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Beta Ray Bill vs John Stewart
There is no way BRB beat Bill not in this life time. John got too much feats in speed power and will to defeat Bill .
I think Bill wins, he doesn't job around like Thor. He is smart enough to go for the energy drain. Plus Bill is more durable than Thor if you get to blast him and get close he can soak a hell of a lot of punishment. If you get close to John he's just a man ready to go splat.
Plus Lanterns don't have many speed feats
I believe John Stewart would kill Thor though, Thor just doesn't fight smart anymore
but a guy like Bill with morals off would win
"John speed is greater than Beta ray any day . There are a few scans of john speed . if
I think Bill wins, he doesn't job around like Thor. He is smart enough to go for the energy drain. Plus Bill is more durable than Thor if you get to blast him and get close he can soak a hell of a lot of punishment. If you get close to John he's just a man ready to go splat.Plus Lanterns don't have many speed feats
I believe John Stewart would kill Thor though, Thor just doesn't fight smart anymore
but a guy like Bill with morals off would win
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"Are you serious?
I think Bill wins, he doesn't job around like Thor. He is smart enough to go for the energy drain. Plus Bill is more durable than Thor if you get to blast him and get close he can soak a hell of a lot of punishment. If you get close to John he's just a man ready to go splat.Plus Lanterns don't have many speed feats
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I think John will put of a great fight compared to a lot of other Lanterns, but I'm confident Bill can get through his shielding and his constructs.
And use Stormbreaker to eat up the actually pew pew beams.
I think he has a good shot.
" @Hoboseid said:"If you get close to John hes just a man ready to go splat?I await the day you pick up your first Green Lantern comic.Lanterns have no speed feats?Since they change out Lanterns every time they have to go to another planet because they die of old age."
Yes he GOES SPLAT
I mean imtimately close, like fist in gut, hammer in face. Lanterns by their nature are mortal human beings protected by the ring's shielding. The ring's contructions have be shattered broke, the rings barriers have been shattered broke, the rinsg shielding has been shattered broke
and once you get past a Lanterns defenses they are pretty mortal, they even got killed off like ninjas once Geoffcon started showing how vulnerable they can be
Bill and Thor can create shielding too but most of the time they don't bother blocking or shielding, that's because these hammer boys have insane durablity, they don't need to bother sheilding or blocking. They have walked on suns and taken shots from Cosmic Abstracts, blasts and hits right in to their face and battered eachother into a bloody mess and still come back for round 2
Bill has an insane damage soak
Lanterns don't, when you get past their shield and get close
THEY GO SPLAT
" @Hoboseid said:"Lanterns have no speed feats?Since they change out Lanterns every time they have to go to another planet because they die of old age."
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They don't have good reactions compared to say Superman and Wonder Woman or Heralds who themselves have insane reaction feats and many FTL feats
I admit over the years Lanterns have some showings that make them fast but compared to some of the other A-Listers they Lanetrns look slow
Yes I said the Lanterns are they SLOW
Horseface Killah A.K.A. Beta Ray Bill for the win. Though, he may not have the speed of John, Bill has more than enough, strength, durability, and power to take John down. BRB has fought heralds of Galactus on even footing(Stardust and Surfer to a lesser degree). He's destroyed planets with relative ease, and had the knowledge to bring Galactus to his knees(which is a feat. He might not have had the power to fight the Big G, but he figured out how to weaken the Devourer.) Its gonna be a long tough fight, but once Bill gets past John's shielding, he'll crush John's soft, chewy center with Stormbreaker. Two of my favorite characters in a fight, but I got to go with Bill
Wow, i love this fight. BRB would most likely win, but insane fight. i just believe in BRB better than i believe in John.
BRB he could technically absorb energy from the ring, but even if he cant he still wins in a long hard battle, harder than the fight with Guy for sure
Make no mistake, Beta Ray Bill is a badass, & he'd give John a hell of a fight, but unless he is able to drain the ring's power, he's no match for a Green Lantern. BRB's power set is a finite one, impressive, though it may be. Stewart has anything he can imagine at his disposal. The guy destroyed a planet. Pretty sure he can take on Bill.
john stewart from comics but if animated beta ray bill because john no show his real powers in animatedAnimated?Why bring up animation?That's pretty random and meaningless.
@PunkMastaFlex said:
People are seriously downgrading BOTH sides.
Agreed
BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
BRB will BFR to other dimension.
He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.
@termiteone4ever said:I can see your argument with brute force but its not enough to take john down. Lets talk about possibilities .. Both characters can drain . Green lantern powers may be limited but comics didnt set any limit on the drain either. Now this is a Fact john will is high enough to take down Beta ray and the constructs and fighting ability speed on John should be more than match to take down bill. If there is no morals John stomps. Again BFR doesnt work on green lanterns.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
@termiteone4ever said:In what ways is Johns energy limited?@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
How or when has it been stated that BRB has unlimited Energy?
How is BRB draining him?
When has BRB used his hammer to teleport others to another dimension?
@termiteone4ever said:Do you happen to have a scan of BRB draining someone. Also for the dimension banishment, I'd like to see the logistics of it.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
@czarny_samael said:@termiteone4ever said:Do you happen to have a scan of BRB draining someone. Also for the dimension banishment, I'd like to see the logistics of it.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
I do. BRB=<Thor:
Absorbs Mags sheilds:
Absorbs a galaxy destroying bomb:
Absorbs yellow sunlight energy and redirects at at vampires:
Drains Kang:
Absorbs Thanos' attack and redirects it 1000x:
Absorbs Glory's attack and redirects it to kill him:
Green lanterns have access to their battery at any time to recharge
After BRB drains him, he would probably kill/knock him unconcious before that thought would ever cross his mind.
