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#1  Edited By King_Saturn

Can Odin and Loki defeat Black Adam and Superman Prime ?

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odin loki

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#3  Edited By Apparition

King Saturn says:

"Can Odin and Loki defeat Black Adam and Superman Prime ?"

no

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#4  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Apparition says:

"King Saturn says:
"Can Odin and Loki defeat Black Adam and Superman Prime ?"

no"

Agreed. Isn't Superman Prime immune to magic? Kinda makes Loki's presence a non-factor.

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Gambler says:

"Apparition says:
"King Saturn says:
"Can Odin and Loki defeat Black Adam and Superman Prime ?"
no"
Agreed. Isn't Superman Prime immune to magic? Kinda makes Loki's presence a non-factor. "

prime certainly is!

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#6  Edited By lordraiden

Odin takes care of them both on his own! Loki just sits in the shadows and laughs!

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#7  Edited By MotorSteel

I'm gonna say SBP and BA, solely because I don't see Lokie as a threat and after beating him, they can double team Odin.

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did superman prime ever get beat in the comics?

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#9  Edited By MotorSteel

ulitmateninjagaidenx says:

"did superman prime ever get beat in the comics?"

Why?

They'd easily take out Loki I'm sure

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Gambler says:

"Apparition says:
"King Saturn says:
"Can Odin and Loki defeat Black Adam and Superman Prime ?"
no"
Agreed. Isn't Superman Prime immune to magic? Kinda makes Loki's presence a non-factor. "
Methos told me is is vunerable to it just like Superman is. SO my vote is for Odin and Loki.
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MotorSteel says:

"ulitmateninjagaidenx says:
"did superman prime ever get beat in the comics?"
Why? They'd easily take out Loki I'm sure "

just wondering cuz i stop reading superman comicbooks along time ago, no big deal just wondering, yeah superman prime and black adam can take out loki.

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#12  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Jim says:

"Yeah I don't think he is invulnerable to it. He can still be effected by powerful magic users or something like that from what I heard."

He's impervious to all magic, not from his dimension. So in other words Odin and Loki's magic would have no affect on him whatsoever.

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#13  Edited By lordraiden

ulitmateninjagaidenx says:

"MotorSteel says:
"ulitmateninjagaidenx says:
"did superman prime ever get beat in the comics?"
Why? They'd easily take out Loki I'm sure "
just wondering cuz i stop reading superman comicbooks along time ago, no big deal just wondering, yeah superman prime and black adam can take out loki. "

Doesn't really matter! Odin can take care of them on his own, I believe!

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lordraiden says:

"ulitmateninjagaidenx says:
"MotorSteel says:
"ulitmateninjagaidenx says:
"did superman prime ever get beat in the comics?"
Why? They'd easily take out Loki I'm sure "
just wondering cuz i stop reading superman comicbooks along time ago, no big deal just wondering, yeah superman prime and black adam can take out loki. "
Doesn't really matter! Odin can take care of them on his own, I believe! "

yeah i beleave you dude i agree with you, i still thank odin would win

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#15  Edited By King_Saturn

I think Black Adam and Superman Prime would win. It would be a solid fight though

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#16  Edited By batosaimsx
King Saturn said:
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I think Black Adam and Superman Prime would win. It would be a solid fight though

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Agreed mainly because of their immunity to magic
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#17  Edited By never give up

Team 1.

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Odin solos.

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#19  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Odin solos."

I would like to see that seeing magic attacks and spells are completely useless against prime. BA is also highly resistant to it.

Honestly prime could possibly solo this.
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I thought he just had a high resistance to magic?

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#21  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"I thought he just had a high resistance to magic?"

BA does, but prime is completely immune to it. Even extremely powerful magic attacks or spells just tickle him.
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But the only magic users/reality warpers Prime has fought that can compare to Odin are the Anti-Monitor and Mxy. And that was when he was powered by the Guardians and in my opinion taking out Mxy was PIS.

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#23  Edited By castleking

yup......

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#24  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"But the only magic users/reality warpers Prime has fought that can compare to Odin are the Anti-Monitor and Mxy. And that was when he was powered by the Guardians and in my opinion taking out Mxy was PIS."

Well first off prime beat anti-monoter before he had absorbed that guardians energy. Taking Mxy hostage after had nothing to do with his new energy, Mxy just couldn't do anything to him because he is immune to all magic and reality warping because it didn't exist on his earth. PIS has nothing to do with it...
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#25  Edited By AtPhantom
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"But the only magic users/reality warpers Prime has fought that can compare to Odin are the Anti-Monitor and Mxy. And that was when he was powered by the Guardians and in my opinion taking out Mxy was PIS."
Anti-Monitor would eat Odin for breakfast.

With that said, Prime is pretty ridiculous in terms of power. I think Odin could win in the end, but it would be hell on Earth.
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#26  Edited By bloodmist
castleking said:
"yup......"

nope...wait till I respond before you pollute this thread with your lack of knowledge.
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bloodmist said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"But the only magic users/reality warpers Prime has fought that can compare to Odin are the Anti-Monitor and Mxy. And that was when he was powered by the Guardians and in my opinion taking out Mxy was PIS."

Well first off prime beat anti-monoter before he had absorbed that guardians energy. Taking Mxy hostage after had nothing to do with his new energy, Mxy just couldn't do anything to him because he is immune to all magic because it didn't exist on his earth. PIS has nothing to do with it..."
Mxy isn't even magic...
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#28  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"bloodmist said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"But the only magic users/reality warpers Prime has fought that can compare to Odin are the Anti-Monitor and Mxy. And that was when he was powered by the Guardians and in my opinion taking out Mxy was PIS."

