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#1 Posted by Achilles. (3847 posts) - - Show Bio

Setting: 
In space near the sun due to Apollo needing it.   
 
lets say Adam injured Midnighter. This pissed off Apollo. Apollo took him to the sun and they begin to fight.

 Black Adam


 Apollo
#2 Posted by Darkseid Elite (8424 posts) - - Show Bio

   
#3 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

apollo
#4 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@the darknessss said:

apollo

Hell no, Black Adam would cave Apollo's head right in.

#5 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam should win rather easily.

#6 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam.

Why does this thread have 4,000+ views but only 6 comments? Kinda weird

#7 Posted by Lady_Liberty (7775 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam wins.

Apollo just isn't in his weight class.

#8 Edited by Cozy_Da_Djed_Eye (9937 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol yeah why over 4k views and so little comments? And a black black Adam?

#9 Posted by ShadowKing (804 posts) - - Show Bio

This is Spite. 
 
Lock it up.

#10 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam for the win.

#11 Edited by ThatThorFan (951 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam 10/10

...

so many views.... so little comments...

#12 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShadowKing said:

This is Spite. Lock it up.

eh Under the scenario the OP gave, I wouldn't call it spite. Not that I think Apollo would win, but he'd put-up a better fight than typical circumstances.

#13 Posted by ShadowKing (804 posts) - - Show Bio
@Delta1938: I Guess you are right.
#14 Posted by Ms. Omega (4207 posts) - - Show Bio

Ummm not sure a sun dipped Apollo is a beast, but so is Black Adam

#15 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam wins

#16 Posted by Buckshot (18871 posts) - - Show Bio

If we're playing the no explanation game...Apollo.

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#17 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShadowKing said:

@Delta1938: I Guess you are right.

Of course I'm right. Apollo being powered-up+sufficiently angry and motivated=not a complete and utter raping, but still a win for Black Adam.

#18 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam takes this one in a decent fight.

#19 Posted by Chaos Prime (10621 posts) - - Show Bio

Can Apollo match BA speed wise? even when sun dipped?

Im going for BA here via K.O

#20 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@Chaos Prime said:

Can Apollo match BA speed wise? even when sun dipped?

Im going for BA here via K.O

In all honesty, I don't even think Apollo has real combat super speed. He can fly really fast, and I think his reflexes are enhanced, but I haven't seen anything to indicate he has greater than human speed beyond those two. Although I've only read the first 3 or 4 TPBs of THE AUTHORITY maybe 4 specials(the first KEV special, the special with Planetary, and the two Lobo one-shots), and none of the second volume. So maybe it was established that he has real combat super speed after the first 20 or so issues.

#21 Posted by King Saturn (222845 posts) - - Show Bio
Black Adam for the Win 
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well. 
#22 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

#23 Posted by Outside_85 (7162 posts) - - Show Bio

Currently Apollo doesn't have an impressive track record from his Stormwatch time where he is barely able to handle Atrocious in a brawl, Black Adam on the other hand has just appeared again so has no feats at all in the New 52. Pre-Flashpoint however I know just about nothing about Apollo and only that Adam floored most of DC Earth's heroes at one point (with some jobbing involved).

#24 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam.

If I had to form a team to save my planet and I could choose 7 people (good or evil from DC and Marvel) to stop the destruction, Black Adam is definitely there

#25 Posted by King Saturn (222845 posts) - - Show Bio
@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here. 
#26 Posted by ShadowKing (804 posts) - - Show Bio
@Delta1938: Are you sure you are right?
#27 Posted by TERMINATOR1000 (1203 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

Black Adam should win rather easily.

This.

#28 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

@Buckshot said:

If we're playing the no explanation game...Apollo.

It's like this man can read my mind...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#29 Posted by KingAres109 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

Well,I wouldnt say this guy would be able to handle my boy BA..Wats to say?BA stomps his head into his belly button......

#30 Edited by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@CozyDaPrynce said:

Lol yeah why over 4k views and so little comments? And a black black Adam?

It's an Egyptian Black Adam. That is a more accurate representation of how he would actually look than the usual images.