I do not believe that Thor or BRB could actually use their hammers to drain the energy of a GL ring directly from their ring.
Absorb their energy blasts directed at them probably but not extract the energy.
Nothing in the Marvel universe can compare to a GL ring and few things in DC have been shown to drain a power ring (mostly other rings or manhunters).
I do not believe that Thor or BRB could actually use their hammers to drain the energy of a GL ring directly from their ring. Absorb their energy blasts directed at them probably but not extract the energy. Nothing in the Marvel universe can compare to a GL ring and few things in DC have been shown to drain a power ring (mostly other rings or manhunters).
Thor has drained energy that wasn't directly aim at him before:
@Kallarkz said:So this scan shows Thor having the ability to absorb energy from any source?I do not believe that Thor or BRB could actually use their hammers to drain the energy of a GL ring directly from their ring. Absorb their energy blasts directed at them probably but not extract the energy. Nothing in the Marvel universe can compare to a GL ring and few things in DC have been shown to drain a power ring (mostly other rings or manhunters).
Thor has energy that wasn't directly aim at him before:
Other beings have been shown to absorb energy from different sources in the DC Universe yet they did not show the ability to absorb the power of a GL Ring.
Argue what can actually be proven As in strength, speed feats, durability.
Thor draining a GL Ring is pure assumption.
Make no mistake, Beta Ray Bill is a badass, & he'd give John a hell of a fight, but unless he is able to drain the ring's power, he's no match for a Green Lantern
LMAO, suuuurrrrrreeeeee....
Draining not even needed, John is simple overmatched here
@czarny_samael said:1.He can use his hammer in the same ways Thor can. And he used that power in Annihilators to open portal to Limbo.@termiteone4ever said:In what ways is Johns energy limited? How or when has it been stated that BRB has unlimited Energy? How is BRB draining him? When has BRB used his hammer to teleport others to another dimension?@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
2.BRB depends on magic. No one ever drained energy from his hammer, because it uses magic. You would have to unable it to use magic.
3.Rings are limited. Only Kyle's isn't IIRC.
@termiteone4ever said:
@czarny_samael said:@termiteone4ever said:I can see your argument with brute force but its not enough to take john down. Lets talk about possibilities .. Both characters can drain . Green lantern powers may be limited but comics didnt set any limit on the drain either. Now this is a Fact john will is high enough to take down Beta ray and the constructs and fighting ability speed on John should be more than match to take down bill. If there is no morals John stomps. Again BFR doesnt work on green lanterns.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
1.This is not a fact that John could take BRB. It is exaclty opposite. Without morals BRB stomps.
2.Did John ever used his ring to make portals to other dimensions?
3.Both can drain, but John's energy is limited, ergo BRB can drain him.
@vuviper said:
@czarny_samael said:@termiteone4ever said:Do you happen to have a scan of BRB draining someone. Also for the dimension banishment, I'd like to see the logistics of it.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
Thor used it in few ways. One is just opening portals, second is beam from his hammer that do this, thrid is making something close (in way of appearing ) to black hole, which can suck all people that Thor doesn't want on the field. The last was used in his fight with Durok, the sceond against Loki, first many times, ones against Mangog.
@Kallarkz said:Draining is just a assumption Ca who is a way better drainer then BRB or Thor could not do it then they cant either.@czarny_samael said:1.He can use his hammer in the same ways Thor can. And he used that power in Annihilators to open portal to Limbo.@termiteone4ever said:In what ways is Johns energy limited? How or when has it been stated that BRB has unlimited Energy? How is BRB draining him? When has BRB used his hammer to teleport others to another dimension?@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
2.BRB depends on magic. No one ever drained energy from his hammer, because it uses magic. You would have to unable it to use magic.
3.Rings are limited. Only Kyle's isn't IIRC.
@termiteone4ever said:@czarny_samael said:@termiteone4ever said:I can see your argument with brute force but its not enough to take john down. Lets talk about possibilities .. Both characters can drain . Green lantern powers may be limited but comics didnt set any limit on the drain either. Now this is a Fact john will is high enough to take down Beta ray and the constructs and fighting ability speed on John should be more than match to take down bill. If there is no morals John stomps. Again BFR doesnt work on green lanterns.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
1.This is not a fact that John could take BRB. It is exaclty opposite. Without morals BRB stomps.
2.Did John ever used his ring to make portals to other dimensions?
3.Both can drain, but John's energy is limited, ergo BRB can drain him.
@vuviper said:@czarny_samael said:Thor used it in few ways. One is just opening portals, second is beam from his hammer that do this, thrid is making something close (in way of appearing ) to black hole, which can suck all people that Thor doesn't want on the field. The last was used in his fight with Durok, the sceond against Loki, first many times, ones against Mangog.@termiteone4ever said:Do you happen to have a scan of BRB draining someone. Also for the dimension banishment, I'd like to see the logistics of it.@czarny_samael said:John's energy is limitted - BRB's isn't. BRB will drain him. BRB will BFR to other dimension. He is beating him. In normal brute fight, BRB wins.BRB in normal fight. With drainning it is a stomp. The same with BFR.Where do you get this Drain possibility when the green lanterns are capable of the same .He is not beating John. HOw are you going to BFR a green lantern who can Go almost anywhere.I am not seen that happening . John isnt going to lose to Beta
Seeing how even powerful energy absorbers have not been seen to absorb a Green Lanterns ring energy from its ring and how Thor has not stated or been seen to drain energy from any source I do not believe that Thor or BRB can simply drain a Green Lantern ring.
"Thor drains him" appears to be becoming as common as "Iceman freezes him" even though there has been no evidence to display that Iceman could do this to a being with heightened durability (though what he can do does not apply to this thread).
Lets compare durability, strength and speed feats that are fact. Assumptions never help.
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