Well first off prime beat anti-monoter before he had absorbed that guardians energy. Taking Mxy hostage after had nothing to do with his new energy, Mxy just couldn't do anything to him because he is immune to all magic because it didn't exist on his earth. PIS has nothing to do with it..."
Mxy isn't even magic..."

He is immune to magic and reality warping because neither existed on his planet. Sorry I didn't realize you could use your brain, I will be sure to spell everything out for you next time.
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bloodmist said:
He is immune to magic and reality warping because neither existed on his planet.
The Speed Force didn't exist on his planet and what happened to him?
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#30  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"bloodmist said:
He is immune to magic and reality warping because neither existed on his planet.
The Speed Force didn't exist on his planet and what happened to him?"
Kryptonians don't use the speed force...
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They don't warp reality either.

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#32  Edited By castleking

mxy has his super science

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#33  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"They don't warp reality either."

Wtf are you talking about? I never said Prime could dumbass I said he is immune to its effects along with magic. The point is that he is immune to transmutation, magic, and reality warping. Don't blame me blame whoever created the character or go cry about it. The marvel team is losing...
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#34  Edited By King_Saturn
castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?
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#35  Edited By AtPhantom
King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power.
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#36  Edited By King_Saturn
AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power."
Some Sources do refer to Mxy's Power as being Magical in Nature though... or functioning like Magic
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#37  Edited By bloodmist
AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power."

You really have no proof that it was because of the guardians power only. Prime has always been resistant to such things he owned anti moniter and faught the guardians.

Either way team 1 is winning. Prime is immune to anything that team 2 has in his normal form.
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#38  Edited By AtPhantom
King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power."
Some Sources do refer to Mxy's Power as being Magical in Nature though... or functioning like Magic"
Like who?
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In the 5th dimensional Zrfff, super-science mimics astounding magic.

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#40  Edited By King_Saturn
AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power."
Some Sources do refer to Mxy's Power as being Magical in Nature though... or functioning like Magic"
Like who?"
DC Database, Wikipedia, and it was mentioned in a Comic as well I think...
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bloodmist said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"They don't warp reality either."

Wtf are you talking about? I never said Prime could dumbass I said he is immune to its effects along with magic. The point is that he is immune to transmutation, magic, and reality warping. Don't blame me blame whoever created the character or go cry about it. The marvel team is losing..."
Wow. Never knew Prime was that powerful... When was this shown?
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#42  Edited By AtPhantom
bloodmist said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power."

You really have no proof that it was because of the guardians power only. Prime has always been resistant to such things he owned anti moniter and faught the guardians.

Either way team 1 is winning. Prime is immune to anything that team 2 has in his normal form."
You really have no proof it wasn because of the guardian power only. And he didn't actually fight the anti monitor, he just punched him when he was down.

But on the other note, Pre crisis kryptonians are unbelievable. Just look at COIE. Supergirl nearly overcome the universe eating anti monitor by herself. This fight woudn't end soon no matter who wins. If it was guardian Prime then he would squish Odin and Loki, this way i think Odin could take him. And then die of internal injuires.
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#43  Edited By King_Saturn
I dont know if Prime is immune to Reality Warping...
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#44  Edited By bloodmist
AtPhantom said:
"bloodmist said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"mxy has his super science"
What Do You Mean By Super Science ? Is That Another Term For Reality Warping ?"
It's not science and it's not magic, it's just something third. And Prime resisted it because he had Guardians power."

You really have no proof that it was because of the guardians power only. Prime has always been resistant to such things he owned anti moniter and faught the guardians.

Either way team 1 is winning. Prime is immune to anything that team 2 has in his normal form."
You really have no proof it wasn because of the guardian power only. And he didn't actually fight the anti monitor, he just punched him when he was down.

But on the other note, Pre crisis kryptonians are unbelievable. Just look at COIE. Supergirl nearly overcome the universe eating anti monitor by herself. This fight woudn't end soon no matter who wins. If it was guardian Prime then he would squish Odin and Loki, this way i think Odin could take him. And then die of internal injuires."
I see no way of Odin killing prime, but  to each his own.
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#45  Edited By Kid Crow

Honestly, if you're not reading the current Thor series you have no idea of Loki's abilities.  He doesn't need to attack them directly with magic, just warp the space around them and such.  He is EXTREMELY powerful with magic. 

Loki & Odin for the win with prep-time.  Without prep, different story.

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#46  Edited By bloodmist
Kid Crow said:
"Honestly, if you're not reading the current Thor series you have no idea of Loki's abilities.  He doesn't need to attack them directly with magic, just warp the space around them and such.  He is EXTREMELY powerful with magic. 

Loki & Odin for the win with prep-time.  Without prep, different story.


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But you have to understand that magic means jack sh#t to BA and isn't able to do a thing to prime....you need a better reason that that. No matter what they do its all magic...
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I still don't see why Odin can't just teleport them into another dimension...

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BTW - Can you tell me which in which issue Prime was shown or was stated to have complete immunity to reality warping / magic / transmutation?

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#49  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"I still don't see why Odin can't just teleport them into another dimension..."
Since he uses magic it wouldn't work, but no one on the DC earth was able to do that who used magic. Even if he could don't you think that is a lame ass way of saying he wins? Is Odin too much of a p#ssy to fight him?
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#50  Edited By bloodmist
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"BTW - Can you tell me which in which issue Prime was shown or was stated to have complete immunity to reality warping / magic / transmutation?"

It wasn't just one issue. He always tells every person who fights with magic (Black Adam) or uses spells (Mordru a sorcerer with limitless magical power) that it only tickles him or it doesn't work.
 
The Anti-moniter  was unable to do anything to him and he has limitless cosmic power which can also allows him to manipulate enery/matter and warp reality.

Hell even the guardians couldn't take him down until one of them sacraficed himself and exploded with all his energy.