orion.
beta ray bill vs orion
@heraldofganthet said:
what are a few of Orions reaction speed feats?
Oh man. He's got quite a few actually. From both an assortment of New Gods tales as well as his own solo series. I haven't a clue what he's doing in the Post-Flashpoint DCU, but beforehand he was easily able to blitz on foot all but the fastest DC top tiers. Hmm...
Hey @ancient_0f_days, would you mind pulling up just a couple of really cool combat speed/reaction time feats for the Wolf of New Genesis? Let's get the word out that Orion is no slow putz, on foot or otherwise!
I got u man, you already know what it is.....
Gallery
Here's him dodging AND deflecting the Omega Beams after they're fired....
Just so everyone knows, this fight was a bit staged since Darkseid allowed himself to lose. Not saying he hasn't been hit with his own OB before but it was made plain and clear when he resurfaced and said so himself, then resurrected Orion and sat his ass down like a boy needin a whoopin (cosmic parenting 101). I have the whole fight btw but this was most impressive concerning Orions speed...
@czarny_samael666 said:
1.They are bloodlusted here. I see Orion and BRB just going fast at each other and then start brawl. But if -IF - Orion will try throwing punches fast, there is no reason why BRB wouldn't respond with similar speed, since he has it. In such a brawl, I don't see planet surviving BRB's strikes and Orion doesn't have feats putting him on planet+ level of durability.
2.Difference between these people is that BRB and Thor doesn't just share the same source of power, but perfectly the same stats and powers. Mjolnir and Stormbreaker are the same and both gives thier wielders power of Thor. Either can win with the other only because of their will to win (bloodlust) or by circumstances of the fight. Power Cosmic is source of power to Surfer and Terrax, but they're not equal. BRB has all power and stats Thor has, because his hammer gives him it. In character - neither is a speedster, because neither use it usually, but we're not talking about typical fight in character here.
3.They exxhanged 2-3 punches before other heroes came there, it isn't like they had a long fight that could be used here in the same way Thor doesn't get a feat from fighting Thanos currently nor weakned Hercules by fightin Mindless Hulk for some time, since other characters were involved on their side.
4.BRB has his hammer here, so it would be pointless to not use his feats with it here.
I'm guessing you missed or completely disregarded this....
@ancient_0f_days said:
The fact that you even put Orion and Brawl in the same sentence shows me just how much you actually know about him. I'm not saying he doesn't brawl at or or has never brawled, but Orion is a skilled fighter and has shown so throughout his comics. I don't care how you see it since your opinion is skewed anyway. BRB cannot respond to Orion's speed similarly because he does not possess those feats of CONSISTENT super speed and just because you say he has the same powers as Thor, who is CONSISTENTLY around the same reaction speed as street levelers and only has ONE micro-second reaction feat which holds as much weight as Hyperion's ONE nano-second reaction speed feat (based on their consistent showings, not much weight), doesn't mean he's somehow magically on Orion's consistent level of super speed. You have nothing to prove he is and your strawman argument is gone. BRB doesn't just throw out planet level strikes, but given the fact that Orion has no sold antimatter, has a healing factor and a motherbox, that wont be a problem.....you and your planet busting benchmark.....anyway, Orion has astro force fields that blocked beta club blasts and Darkseids omega beams, even if they somehow don't stand up to BRBs unholy magically powas...he can simply blitz him and be done with it....
I'm not even going to get into how you make BRB and Thor out to be the same but in any case....you're completely wrong about neither being a speedster in character .... I don't need to explain why cus there are 19 scans above these words to do that for me.
They exchanged around 10 actually, I'm looking at the scans right now...and while the fight itself was short the fact that they are casually knocking each other around the planet boasts not only their strength but durability. Not to mention but Superman is SUNBOOSTED going ALL OUT and Orion is holding back practically letting himself get walloped on by this amped pissed Superman cus he can take it, on top of the fact that he's gone toe to toe with Superman and people on his level more than a few times who can take planet level attacks and harm them while taking the same punishment, I'm pretty sure he can take a "planet busting" attack from BRB as well as give them back, considering he almost destroyed the surface of Apokolips with his Astro force alone. If not, sheilds, motherbox etc...
You didn't even understand what I meant by my second to last statement, I'm only mentioning that one planet busting feat that he needed to "hammer and nail" a planet to accomplish. He may have his hammer but he doesn't go around busting planets in his fights but only one time, same like how Thor did to him once. One time feats barely hold weight when characters have over 15 years of existence....Thor's been around for over 50 years, BRB's been around for almost over 30 years....they have enough consistent battle feats to suggest that those one time feats are too inconsistent to be the most relevant thing in a debate.....
Anyway, moving on...Orion wins.
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