Bills from Battle of Gods
- Bloodlust On
- Morals Off
- No BFR
- No Prep
His opponents
- Standard versions
- Bloodlust On
- Morals Off
- No BFR
- No Prep
Not sure how he'd do against Gogeta whose a reality warper.
Not sure how he'd do against Gogeta whose a reality warper.
4:18
He creates those things out of nowhere. Silly and insignificant, but still that's the only thing remotely similar to reality warping in Dragonball that I remember.
@jan_valker: -_-
1. I guess he could've manifested ki into a party popper? I mean, it's been turned into dragons and discs, so why not a party popper? You even see a flash of light before it appears.
2. That's more magic trick than reality manipulation.
3. You've reminded me of how lame that fight was, and what PIS it was that the only reason he didn't just kill Shenron is because he was too busy goofing off and didn't realize his time in that fusion was much more limited. At least when something like that happened in the past, it made sense for the character (see Vegeta letting Cell achieve perfection, or Gohan toying with Cell before Cell gets desperate, kills Goku, and then comes back stronger). SSJ Gogeta was ultra-serious, so why is SSJ4 Gogeta a dumb prankster? Goku doesn't pull pranks when he fights, so when you add in the serious, prideful, fighting-focused Vegeta, how in the world do you get a dumb fool?
Sorry for the long rant. Lol.
@jan_valker: -_-
1. I guess he could've manifested ki into a party popper? I mean, it's been turned into dragons and discs, so why not a party popper? You even see a flash of light before it appears.
2. That's more magic trick than reality manipulation.
3. You've reminded me of how lame that fight was, and what PIS it was that the only reason he didn't just kill Shenron is because he was too busy goofing off and didn't realize his time in that fusion was much more limited. At least when something like that happened in the past, it made sense for the character (see Vegeta letting Cell achieve perfection, or Gohan toying with Cell before Cell gets desperate, kills Goku, and then comes back stronger). SSJ Gogeta was ultra-serious, so why is SSJ4 Gogeta a dumb prankster? Goku doesn't pull pranks when he fights, so when you add in the serious, prideful, fighting-focused Vegeta, how in the world do you get a dumb fool?
Sorry for the long rant. Lol.
I completely agree. The whole DB GT is people stronger then their opponents wasting time instead of one shotting them.
As for the reality warping thing, yeah, it's shaki, but it's the proof that his powers exceed simple combat (and the fact that we're using party poppers as feat is the ultimate proof of the suckyness of GT).
SSJ3 means absolutely nothing to Bills (less than nothing, Bills 2-shotted Goku with pokes), and SSJ4 can't be more than, like, 10-15x (being generous) stronger than SSJ3. With Baby Vegeta and Super 17 around the same league as SSJ4, I'd say Bills would definitly clear the first four rounds.
After that, I dunno. I'd have to know how strong SSJG is compared to SSJ3, and then the real multipliers for SSJ3->SSJ4. From that official interview, I know SSJG Goku is a 6 with Bilis a 10 (he fought at 70%, so 6 vs 7).
But my guess: Omega Shenron would be a decent challenge, but Bills would still clear. Gogeta SSJ4 would maybe be too much, but if Bills can outlast the fusion, he'll win.
@eggnogui: the problem being is goku at base in gt is as strong as end of z ssj3 goku. So the multipliers increase the power even more.
But regardless bills stomps. He could probably take them all on at once due to the way dbz works in the whole I'm stronger than you, you can't even damage me.
But regardless bills stomps. He could probably take them all on at once due to the way dbz works in the whole I'm stronger than you, you can't even damage me.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NNONONONONONONONONONOONONONONOONONNO.
No.
Jmarshmallow
Clears easily. GT is alternate universe where saiyans are much weaker than original universe. Bills annihilates all the opponents. None of them won't be able to detect God Ki
He stops at 3 realistically.
No counter to God Ki. They can't even detect Bills. His power is on a different league
@josephgomes619: The movie was terrible.... The plot made little to no sense. Beerus, and Godku had literal poor showings... A pissed off SSj2 Vegeta was able to hurt Beerus and make Beerus surprised...
Like I said REALISTICALLY... Stops at 3...
Toriyama needs to let the series die.
@josephgomes619: The movie was terrible.... The plot made little to no sense. Beerus, and Godku had literal poor showings... A pissed off SSj2 Vegeta was able to hurt Beerus and make Beerus surprised...
Like I said REALISTICALLY... Stops at 3...
Toriyama needs to let the series die.
That was rage boost which is pretty common in DBZ. Most characters can power up drastically for a limited period. Vegeta got knocked out in 1 hit as soon as his rage went down
I agree BoG was pretty bad...but only a God can beat another God. GT doesn't have any God. It hasn't been revealed how much stronger is a SSJG than a SSJ3, until it's revealed Bills stomps by having God Ki
Clears easily. GT is alternate universe where saiyans are much weaker than original universe. Bills annihilates all the opponents. None of them won't be able to detect God Ki
That is an untrue and baseless claim my friend.
Jmarshmallow
He stops at 3 realistically.
No counter to God Ki. They can't even detect Bills. His power is on a different league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEbG49_Zkc
Oh look... he made a God bleed..... How is he countering the god-ki? How is a SSJ 2 Vegeta even amounting that power when SSJ3 Goku couldn't? Logically from the ABC powers of DBZ, Vegeta should have transformed right then and there to SSJ3 but didn't... Then Master Roshi's horrible hyperbole came out "He's even stronger than Goku."
