Black Adam and Captain Marvel vs Thor and WW

Team 1: Black Adam and Cap Marvel

vs

Team 2: Thor and WW

Random encounter

All are in character and fight is to KO, team knows they have to win or die.

Fight takes place on an abandoned Apakolips.

Who wins and Why. Please explain with reasons as tho why which team would win.

Team 2.

@NEEK_03: In power, strength, speed, etc all the DC characters are about equal except WW is a hell of a fighter. She can beat either of team 1 with her skill. Thor has the most versatility. Team 2 wins

@pooty said:

@NEEK_03: In power, strength, speed, etc all the DC characters are about equal except WW is a hell of a fighter. She can beat either of team 1 with her skill. Thor has the most versatility. Team 2 wins

This

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

@pooty said:

@NEEK_03: In power, strength, speed, etc all the DC characters are about equal except WW is a hell of a fighter. She can beat either of team 1 with her skill. Thor has the most versatility. Team 2 wins

I know team 2 is the better trained fighters, i just thought the speed from team 1 would give Thor trouble, kind of like the way supes gives Thor trouble. i figured either Adam or Marvel would give Thor good debate, and between Marvel and WW i figured he would be able to slug it out with WW due to his range. CM is similar to supes who IMO will take WW, now CM has no prob with magic, i thought it would even the field.

Team 1

Black Adam and Captain Marvel both can fight at super speed.

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

see i was expecting something like this. though sayin he is a non factor is harsh to me.

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

No, He isn't. His strength is equal to their and his versatility combined with WW's lasso and Skills ensures the win.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

No, He isn't. His strength is equal to their and his versatility combined with WW's lasso and Skills ensures the win.

So what his speed isnt equal also vesatility only matter if they just stand there WW is only threat

@NEEK_03: what speed? WW can block anything. She has better combat speed than anyone here. Her reflexes are only matched by the Flash. what speed feats do either of Team 1 have that WW has not matched? What range does CM have? WW can shoot lightning also. ANd Thor has the best ranged attacks of all. It won't be an easy win but team 2 will do it.

@jeanroygrant said:

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

Thor a none factor??? Lool

ik hes your fav but as far as i see he aint bringing whats needed to the table

@Immortal777 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

No, He isn't. His strength is equal to their and his versatility combined with WW's lasso and Skills ensures the win.

So what his speed isnt equal also vesatility only matter if they just stand there WW is only threat

Thor has shown Microsecond and Milisecond reaction time multiple times so its not like he doesn't have super speed. Also Unlike Superman, Captain Marvel does not have nanosecond reaction time, so if Thor's a non-factor then, he is too. Black Adam's only real speed feat was keeping up with Jay Garrick in their fight. WW should be able to subdue Him. And Thor's versatility should be enough to take out Billy. Team 2 FTW.

@jeanroygrant said:

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

Thor a none factor??? Lool

DC Fanboys are so ignorant -___-

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

No, He isn't. His strength is equal to their and his versatility combined with WW's lasso and Skills ensures the win.

So what his speed isnt equal also vesatility only matter if they just stand there WW is only threat

Thor has shown Microsecond and Milisecond reaction time multiple times so its not like he doesn't have super speed. Also Unlike Superman, Captain Marvel does not have nanosecond reaction time, so if Thor's a non-factor then, he is too. Black Adam's only real speed feat was keeping up with Jay Garrick in their fight. WW should be able to subdue Him. And Thor's versatility should be enough to take out Billy. Team 2 FTW.

@jeanroygrant said:

@Immortal777 said:

Team 1 thor is a non factor WW is the only one who can even keep up with speed and she aint beating both

Thor a none factor??? Lool

DC Fanboys are so ignorant -___-

Im not going to debate with you about thors speed there are threads here that has CM vs Thor and CM wins I see no reason for it to be diffrent now

@jeanroygrant: So he still cant hit them so it doesnt matter

Team 2 for win

@Immortal777 said:

Im not going to debate with you about thors speed there are threads here that has CM vs Thor and CM wins I see no reason for it to be diffrent now

Marvel has no speed feats to suggest he could blitz Thor.

@Immortal777 said:

@jeanroygrant: So he still cant hit them so it doesnt matter

Considering That Thor has effortlessly tagged speedsters, I'm positive he could.

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001: Tell me about it.

@Immortal777: Thor is the most verstaile and has the most devastasting attacks than anyone else here. Thor has attacks that will 1 shot team 2. Thor is equal to all of them with strength. Although Thor is slower, he is still 3 times faster than the speed of light. Also Thor hits the hardest out of all of them via hammer. So no Thor is bringing a lot to the table.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Im not going to debate with you about thors speed there are threads here that has CM vs Thor and CM wins I see no reason for it to be diffrent now

Marvel has no speed feats to suggest Thor

@Immortal777 said:

@jeanroygrant: So he still cant hit them so it doesnt matter

Considering That Thor has effortlessly tagged speedsters, I'm positive he could.

No thor has NEVER effortlessly tagged a speedster he has always done an AOE attack or the speedster never used superspeed

@jeanroygrant: In a COMIC Thor could tag flash this isnt a comic fight

@jeanroygrant: I had the same debate with you before and got bored nowhere did it say sufer was using superspeed

Team 1 easily

@pooty said:

@NEEK_03: what speed? WW can block anything. She has better combat speed than anyone here. Her reflexes are only matched by the Flash. what speed feats do either of Team 1 have that WW has not matched? What range does CM have? WW can shoot lightning also. ANd Thor has the best ranged attacks of all. It won't be an easy win but team 2 will do it.

i didnt say WW couldnt keep up, i said the speed would give THOR problems. so.....? and CM has many ranged attacks. once again i said the range would give WW a problem, not thor. you're mixing up what im sayin.