#31 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19489 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@the darknessss said:

apollo

Hell no, Black Adam would cave Apollo's head right in.

Dude he posted that a year ago.

Black Adam wins.

#32 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

the OP is trying to pump up Apollo by fully charging him and offing off his lover by Black Adam...and in the end Black Adam still wins

#33 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here.

I think Black Adam made a statement that implied him and Captain Marvel usually fight at super speed, that when Billy was power-sharing, he looked slow to Adam, and to my knowledge, Apollo doesn't even have real combat super speed. Flying super sonic doesn't matter, and I think Black Adam's exceeded that by a lot anyways. But I was talking about physically. Under the OP's scenario, Apollo's amped making things more even, but under normal circumstances, Black Adam's well above Apollo.

@ShadowKing said:

@Delta1938: Are you sure you are right?

Yep.

#34 Posted by King Saturn (222845 posts) - - Show Bio
@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here.

I think Black Adam made a statement that implied him and Captain Marvel usually fight at super speed, that when Billy was power-sharing, he looked slow to Adam, and to my knowledge, Apollo doesn't even have real combat super speed. Flying super sonic doesn't matter, and I think Black Adam's exceeded that by a lot anyways. But I was talking about physically. Under the OP's scenario, Apollo's amped making things more even, but under normal circumstances, Black Adam's well above Apollo.


But Again, what is the evidence that when Black Adam and Captain Marvel was fighting then they was moving at speeds beyond what Apollo could possibly do ? Now I agree that Black Adam is physically greater than Apollo... I had been said that already... my issue is the speed... and it's not like Black Adam always fights at some incredible speed anyways... I mean for the most part in World War 3, Black Adam was tearing through his opposition moving at normal speeds... but that was an high end example of Black Adam's Strength and Durability, not his Speed so much. Though I would not be surprised if Black Adam was faster than Apollo, just not magnitudes faster in volume. 
#35 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here.

I think Black Adam made a statement that implied him and Captain Marvel usually fight at super speed, that when Billy was power-sharing, he looked slow to Adam, and to my knowledge, Apollo doesn't even have real combat super speed. Flying super sonic doesn't matter, and I think Black Adam's exceeded that by a lot anyways. But I was talking about physically. Under the OP's scenario, Apollo's amped making things more even, but under normal circumstances, Black Adam's well above Apollo.

But Again, what is the evidence that when Black Adam and Captain Marvel was fighting then they was moving at speeds beyond what Apollo could possibly do ? Now I agree that Black Adam is physically greater than Apollo... I had been said that already... my issue is the speed... and it's not like Black Adam always fights at some incredible speed anyways... I mean for the most part in World War 3, Black Adam was tearing through his opposition moving at normal speeds... but that was an high end example of Black Adam's Strength and Durability, not his Speed so much. Though I would not be surprised if Black Adam was faster than Apollo, just not magnitudes faster in volume.

um The fact that Black Adam actually does have combat super speed, and I've never seen anything to indicate Apollo has any real combat super speed. I've stated numerous times I could be wrong, but never saw him do anything but fly fast. And while I'm not an AUTHORITY expert, I've read a couple dozen or so of Apollo's appearances. Do YOU have any examples that Apollo has actual combat super speed? Or is this an assumption because he's a Superman knock-off? Honest question.

#36 Posted by Cozy_Da_Djed_Eye (9937 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

Lol yeah why over 4k views and so little comments? And a black black Adam?

It's an Egyptian Black Adam. That is a more accurate representation of how he would actually look than the usual images.

I know it's more accurate, lol. I'm just surprised cause usually they put up that white looking dude =p

#37 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

Lol yeah why over 4k views and so little comments? And a black black Adam?

It's an Egyptian Black Adam. That is a more accurate representation of how he would actually look than the usual images.

I know it's more accurate, lol. I'm just surprised cause usually they put up that white looking dude =p

Oh. Got ya. I thought you were complaining.

#38 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman: Egyptians do think of themselves as white but just from Africa. You can still call him the white dude and be right.