Hyperbole Ball Z
DBZ is literally the biggest inconsistent anime on the planet. I loved me some DBZ when I was a kid, should have never revisited it. It's pretty damn bad.
This movie literally does what the whole show and manga proceeded to do... Make no sense, have more holes than a detroit road, and at the end of the day it's just there to make wax eyed fans squeeee.
I like DBZ pre-android saga... everything after Freiza made no sense, and proceeded to get worse by the second, and this is coming from someone who's favorite character is a movie villain.
Clears easily. GT is alternate universe where saiyans are much weaker than original universe. Bills annihilates all the opponents. None of them won't be able to detect God Ki
That is an untrue and baseless claim my friend.
Jmarshmallow
Prove your point.
@mortal: Me?
Jmarshmallow
@mortal: Me?
Jmarshmallow
Yeah.
Clears easily. GT is alternate universe where saiyans are much weaker than original universe. Bills annihilates all the opponents. None of them won't be able to detect God Ki
That is an untrue and baseless claim my friend.
Jmarshmallow
Prove your point.
It was never said that DBGT was an alternate universe... The 13 universe claim that Beerus said in Gods was a nod to there being 13 DBZ movies. That's more logical to assume than to assume GT being an alternate universe.
GT is widely considered non-canon to Z, which I agree, because it sucked... but, the story literally picks up after Z.... Same powers, same power levels, etc.
Goku GT > Manga Goku it's known, it's accepted.
Beerus isn't touching round 3 with a ten foot pole.
SSJ2 Vegeta hurt, and drew blood from Beerus...... lol there's no way Beerus is beating Goku at 4.
@mortal: My "point" was that his statement was false.
GT characters aren't an alternate universe, and they're stronger than DBZ, not the other way around.
Jmarshmallow
He loses most. He compared ssj god to 85% of his power. Ssj4 is stronger than that significantly. At least on paper.
@xbleeding_edgex: You don't understand anything
@mortal: My "point" was that his statement was false.
GT characters aren't an alternate universe, and they're stronger than DBZ, not the other way around.
Jmarshmallow
But GT was basically a side-story irrelevant to DBZ...
@xbleeding_edgex: You don't understand anything
Riveting argument chap, your sheer ability to use points, and facts are astonishing.
10/10 will read again.
#butthurtfanboy
@mortal: My "point" was that his statement was false.
GT characters aren't an alternate universe, and they're stronger than DBZ, not the other way around.
Jmarshmallow
Bills and Whis have never been mentioned in GT. Majin Buu was mentioned to compare between enemies. Bills, SSJG Goku and WHis >>>>> Majin Buu or any other DBZ character
Goku could never go God mode in GT. Why not? Because it's a non-canon alternate universe. SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Gohan in Wrath of the Dragon. In the original timeline it's totally opposite
@mortal: My "point" was that his statement was false.
GT characters aren't an alternate universe, and they're stronger than DBZ, not the other way around.
Jmarshmallow
Bills and Whis have never been mentioned in GT. Majin Buu was mentioned to compare between enemies. Bills, SSJG Goku and WHis >>>>> Majin Buu or any other DBZ character
Goku could never go God mode in GT. Why not? Because it's a non-canon alternate universe. SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Gohan in Wrath of the Dragon. In the original timeline it's totally opposite
and I'm the one who doesn't understand anything....
DBZ ended in 1989.... GT started and ended in 1997... Battle of Gods came out in 2013....
That's why God, Whis, and Beerus aren't mentioned in GT.
Fact remains he stops at 3.
@xbleeding_edgex: I never planned on debating in this thread to begin with. I came in and saw a butthurt guy going off at people. I thought responding to you would be funny. You didn't disappoint. 10/10
@xbleeding_edgex: I never planned on debating in this thread to begin with. I came in and saw a butthurt guy going off at people. I thought responding to you would be funny. You didn't disappoint. 10/10
Oh, so you don't have a life... I fully understand now.
@xbleeding_edgex: Lets not fight. We are both iron man fans.
@mortal: My "point" was that his statement was false.
GT characters aren't an alternate universe, and they're stronger than DBZ, not the other way around.
Jmarshmallow
But GT was basically a side-story irrelevant to DBZ...
Side-story? It was a continuation mate. Basically the equivalent of a sequel.
Jmarshmallow
Bills and Whis have never been mentioned in GT. Majin Buu was mentioned to compare between enemies. Bills, SSJG Goku and WHis >>>>> Majin Buu or any other DBZ character
Goku could never go God mode in GT. Why not? Because it's a non-canon alternate universe.
Lol no. It's because Battle of the Gods was made almost 20 years after GT. So of course they're not mentioned.
Based on power levels and clear feats, it's made very obvious that GT characters are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DBZ characters.
Adding "God" to the title of a transformation doesn't mean anything if it doesn't have the substantial feats to back it up.
SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Gohan in Wrath of the Dragon. In the original timeline it's totally opposite
That's because SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Gohan.
Jmarshmallow
Stop posting anime threads already, so much hate on this site because they are scared that Superman obviously loses easily to this dbz characters :P
Stop posting anime threads already, so much hate on this site because they are scared that Superman obviously loses easily to this dbz characters :P
There is no Superman in this thread.
@xbleeding_edgex: The fact that Bills is not mentioned in GT is enough proof that GT isn't canon, otherwise Majin Buu wouldn't be mentioned as a base to gauge power level of character
Even with feats, Bills solos. He can fight in space. He blows up the planet from space
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