Lilandra's ordered Glads to kill Bill. Gladiator's confidence cannot fall nd is at it's highest.
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Battles in space. Full knowledge on each other. No morals for both.
Who wins?
Beta ray Bill vs Gladiator
Not really. BRB doesn't have natural Asgardian powers like BRB does." beta ray bill=thor? right so Beta Ray Bill takes this, but it wont be easy "
I think Glads at his highest confidence can win this. Speed, strength, optical beams, durability.............................. Yeah i'd take Glads.
BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both.
This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO.
BRB doesn't have natural Asgardian powers like BRB does. Thor > BRB." BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "
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It's been done a couple times.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/gladiator-vs-beta-ray-bill/564279/
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/beta-ray-bill-vs-gladiator/560986/ "
This one, Glad's confidence is at his highest, no morals, nd he's under direct order from Lilandra to kill Bill. So this makes Glad,s more deadly nd motivated unlike those threads :/
" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart.
" @Daydream said:That made me chuckle."This one, Glad's confidence is at his highest, no morals, nd he's under direct order from Lilandra to kill Bill. So this makes Glad,s more deadly nd motivated unlike those threads :/ "
It's been done a couple times.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/gladiator-vs-beta-ray-bill/564279/
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/beta-ray-bill-vs-gladiator/560986/ "
" @Jazzitup said:" @Daydream said:That made me chuckle. ""This one, Glad's confidence is at his highest, no morals, nd he's under direct order from Lilandra to kill Bill. So this makes Glad,s more deadly nd motivated unlike those threads :/ "
It's been done a couple times.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/gladiator-vs-beta-ray-bill/564279/
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/beta-ray-bill-vs-gladiator/560986/ "
LAWL I just noticed
Gotta go BRB (lol gotta go BRB! :) I think Stombreaker could pull him the win. Long fight though. Good match
" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc." BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal.
Yea - so you're trying to say Jake Olson and Eric Masterson are just as powerful as Classic Thor then?" @drkhwk2001 said:
" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc. But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal. "" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
"Don't post videos with false information to try and prove your point.Gladiator isn't stronger than Thor.Thor wasn't even knocked out where it says he's knocked out.Thor has better strength feats on top of that.gladiator ftw "
Erci Masterson originally was as powerfull as Thor. Later they made weaker hammer for him." @czarny_samael said:
Yea - so you're trying to say Jake Olson and Eric Masterson are just as powerful as Classic Thor then? "" @drkhwk2001 said:
" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc. But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal. "" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
Gladiator is stronger and faster IMO. There is comic when Kallark fights Thor who is being amped to Super Speeds by Reed Richards. Gladiator was the only one who could see them. Even Thing was invisible to the super human eye they were so fast. Gladiator stalemates Thor under his own power.
Gladiator only if his confidence stands up BRB is no joke at all but i do think he can win but majority to Gladiator .
" Gladiator is stronger and faster IMO. There is comic when Kallark fights Thor who is being amped to Super Speeds by Reed Richards. Gladiator was the only one who could see them. Even Thing was invisible to the super human eye they were so fast. Gladiator stalemates Thor under his own power. "Thor is as fast as his thunders (1/3 speed of light, he just don't used speed, as he often don't use other of his powers).
I'm still not convinced who will win this fight, but I'm closer to say BRB.
With BFR it is easy, but without it? BRB would need God Blast, because I highly doubt that draining would work.
it is extremely difficult, nearly impossible, for gladiator to remain at full confidence. i know that was part of the stipulation of the thread, but i have rarely seen him do so. not even just him, but anybody who is on the verge of losing a figh(not saying that he is) is going to have their confidence waver. however i will give the benefit here and play ball. as far as the speed thing, eric masterson thor was able to defeat him using that exact same tactic in the "galactic storm" event when the shiar and kree went to war. and as far as warrior skill eric masterson is no bill. in the "thor corps" story brb was constantly shown to be the most powerful of the three, with masterson and the future guy whose name eludes me being shown as essentially equals. masterson just blasted him with lightning(the avenger living lightning to be exact, who wasnt too happy about that). all that being said, that was one of the rare occasions i have seen glads confident and determined, and thor just snuck him with lightning. masterson said that he was probably going to lose if he didnt think of something. after he hit him he beat him unconscious with mjolnir and hurled him through a stargate. it was pretty brutal. the reason i cite all this is because bill>masterson thor. that was shown in thor corps and bill is just much more of a warrior that masterson was. i know we dont like to use A>B and B>C so C>A in most cases, but i think this one really applies.
so brb for the win
" @drkhwk2001 said:" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc. But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal. "" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
So if a frail, weak boned person can wield Mjolnir, then he automatically becomes as powerful as Thor? Despite being below normal human strength/durability/reflexes?