@Immortal777 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Im not going to debate with you about thors speed there are threads here that has CM vs Thor and CM wins I see no reason for it to be diffrent now

Marvel has no speed feats to suggest Thor

@Immortal777 said:

@jeanroygrant: So he still cant hit them so it doesnt matter

Considering That Thor has effortlessly tagged speedsters, I'm positive he could.

No thor has NEVER effortlessly tagged a speedster he has always done an AOE attack or the speedster never used superspeed

Hes grabbed a SPEEDING AND IN MOTION Hermes. Say, doesn't Marvel and Adam's speed equal to Hermes? Also he's tag the Silver Sufer And they were fightings so fast, they were leaving numourous after images. And as I explained before, Thor has shown micro and even millisecond reaction time. He can full well hit the both of them.

@venomoushatred1001: Nowhere did it say how fast hermes and surfer were moving IM done

I would go with team 1, but people saying Thor is too slow or a nonfactor are ridiculous

Can he remove the Shazam force?

@czarny_samael666: Why like you said this is in character why would thor use his abilities he always slugs it out

@jeanroygrant: It says microsecondS and i dont care if his hammer could move a billion time the speed of light thats the hammer its a plot weapon but that still doesnt have anything to do with thor speed just the hammer

I tend to side with team 1 but wonder what Wonder Woman's lasso would do since it screws with magic.

@capfan80: She could get them to turn human

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Immortal777 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Im not going to debate with you about thors speed there are threads here that has CM vs Thor and CM wins I see no reason for it to be diffrent now

Marvel has no speed feats to suggest Thor

@Immortal777 said:

@jeanroygrant: So he still cant hit them so it doesnt matter

Considering That Thor has effortlessly tagged speedsters, I'm positive he could.

No thor has NEVER effortlessly tagged a speedster he has always done an AOE attack or the speedster never used superspeed

Show me a prove that Cap is faster than Thor. Not to mention that this is fight in character.

I would also be interested in this.

@Immortal777 said:

@venomoushatred1001: Nowhere did it say how fast hermes and surfer were moving IM done

They were in motion and it has been stated thet those who cannot move FTL cannot see Hermes. Surfer usually flies FTL on his board and since he was leving after images, its a pretty safe bet he was moving faster than light.

You still haven't shown me any feats to proof that Cap is faster than Thor.

@RyuHayabusa said:

Team 1

Black Adam and Captain Marvel both can fight at super speed.

So can Thor and WW.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@RyuHayabusa said:

Team 1

Black Adam and Captain Marvel both can fight at super speed.

So can Thor and WW.

Captain should be able to match Wonder Woman(they already stalemated). Black Adam was able to go toe to toe with Jay. In strength they are all in same class but Black Adam's speed>Thor's

@RyuHayabusa said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@RyuHayabusa said:

Team 1

Black Adam and Captain Marvel both can fight at super speed.

So can Thor and WW.

Captain should be able to match Wonder Woman(they already stalemated). Black Adam was able to go toe to toe with Jay. In strength they are all in same class but Black Adam's speed>Thor's

Makes sense.

@venomoushatred1001: Not saying Adam or Marvel have nanosecond reaction time, but there is a huge difference between nanoseconds and microseconds and milliseconds.

@Havenless said:

I would go with team 1, but people saying Thor is too slow or a nonfactor are ridiculous

Can he remove the Shazam force?

Thor cannot revert either of them back to their human forms. That takes magical lightning from Shazam.

Their speed doesn't automatically mean Thor's reflexes aren't fast enough to tag/block someone. A classic example of this is Thanos. Thanos is not a speedster, yet he has tagged, blocked, and avoided attacks from people as fast as the Silver Surfer. Thor has also tagged Silver Surfer, proven to outmatch characters like Quicksilver in terms of speed, he has also gone toe to toe with BRB and won (when he had Mjonlir and BRB had Stormbreaker). The reason I bring BRB up is because BRB is a character who has been proven and stated to have nanosecond reaction times, meaning even if we say Thor is not faster than BRB we can infer that he can at the very least compensate for his lower speed with his many other attributes. Not to mention if they are that tough there is a chance Thor could go Warrior Madness on them. I'm going Team 2.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@majestic99 said:

Team 2 wins.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

DC Fanboys are so ignorant -___-

Thor is marvel, not DC.

I knew that.

@jeanroygrant: @czarny_samael666: The point is Captain Marvel, unlike Superman, does not have the feats to prove he has Nanosecond reaction time or that he could blitz Thor, which leads me to believe Thor would beat him due to his versatility.

@_Black said:

@venomoushatred1001: Not saying Adam or Marvel have nanosecond reaction time, but there is a huge difference between nanoseconds and microseconds and milliseconds.

I know.

@_Black said:

@Havenless said:

I would go with team 1, but people saying Thor is too slow or a nonfactor are ridiculous

Can he remove the Shazam force?

Thor cannot revert either of them back to their human forms. That takes magical lightning from Shazam.

Thor has shown the ability to disable enchantments so it is possible he could.

@czarny_samael666 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@RyuHayabusa said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@RyuHayabusa said:

Team 1

Black Adam and Captain Marvel both can fight at super speed.

So can Thor and WW.

Captain should be able to match Wonder Woman(they already stalemated). Black Adam was able to go toe to toe with Jay. In strength they are all in same class but Black Adam's speed>Thor's

Makes sense.

Jay was crushing Adam and there is no reason to belive that Jay was really FTL there. Thor moved that fast in the past, so it isn't an argument agaisnt him.

Thats what I thought.

Until I see ACTUAL proof that Black Adam or Captain Marvel have nanosecond reaction time, my answer is still Team 2 due to versatility.

Giving it to team 2....