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#1 Posted by gumflabica (2240 posts) - - Show Bio

FIGHT 1: Bizarro vs Red Hulk

FIGHT 2: Bizarro vs Red Hulk vs Beta Ray Bill vs Black Adam

each fight has the same rules

takes place in metropolis (they are allowed to leave the area)

they start ontop of lexcorp

they each get 1 week prep

characters are bloodlusted

who wins?

#2 Posted by Pwok21 (2383 posts) - - Show Bio

Rulk wins if he has Loeb Force.

If not then Bizarro for Round One, and Black Adam for Round Two.

#3 Posted by _slim_ (13075 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight 1: Bizarro
Fight 2: I don't know... but it won't be Rulk.

#4 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight One: Bizarro

Fight Two: Black Adam

#5 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

Fight One: Bizarro

Fight Two: Black Adam

Round 1 i agree, but why do you say Black Adam for round 2?

#6 Posted by God_Spawn (37882 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do people give characters prep that have no business getting prep?

Moderator
#7 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Black Adam has beaten the crap out of Alan Scott, Amazo, Martian Manhunter, Jay Garrick, Firestorm, Wonder Woman, Dr. Fate, Power Girl, Eclipso, Hourman (android one), the Teen Titans, the Doom Patrol, and two GL's. That's not even the end of the list.

#8 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
Bizarro would defeat Red Hulk... but this might be a tough fight if Bizarro thinks to himself "Bash Red Guy In Eye Must" instead of utilizing the full extent of his powers.  
Black Adam wins in the Four Way Battle... Horse Face and Stupid Supes could test him though.
#9 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Fight 1: Bizarro Fight 2: I don't know... but it won't be Rulk.

This.

#10 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

Fight One: Bizarro

Fight Two: Black Adam

Round 1 i agree, but why do you say Black Adam for round 2?

Why don't you agree that BA wins round 2?

#11 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mjolnir Wielder said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

Fight One: Bizarro

Fight Two: Black Adam

Round 1 i agree, but why do you say Black Adam for round 2?

Why don't you agree that BA wins round 2?

Bizarro or Beta Ray Bill could probably defeat Adam.

#12 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: Actually neither should be able to beat him.

#13 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@venomoushatred1001: Actually neither should be able to beat him.

Yes, Bill can.

#14 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mjolnir Wielder said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

Fight One: Bizarro

Fight Two: Black Adam

Round 1 i agree, but why do you say Black Adam for round 2?

Why don't you agree that BA wins round 2?

because Bill can beat him

#15 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: I doubt that. Adam has beaten people with better feats than Bill.

#16 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: I doubt that. Adam has beaten people with better feats than Bill.

Like who?

#17 Posted by Nefarious (20325 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: I doubt that. Adam has beaten people with better feats than Bill.

Like who?

Amazo.
#18 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: I doubt that. Adam has beaten people with better feats than Bill.

Like who?

Amazo.

Scans?

#19 Posted by Nefarious (20325 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant: I'll go find it.
#20 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Bizarro

Round 2: Beta Ray Bill

#21 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pwok21 said:

Rulk wins if he has Loeb Force.

If not then Bizarro for Round One, and Black Adam for Round Two.

Loeb Force doesn't exist.

#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

@jeanroygrant: I'll go find it.

Okay.

#23 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: I doubt that. Adam has beaten people with better feats than Bill.

Like who?

Sorry for the late response, but he's beaten the poo out of:

Amazo, Alan Scott, Doctor Fate, Jay Garrick (beat Superman), Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Firestorm (who beat Orion), and Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt.

#24 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8102 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Fight 1: Bizarro Fight 2: I don't know... but it won't be Rulk.

lol

#25 Posted by nickthedevil (12430 posts) - - Show Bio

Uh, wasn't bizarro way faster than Superman? I remember him racing Zoom. Even surprising him with a bear hug. Haven't read the issue myself yet though. Just saw a picture.