" @superdemon said:And Jake Olson?Erci Masterson originally was as powerfull as Thor. Later they made weaker hammer for him. "" @czarny_samael said:
Yea - so you're trying to say Jake Olson and Eric Masterson are just as powerful as Classic Thor then? "" @drkhwk2001 said:
" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc. But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal. "" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
If he is able to lift hammer - yes. There is even indication on Mjolnir about it. "Whoever wields the Mjolnir has power of Thor" or something like that." @czarny_samael said:
" @drkhwk2001 said:So if a frail, weak boned person can wield Mjolnir, then he automatically becomes as powerful as Thor? Despite being below normal human strength/durability/reflexes? "" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc. But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal. "" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
@superdemon said:
" @czarny_samael said:
" @superdemon said:And Jake Olson? "Erci Masterson originally was as powerfull as Thor. Later they made weaker hammer for him. "" @czarny_samael said:
Yea - so you're trying to say Jake Olson and Eric Masterson are just as powerful as Classic Thor then? "" @drkhwk2001 said:
" @czarny_samael said:I know and it is based on "who is worthy", which means that You have to be a great warrior with honnor etc. But it doesn't matter, in means of power. You won't be more/less powerfull than Thor if You already wield the hammer. All people who wield one of them are equal. "" BRB is equal to Thor, as anyone who would wield Mjolnir/Strombreaker will be equal to both. This means that we have another Thor vs. Glad battle IMO. "Wielding Mjolnir is not based on skill or power it is based on a pure heart. "
Anyone. If he wasn't fighting like Thor, it wa some PIS or different magic.
The pic of that indication is here:
http://marvel.wikia.com/Mjolnir
" @czarny_samael: They gain powers of Mjolnir only, not Thor's actual physical attributes. "Exactly what I was saying. Thor, on top of Mjolnir, has natural Asgardian abilities. Something BRB doesn't have. Kallark was able to Stalemate Regular Thor while Thor was amped to Super speeds by Reed's tech.
I think Kallark beats BRB down.
" @Susanoo said:No, they have power of Thor. Not of Mjolnir, but of Thor." @czarny_samael: They gain powers of Mjolnir only, not Thor's actual physical attributes. "Exactly what I was saying. Thor, on top of Mjolnir, has natural Asgardian abilities. Something BRB doesn't have. Kallark was able to Stalemate Regular Thor while Thor was amped to Super speeds by Reed's tech. I think Kallark beats BRB down. "
i think gladiator wins this one. though i love bill the god hunter i base fights of comic characters in battle forum not on who a person is like or who they beat unless the person they beat also beat the other person. i base them on feats bc comics have plots and reasons why things happen the way they do. in a all out battle without plots i use feats. to me glads has greater feats of strenght and speed then bill. i think base on feats glads wins pretty quickly since he can have full fledge fight with hyperion in just a few seonds.
If someone is perfectlly equal to other one, all feats of the other one counts for the first one.
In this case, all Thor's feats goes to BRB. And not because of their fights, but because they use equal weapons which give them their power.
but BRB showed he was strong enough to fight thor without the weapon and i think BRB has won the majority of there match ups and has better feats, plus hes naturally strong so adding thors power to his makes him stronger lol but thors probalby more skilled with his hammer thats why hes able to match him
" @czarny_samael: but BRB showed he was strong enough to fight thor without the weapon and i think BRB has won the majority of there match ups and has better feats, plus hes naturally strong so adding thors power to his makes him stronger lol but thors probalby more skilled with his hammer thats why hes able to match him "Beta Ray Bill doesn't have better feats than Thor.
Its my understanding that full confidence Glad = Superman..Yes?
& imo BRB v Superman could go either way..
So im taking the easy route & calling it a draw :-)
Again, Beta Ray Bill doesn't have better feats than Thor.What he does against Thor is irrelevant.Thor is a planet buster and has taken down Galactus with a godblast." @Vance Astro: lol yes he does he broke galactuss face and was busting planets and has shown to beat thor the majority of times they fought and was powerful enough to fight him pre stormbreaker which just boosted his powers "
EDIT:Thor's fights with BRB haven't mostly all been in BRB's favor.That seems to be something that's passed along in the comic community.Alot of people say it and it's not true.
@Chaos Prime
said:Full confidence Gladiator isn't on Superman's level and he doesn't have a single feat to prove other wise.Superman would beat the sh#t out of Bill.His only advantage is magic and BRB is no Dr.Strange.Superman would beat the hell out of Gladiator too." Its my understanding that full confidence Glad = Superman..Yes? & imo BRB v Superman could go either way.. So im taking the easy route & calling it a draw :-) "
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