#39 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschePG said:

@TheSwordsman: Egyptians do think of themselves as white but just from Africa. You can still call him the white dude and be right.

Umm. No. They Don't. Do you even know any Egyptians? I doubt it because you are simply making things up. Egyptians' hues varies from beige to dark brown. And, no, calling an Egyptian a white person would be correct whatsoever.

#40 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman: Its like calling Lennox Lewis not black cuz he is from England. The dude is black but happens to live in England

#41 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman: this didnt go through the first time

Umm...yes they do. Have you ever been to Africa? Ask a African. Its like people from Spain. They speak spanish. They colonized much of the latin america but they consider themselves white. Its not incorrect cuz I have spent time in Africa. You cant put down beige as an ethnicity. Egyptian is their heritage. African is their continental nationality. Egyptian the more specific nationality...like a person from California is in the United States. From experience, Egyptians consider themselves white cuz they sure dont consider themselves black, asian or hispanic....which is why they consider themselves white

And I have been to three countries in western africa, one in eastern africa...the more stable region and Egypt so I am speaking from experience

#42 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman said:

@boschePG said:

@TheSwordsman: Egyptians do think of themselves as white but just from Africa. You can still call him the white dude and be right.

Umm. No. They Don't. Do you even know any Egyptians? I doubt it because you are simply making things up. Egyptians' hues varies from beige to dark brown. And, no, calling an Egyptian a white person would be correct whatsoever.

@boschePG said:

@TheSwordsman: Its like calling Lennox Lewis not black cuz he is from England. The dude is black but happens to live in England

Your last statement is neither relevant to your first nor does it make any real sense. First you make a false statement that Egyptians consider themselves as white. They do not. I know because I have actual Egyptian friends. Now you try to convolute your argument by pretending that you were referring to nationality only and not pigment. You seem completely unreasonable. Goodbye.

#43 Posted by grimlock (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

isn't this the Apollo who is occasionally given trouble by Midnighter? he's not even BA's level at all

#44 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman: what does your friend put down? He is darker to true Caucasians but in Africa they are the white folk and even they are darker then say the South Africans, there is no denomination setting for being tan. Dont try to know how the owrld works cuz you know one family of Egyptian. Its like baseball, David Ortiz is darker toned latino while alex rodriguqez is a lighter latino. they are both latino and since there are only 5 main categories (white, black, hispanic, asian-pacific islander, native american) which one do you think your friend fits in. African and Egyptian or Libyan you cant put down

#45 Posted by Billy Batson (56979 posts) - - Show Bio

@Buckshot said:

If we're playing the no explanation game...Apollo.

Bad WildStorm fanboy bad! *slap*
BB

#46 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschePG said:

@TheSwordsman: this didnt go through the first time

Umm...yes they do. Have you ever been to Africa? Ask a African. Its like people from Spain. They speak spanish. They colonized much of the latin america but they consider themselves white. Its not incorrect cuz I have spent time in Africa. You cant put down beige as an ethnicity. Egyptian is their heritage. African is their continental nationality. Egyptian the more specific nationality...like a person from California is in the United States. From experience, Egyptians consider themselves white cuz they sure dont consider themselves black, asian or hispanic....which is why they consider themselves white

And I have been to three countries in western africa, one in eastern africa...the more stable region and Egypt so I am speaking from experience

Umm. No they don't. I actually have Egyptian friends and have talked with the Egyptian consul on dozens of occasions. There is no such thing as continental nationality and spanish people have white skin for the most part and most consider themselves white but Egyptians do not. Egyptians don't consider themselves white, black, asian, or hispanic because they consider themselves Middle eastern. Do you even think through the things you type. Egyptians don't consider themselves as white. You were and are utterly mistaken.

/Exits conversation.

#47 Posted by boschePG (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

Ill agree to exit conversation tho

#48 Posted by King Saturn (222845 posts) - - Show Bio
@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here.

I think Black Adam made a statement that implied him and Captain Marvel usually fight at super speed, that when Billy was power-sharing, he looked slow to Adam, and to my knowledge, Apollo doesn't even have real combat super speed. Flying super sonic doesn't matter, and I think Black Adam's exceeded that by a lot anyways. But I was talking about physically. Under the OP's scenario, Apollo's amped making things more even, but under normal circumstances, Black Adam's well above Apollo.