#26 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: I doubt that. Adam has beaten people with better feats than Bill.

Like who?

Sorry for the late response, but he's beaten the poo out of:

Amazo, Alan Scott, Doctor Fate, Jay Garrick (beat Superman), Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Firestorm (who beat Orion), and Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt.

Okay, Thor could do the same, and when has Firestorm beat Orion?

#27 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Thor wouldn't stand a chance against Amazo, Alan Scott, Doctor Fate, and Martian Manhunter. The rest would be a good fight.

Anyways, Jason transmuted metal over Orion so tightly, he couldn't move to break free.

#28 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: Thor wouldn't stand a chance against Amazo, Alan Scott, Doctor Fate, and Martian Manhunter. The rest would be a good fight.

Anyways, Jason transmuted metal over Orion so tightly, he couldn't move to break free.

Anyone Adam could beat, Thor can. Thor has all Adams powers, and attributes plus more, and oh

#29 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: That's horrible logic. Just because he has the same powers doesn't mean he's more powerful.

Seriously, that ridiculous logic.

#30 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there goes amazos head. i dont see why its obvious that BRB would beat BA. in a free for all anyone could take it except rulk. but i give it to BA because of his fighting style.

#31 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: That's horrible logic. Just because he has the same powers doesn't mean he's more powerful.

Seriously, that ridiculous logic.

Did i say that? No, you always overrate Black Adam. Thor has every power Black Adam does plus more, so it would mean he's more powerful.

Thor is just as fast, strong, durable, and can fly like Adam

#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGraySon said:

@jeanroygrant: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there goes amazos head. i dont see why its obvious that BRB would beat BA. in a free for all anyone could take it except rulk. but i give it to BA because of his fighting style.

Beta Ray Bill can beat Amazo.

#33 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: probably.. i just put the scan cause you asked for it. depends on what amazo has absorbed

#34 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Actually, yeah you did. Not in the same words, but basically, you did.

Has Thor beat someone as powerful as Alan Scott or Doctor Fate? How about Martian Manhunter? Has he beaten someone as fast as Jay Garrick and Wonder Woman?

@jeanroygrant: Now you're just grasping at straws. You have to be a fool to think that BRB can beat Amazo. Amazo has beaten Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Plastic Man, Firestorm, Superman, the Ray, Orion, and Big Barda at the same time. A lot of those people could beat BRB by themselves.

#35 Posted by Shisho_The_Fist (126 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Thor isn't as fast or strong as adam but durability is about the same. His abilities gives him more options but he can't out muscle adam.

#36 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shisho_The_Fist said:

@jeanroygrant: Thor isn't as fast or strong as adam but durability is about the same. His abilities gives him more options but he can't out muscle adam.

Yeah he is. And Thor is more durable.

#37 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: How? He's certainly slower than him, and in combat, he's stronger. Durability's about equal, too.

#38 Edited by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@NerdsFTW: How? He's certainly slower than him

Thor isn't slower, he just rarely utilizes his speed.

@blackadamFTW said:

and in combat, he's stronger.

Fighting someone doesn't make you stronger.

@blackadamFTW said:

Durability's about equal, too.

Sitting in the core of sun , tanking planet busting blasts, weight akin to that of a neutron sar, withstanding attacks from the Celestials, etc., puts Thor's durability above BA's.

#39 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: That still doesn't make him faster. BA's still faster.

Fighting people who are more powerful than Thor with basically your speed and strength does.

Having something multiple times stronger than an a bomb blow up in your head and survive. Also, Black Adam has taken planet busters before.

#40 Edited by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@NerdsFTW: That still doesn't make him faster. BA's still faster.

Show me scans of BA's combat speed being as fast as lightning.

@blackadamFTW said:

Fighting people who are more powerful than Thor with basically your speed and strength does.

No it doesn't. It just means he relies on his strength and speed more. Just because Thor relies on mjolnir for versatility in fights doesn't mean he isn't strong.

@blackadamFTW said:

Black Adam has taken planet busters before.

