Beyonder vs. Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, Galactus and LT
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"Beyonder has no chance in hell "
I heard that beyonder is somewhere on the same level as TOAA, but just from a different reality.
if iy's pre retcon beyonder he has already defeated them all if it's retcon beyonder he gets stomped by any one of them
PR Beyonder was stated to be more powerful than all of them (except Oblivion; don't know who that is and he wasn't in SWII).
Read Secret Wars II. At one point the cosmic beings, including Eternity and Living Tribunal, are begging Molecule Man to help save them from the Beyonder. At one point he also eliminates Death.
"I thought that the most he ever got was nigh omnipotent, like the LT "
@stafikking:
Actually LT wasn't even on Molecule Man level(PR)
And Molecule Man stated himself that it seemed is as if I was more powerful than he could ever imagine
Beyonder was MILLIONS of times more powerful than the entire Marvel continuity.
Who do you think wins?
"I thought that the LT was second only to TOAA "LT is second to TOAA in the current continuity of Marvel due to Retcons of Molecule Man and the Beyonder character.
@stafikking:
The point of the original Beyonder story was to represent that each different comic book continuity i.e marvel,dc,image has their own power ranking sytem ,and may have thier own omnipotent beings such as TOAA,The Presence,and the Man of Miracles.The Marvel character the Beyonder was a mavel character but not supposed to be actually apart of the Marvel reality to futher show the purpose of the story.Since Beyonder and TOAA were both now in the marvel reality the company later retconned him to a cosmic cube(and then again to be a mutant inhuman).This way there would only be one omnipotent being in marvel instead of two.Beyonder and TOAA would logically be equal but it is commonly believed that TOAA would win.(Mostly from assumptions of the name The One Above All.)<-----this leads to arguements you may see frequently on the vine the usually sound like:"He's called the One Above ALL not the One Above All except for one." Alot of people who make posts like that(notice I said alot not all) haven't a clue about the reason of the original story.This doesn't really make them stupid not just as well informed or open to other points of veiw in relation to the original secret war story.
Is this Pre-Retcon Beyonder? If so, FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, HE WILL WIN. He's at TOAA level. It doesn't matter how many cosmics you put on one team. He surpasses ALL of them in power.
Pre-Retcon Beyonder, along with all other supreme deities in comics (Presence, TOAA, MoM, Thanos with HOTU, etc.) should be banned from the Battles Forum, as any fight they're in will end with either a) The deity horribly wailing on their opponent(s), or b) a stalemate
If not, Anyone of Team 2 could brutally kick his ass like he was a soccer ball
Supposedly Beyonder retconned himself and thus is still at pre-retconn levels if he wants to be. Just for future reference. ;)
Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Jim Shooter, or so I've heard/read somewhere, who was the writer AND Editor-in-Chief at the time.
That makes PR Beyonder>>TOAA, who is only the avatar of the writer.
Them in their strongest forms? Then Pre-Retcon Beyonder solos.
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