But Again, what is the evidence that when Black Adam and Captain Marvel was fighting then they was moving at speeds beyond what Apollo could possibly do ? Now I agree that Black Adam is physically greater than Apollo... I had been said that already... my issue is the speed... and it's not like Black Adam always fights at some incredible speed anyways... I mean for the most part in World War 3, Black Adam was tearing through his opposition moving at normal speeds... but that was an high end example of Black Adam's Strength and Durability, not his Speed so much. Though I would not be surprised if Black Adam was faster than Apollo, just not magnitudes faster in volume.

um The fact that Black Adam actually does have combat super speed, and I've never seen anything to indicate Apollo has any real combat super speed. I've stated numerous times I could be wrong, but never saw him do anything but fly fast. And while I'm not an AUTHORITY expert, I've read a couple dozen or so of Apollo's appearances. Do YOU have any examples that Apollo has actual combat super speed? Or is this an assumption because he's a Superman knock-off? Honest question.

You are answering the wrong question... I asked what evidence was there that Black Adam and Captain Marvel was moving at speeds that are beyond what Apollo could possibly do, Not that there was no evidence Black Adam lacks Combat Speed. Besides, just saying that it's a fact that Black Adam has combat speed means little... what is the degree of this combat speed ? Black Adam reacts in Microseconds ? Fractions of Microseconds ? I was talking about Apollo's speed was Supersonic and that Black Adam's should be as well ( dealing directly with traveling speed )... Combat Speed is something I was not directly talking about in the first place... just that they both have Speeds of Supersonic Pace... also, I even gave example of Black Adam battling Jay Garrick ( Flash ) as reason to why Black Adam could be faster than Apollo anyways. 
#49 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here.

I think Black Adam made a statement that implied him and Captain Marvel usually fight at super speed, that when Billy was power-sharing, he looked slow to Adam, and to my knowledge, Apollo doesn't even have real combat super speed. Flying super sonic doesn't matter, and I think Black Adam's exceeded that by a lot anyways. But I was talking about physically. Under the OP's scenario, Apollo's amped making things more even, but under normal circumstances, Black Adam's well above Apollo.

But Again, what is the evidence that when Black Adam and Captain Marvel was fighting then they was moving at speeds beyond what Apollo could possibly do ? Now I agree that Black Adam is physically greater than Apollo... I had been said that already... my issue is the speed... and it's not like Black Adam always fights at some incredible speed anyways... I mean for the most part in World War 3, Black Adam was tearing through his opposition moving at normal speeds... but that was an high end example of Black Adam's Strength and Durability, not his Speed so much. Though I would not be surprised if Black Adam was faster than Apollo, just not magnitudes faster in volume.

Black Adam was fighting Jay Garrick at super speeds, and everything around them looked like it was standing still.

#50 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@grimlock said:

isn't this the Apollo who is occasionally given trouble by Midnighter? he's not even BA's level at all

While true, the OP set-up a scenario powering Apollo up. He still loses, though.

@boschePG said:

@TheSwordsman: what does your friend put down? He is darker to true Caucasians but in Africa they are the white folk and even they are darker then say the South Africans, there is no denomination setting for being tan. Dont try to know how the owrld works cuz you know one family of Egyptian. Its like baseball, David Ortiz is darker toned latino while alex rodriguqez is a lighter latino. they are both latino and since there are only 5 main categories (white, black, hispanic, asian-pacific islander, native american) which one do you think your friend fits in. African and Egyptian or Libyan you cant put down

Pretty sure that Polynesian is separate from "Asian" which is rather incorrect to use for race(since much of Russia is in Asia, for example). And last I checked, there were also Arabs and Persians(although they're more related to white I think).