Great, but I said Thor has taken planet busting attacks, and has taken on planet busters.

#41 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 : Red Hulk

Round 2:Beta Ray Bill 

#42 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: He dodges his own lightning all the time. That proves he's not as fast as lightning, but faster.

Also, after Jay stole some of his speed, he was still clocked at Mach 500. That's about 100,000 mph faster than lightning.

#43 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@NerdsFTW: He dodges his own lightning all the time. That proves he's not as fast as lightning, but faster.

Thor has tagged Surfer before. So Thor won't have a problem with BA's speed.

@blackadamFTW said:

@NerdsFTW: He dodges his own lightning all the time. That proves he's not as fast as lightning, but faster.

Also, after Jay stole some of his speed, he was still clocked at Mach 500. That's about 100,000 mph faster than lightning.

Refer to above point. Surfer is much, much , much faster than lightning, and even light.

#44 Posted by Shisho_The_Fist (126 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: Thor didn't tag surfer while he was going at his fastest, not near his fastest, so unless thats all your going on it isn't helping your argument. Also, don't get surfers combat speed and traveling speed confused. The fact is does thor have the ability to consistently react to BA. His reaction speed is what you need to be worrying about

#45 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: IIRC, he was fighting a Surfer who didn't want to fight him. Also, Hulk has tagged Surfer, so that's not that impressive.

#46 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shisho_The_Fist said:

@NerdsFTW: Thor didn't tag surfer while he was going at his fastest, not near his fastest, so unless thats all your going on it isn't helping your argument. Also, don't get surfers combat speed and traveling speed confused. The fact is does thor have the ability to consistently react to BA. His reaction speed is what you need to be worrying about

Thor did tagged Surfer(while Surfer was moving), nonetheless. And exactly what is BA's reaction speed?

@blackadamFTW said:

@NerdsFTW: IIRC, he was fighting a Surfer who didn't want to fight him. Also, Hulk has tagged Surfer, so that's not that impressive.

I was referring to when Surfer did want to fight Thor.

And noone answered my question: How is BA going to counter Thor's versatility?

#47 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: Actually, yeah you did. Not in the same words, but basically, you did.

Has Thor beat someone as powerful as Alan Scott or Doctor Fate? How about Martian Manhunter? Has he beaten someone as fast as Jay Garrick and Wonder Woman?

@jeanroygrant: Now you're just grasping at straws. You have to be a fool to think that BRB can beat Amazo. Amazo has beaten Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Plastic Man, Firestorm, Superman, the Ray, Orion, and Big Barda at the same time. A lot of those people could beat BRB by themselves.

So your basically implying Black Adam, could beat all those people Amazo did than? Why can't Beta Ray Billl beat Amazo? Yes Thor has beat people more powerful than Alan Scott, and Dr.Fate. Thor has beaten Silver Surfer who is faster than Jay Garrick, and Wonder Woman.

#48 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGraySon said:

@jeanroygrant: probably.. i just put the scan cause you asked for it. depends on what amazo has absorbed

Ok

#49 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: He's beaten five people on that list already, so he probably could. Why can't BRB beat Amazo? He's exponentially slower, he's not as strong, and Amazo would just absorb his powers, and whoop his ass with his own Stormbreaker.

Give me some scans of Thor beating Silver Surfer. I'd love to see them.

#50 Edited by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: He's beaten five people on that list already, so he probably could. Why can't BRB beat Amazo? He's exponentially slower, he's not as strong, and Amazo would just absorb his powers, and whoop his ass with his own Stormbreaker.

Give me some scans of Thor beating Silver Surfer. I'd love to see them.

:( <3 SS

BRB isn't fast enough. Strong enough. Durable enough to contend with Black Adam.

1. I think Red Hulk

2. Black Adam rips all them all to pieces.

@jeanroygrant: SS combat speed is no where near as fast as Jays. Not only that but, Black Adam kept up with Jay in the speed force while fighting BRB isn't coming close to that.