Better Martial Artist: Wolverine (No berserker style) vs Batman

This is an interesting battle.It's hard to really decide who of the two is the better martial artist since the one is said to have mastered around 127 different martial arts and the other one has been around for a couple of centuries also mastering martial arts.But my vote here would go to Batman.

As much as impressive Logan is he has never fully shown his martial arts abilitties as much as Batman and it is hard to defend him by saying that he is simply better when he has never shown what he is really capable of.We know that he is a good h2h fighter but nothhing more than that since there aren't many showings of his that imply such a thing.While Batman on the other hand has been proving to us with every single issue through the years that he is one of the best h2h fighters in DC and in comics in general.

So with lesser words : Batman is the better fighter.

What do you mean by this? Wolverine has done many a things that show how great a martial artist he is when he wants to. Just looking at recent showings from around 2010-2013, he put down a class 100+ Stronation with his index finger via a pressure point, he outperformed Silver Samurai in a sword fight and even pointed out flaws in his form to boot, he beat Daken using a sword while holding back, he WTF stomped Daken and drowned him to boot when he stopped holding back, he's WTF stomped Sabretooth six consecutive times pre Paul Cornell, he defeated the ancient martial artist Murderous Lion while having his knowledge severely decreased dur to mind tampering by Doctor Rot, he destroyed the Black Dragon Death Sqaud in Manifest Destiny, and he used stealth to break into the United Nations unseen for Cyclops in Schism. This is all literally from 2010-2012, and doesn't go into Wolverine's showings from older era which are more numerous.

Your argument for Batman being superior to Wolverine martially revolves around the idea that Batman uses his skill more often. The problem is, no one would disagree with you on that considering that Logan has been called lazy in regards to use of his martial skill a couple of times now, and the thread question isn't "Batman vs Wolverine" Whom uses their martial talent more consistently?". The thread simply asked whom is the better martial artist, and when Logan has actually decided to use his skill, he has a plethora of showings that demonstrate that he is in Bruce's league.

Logan may even be above Bruce's league but he just doesn't show it that often and people tend to forget when he does it so no one ever backs him up in such threads unlike you(which is pretty normal since you are a die hard fan of Logan.I am a fan as well but not like you) and god_spawn as well.Wolverine doesn't often realy on skill and that is my problem because when he does it simply doesn't seem like something that impressive as what Bruce does(it is not like he amazes us with something new every issue but you get what i mean).Wolverine has a lot more experience with stuff like that but he barely shows his skills,he relies more on other means to put someone down via the claws and his speed.

Fair enough mate.

@wolverine08: I wasn't expecting this discussion to end up so quickly. LOL :P

@wolverine08: You hate God_Spawn don't you?It's understandable. Soon Logan will hang with the big boys...

Pft! GS idolizes me!

@wolverine08: More like the other way around :P.Logan is in the slums.When Logan is faster than Thor,then we'll talk...

Batman is more skilled than Logan in the martial arts. In the MU a guy that can have the same level in the martial arts of Batman is Iron Fist.

@reaverlation: hasnt he tagged thor easily, and thor stated that he was faster than him. Its constantly used to show how slow thor is.

As far as natural Martial arts skill goes , Batman has feats that go beyond Wolverine in terms of damage output relative to normal damage capacity. PIS like one shorting Wonder Woman aside, Batman has dealt serious damage to things that should not feel anything from human strikes. He has absolutely wrecked para demons. He has fought amazons. Cracked bazooka proof glass, kicked through solid steel doors. And numerous other martial arts feats while still being allegedly peak human.

Including his demonstrated damage soak and stamina as martial arts skills should put the full scope of his ability into focus.

Logan is a superhuman. With superhuman strength, speed, adamantium, and healing factor. His martial arts feats have also been great. But his superhuman stats multiply the results of his technique in all areas. Without the claws, wolverine has superior striking power, due to his superhumanly strong bones and muscles. Batman's best strikes can phase 5-10 ton class para demons. His weapon mastery can cleave through Apokolips Doomsday clones. We also know that Batman does not kill, limiting his damage output against humans considerably.

While I give Wolverine a serious edge in a martial arts fight between the two in any scenario, I also feel that in terms of raw skills employed on panel, Batman has the edge.

Logan's powerset makes him the superior martial arts fighter. Bruce's demonstrated skill feats make him the best pure martial artist.

@senglord: Batman's best strikes can phase 5-10 ton class para demons

Really?

@alexander505: what about BP

Batman

Batman...

Bruce, but it’s real close