@TheSwordsman said:

@boschePG said:

@TheSwordsman: this didnt go through the first time

Umm...yes they do. Have you ever been to Africa? Ask a African. Its like people from Spain. They speak spanish. They colonized much of the latin america but they consider themselves white. Its not incorrect cuz I have spent time in Africa. You cant put down beige as an ethnicity. Egyptian is their heritage. African is their continental nationality. Egyptian the more specific nationality...like a person from California is in the United States. From experience, Egyptians consider themselves white cuz they sure dont consider themselves black, asian or hispanic....which is why they consider themselves white

And I have been to three countries in western africa, one in eastern africa...the more stable region and Egypt so I am speaking from experience

Umm. No they don't. I actually have Egyptian friends and have talked with the Egyptian consul on dozens of occasions. There is no such thing as continental nationality and spanish people have white skin for the most part and most consider themselves white but Egyptians do not. Egyptians don't consider themselves white, black, asian, or hispanic because they consider themselves Middle eastern. Do you even think through the things you type. Egyptians don't consider themselves as white. You were and are utterly mistaken.

/Exits conversation.

Last I checked, "Middle Eastern" referred to people from the Middle East, which can be Arab, black and Persian, maybe more.

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

@Delta1938 said:

@King Saturn said:

Black Adam for the Win
considering Black Adam is essentially a Superman level threat ( at least physically ) I think that alone gives him a slight edge over Apollo... speed wise it's possible Apollo and Black Adam are not that far off... then again Black Adam was battling Flash ( Jay Garrick ) at super speeds... so maybe he might have an edge there as well.

Are you talking about Black Adam having a slight edge in the OP's scenario, or when Apollo's at his normal levels? 'Cuz if you mean under normal levels, you're wrong, Apollo is well below Black Adam. But as I said shortly before your post, I don't think Apollo even has real combat super speed, but I could be wrong.

Black Adam hardly has any real Speed Feats to say he is well above Apollo... Apollo can move at Supersonic Speeds... and so can Black Adam so I don't understand what you are talking about here.

I think Black Adam made a statement that implied him and Captain Marvel usually fight at super speed, that when Billy was power-sharing, he looked slow to Adam, and to my knowledge, Apollo doesn't even have real combat super speed. Flying super sonic doesn't matter, and I think Black Adam's exceeded that by a lot anyways. But I was talking about physically. Under the OP's scenario, Apollo's amped making things more even, but under normal circumstances, Black Adam's well above Apollo.

But Again, what is the evidence that when Black Adam and Captain Marvel was fighting then they was moving at speeds beyond what Apollo could possibly do ? Now I agree that Black Adam is physically greater than Apollo... I had been said that already... my issue is the speed... and it's not like Black Adam always fights at some incredible speed anyways... I mean for the most part in World War 3, Black Adam was tearing through his opposition moving at normal speeds... but that was an high end example of Black Adam's Strength and Durability, not his Speed so much. Though I would not be surprised if Black Adam was faster than Apollo, just not magnitudes faster in volume.

um The fact that Black Adam actually does have combat super speed, and I've never seen anything to indicate Apollo has any real combat super speed. I've stated numerous times I could be wrong, but never saw him do anything but fly fast. And while I'm not an AUTHORITY expert, I've read a couple dozen or so of Apollo's appearances. Do YOU have any examples that Apollo has actual combat super speed? Or is this an assumption because he's a Superman knock-off? Honest question.

You are answering the wrong question... I asked what evidence was there that Black Adam and Captain Marvel was moving at speeds that are beyond what Apollo could possibly do, Not that there was no evidence Black Adam lacks Combat Speed. Besides, just saying that it's a fact that Black Adam has combat speed means little... what is the degree of this combat speed ? Black Adam reacts in Microseconds ? Fractions of Microseconds ? I was talking about Apollo's speed was Supersonic and that Black Adam's should be as well ( dealing directly with traveling speed )... Combat Speed is something I was not directly talking about in the first place... just that they both have Speeds of Supersonic Pace... also, I even gave example of Black Adam battling Jay Garrick ( Flash ) as reason to why Black Adam could be faster than Apollo anyways.

If all you're talking about is travel speed, wtf are you arguing? Travel speed would have little to no effect on the fight. And Black Adam's already shown lightspeed or faster flight IIRC.