he was good and everything but there was a few honorable mentions like a level A threat. That jagbag smeared Man Thing when he was trying to hug him! Lol but yeah someone should make a Blaze vs Flash thread lmao

#31 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder:

I don't want to even think about a Blaze vs Flash thread lol.

#32 Posted by Thedailybagel (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: the only person who I felt jobbed to hulk during WWH was reed Richards and his prep. Everyone else? Not so much. Sorry if I ever seem rude when discussing WWH mate but it just irritates me how everyone critisizes it with pretty much no evidence. Hulk was amped to an unknown degree and was also majorly p*ssed off so who the hell is it to say that people jobbed to hulk when we don't even know how powerful he was? I mean how were people jobbing to him when he actually lost at one point due to very specific plot purposes?

Sorry for going off on a rant but it just irritates me.

#33 Edited by Experio (15940 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost rider.

#34 Posted by dorukesin (5923 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny stomps

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#37 Posted by Cgoodness (4586 posts) - - Show Bio

GR

#38 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Please, no. I can't take anything in that issue of Thunderbolts seriously. I can't take 80% of Thunderbolts seriously. That issue wanked Venom to no end.

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#39 Edited by dondave (37345 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Why does the penance stare job? Why do this to Blaze? Why is this allowed? Why does Marvel do this to all my favorite characters? Why? They aren't even qualified to be Thunderbolts. Kill me now, God.

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#41 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel:

I said I'd upload the scans later on, and here they are.

#42 Posted by Thedailybagel (3492 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Posted by Thedailybagel (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

@theking47: woah, he's a beast, I don't know how he hurt thor like he did though.

#45 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel:

Yep, that isn't even the first time he has completely owned Thor.

#46 Posted by Apocalypse3 (1487 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.

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#49 Posted by GhostRider2 (3295 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: tell me you don't take that seriously, even a noob Blaze is beyond any street level.

#50 Posted by New_World_Order (13182 posts) - - Show Bio

The Penance Stare is so inconsistent it's unbelievable.