Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
Ben (Ultimate Alien) vs Ben (Omniverse)
Omniverse has what UA has and more. Gravattack and Toepick could top a lot of Ben's older aliens. Plus, this Ben is "more experienced" so he should be able to pull a win.
Each new Ben 10 series kept upping the ante, though the original was a bit better in terms of variation than Alien Force; but Omniverse looks like a huge step down, especially in terms of animation style, what the hell?
@The Mighty Monarch said:
Each new Ben 10 series kept upping the ante, though the original was a bit better in terms of variation than Alien Force; but Omniverse looks like a huge step down, especially in terms of animation style, what the hell?
Someone wanted to keep a cash cow franchise that had reached what seemed to be the final end of it's long running storyline going.
@The Stegman said:
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
This.
@UltimateHero0406 said:
Omniverse has what UA has and more. Gravattack and Toepick could top a lot of Ben's older aliens. Plus, this Ben is "more experienced" so he should be able to pull a win.
He's actually less experienced the Ben in Omniverse is 11 years old, the 16 year old Ben has yet to appear but Ultimate Alien's Ben stomps this battle. More experienced, better control of the watch, more intelligent and far more skilled and the writer for Omniverse has just about retconned everything Dwayne Mcduffie established in the previous seasons
@redbird3rdboywonder: True but Ben has most of what his older self has and more. And like I said, Gravattack and Toepick would bring new Ben victory pretty quickly.
I'm watching Ben 10 Omniverse and think ben is much weaker than in ultimate alien, one of the factors is the time of transformation and forms ultimate ben, HE CAN NOT DETER ANY VILLAIN USING ONLY AN ALIEN!
My vote is for Ultimate Ben...
@UltimateHero0406: The problem is he'd most likely not get either Alien since they went back to the old" I can't get the Alien I choose because the Omnitrix won't let me thing" which is sad but Omniverse taks place in an alternate universe
@Lord_Johnathansaid:
I cannot, in good conscience vote Omniverse.
No, just, no.
@The Stegman
said:
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
these. i still watch omniverse but its definetly the worsed series so far, plus he doesnt have any ultimates and he acts like a kid again.
@UltimateHero0406: Nope, he can't work the Omnitrix and like I said it's like he doesn't have the Ultimate Aliens anymore
Ultimate Alien in a murderous stomp. Omniverse Ben is garbage strategically, can't control his omnitrix, and it doesn't work the way he wants to. It's like you took Ben from series 1 and gave him a better omnitrix. It means squat against Ultimate Ben who is a superior strategist, has his ultimate forms, and can actually control what he turns into. Omniverse is crap. I'm sad too because I loved the Ben 10 series.
The new one is super crappy with animation what just sucks I mean at least they could make his plummer Bage when he is an alien on his chest a circle I mean that is sick and in ommiverse ben is younger than ultimate alien how dose that make any sence?
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
Ultimate Alien Ben wins. And it isn't just because it's a better show (which it is). The alien that Omniverse Ben uses the MOST is freaking Ball Weevil, now the one UA Ben used the most was either Swampfire or Humongasaur. Those two stomps Ball Weevil. Therefore UA Ben wins.
@Lord_Johnathansaid:
I cannot, in good conscience vote Omniverse.
No, just, no.
@The Stegman
said:
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
these. i still watch omniverse but its definetly the worsed series so far, plus he doesnt have any ultimates and he acts like a kid again.
Still this, still watching, even though it disappoints.
@allstarsuperman: The Omniverse is pretty attrocius, considering the standard Ultimate Alien and its predecessor had, a sense of maturity, the new series just seems goofy and he honestly looks years younger.
It's a big step down in quality.
@allstarsuperman: The Omniverse is pretty attrocius, considering the standard Ultimate Alien and its predecessor had, a sense of maturity, the new series just seems goofy and he honestly looks years younger.
It's a big step down in quality.
Yeah, I am a fanboy though and refuse to stop watching. I liked the original series the best, then UA, then AF, Omniverse has done loads of crappy things to the the shows history. It's only redeeming factor is Rook, he is so cool.
Ultimate wins simply because Omniverse sucks.
Ultimate Alien Ben cuz 'a his ultimate aliens.
UA Ben turns into Way Big, then evolves into Ultimate Way Big an' then wildy starts poundin' Omniverse Ben like a gorilla, an' no matter what alien he picks there aint gonna be nothin' left of him after the poundin'.
@parryboy: Ultimate Alien x doesn't even exist
Dwayne and Matt said that only a few of aliens can turn Ultimate some aliens like Alien x, Chromastone, Jetray and many other aliens they don't have an ultimate form
Come On guys, Omniverse had a weak start but it turned into something awesome out of no where.
And the Omnitrix was always superior to the Ultimatrix.
This. Omniverse isn't as a bad as everyone says it is. It honestly had some of the single best story arcs in the franchise.
And yes, Omniverse Ben wins. Superior Omitrix, superior experience and a broader array of alien forms and better control of their abilities.
Come On guys, Omniverse had a weak start but it turned into something awesome out of no where.
And the Omnitrix was always superior to the Ultimatrix.
This. Omniverse isn't as a bad as everyone says it is.
It's honestly great and almost on par with Ultimate Aliens if it didn't have a poor start and an odd art.
It honestly had some of the single best story arcs in the franchise.
What is it?
And yes, Omniverse Ben wins. Superior Omitrix, superior experience and a broader array of alien forms and better control of their abilities.
Yeah people don't realize that the Ultimatrix is not that good, and that the Ultimate Aliens are just trouble, and now I'll explain why the new Omnitrix is the best one.
- Unlike the Original Omnitrix and the Ultimatrix, the Omnitrix does not mistransform. If it does mistransform, it's Ben's fault caused by Ben's habit of slamming his hand on the Omnitrix's core and inadvertently the scroll pad, as revealed in For a Few Brains More.
- In A New Dawn, the Omnitrix has been revealed to have a fail-safe that kicks in in the event that the user's life is in jeopardy. This feature turns him into the needed alien he needs to survive.
- The Ultimate Forms eventually became sentient inside the Ultimatrix.
- Technical glitches caused power glitches that would cause random flight and abilities not native to the alien species, as well as leaving all the aliens naked and cold. Azmuth reformatted and corrected these errors in the new Omnitrix.
- According to Dwayne McDuffie:
- The Ultimatrix was showing signs of it not being completed properly.
- The Ultimatrix was less powerful than the Omnitrix.
- The Ultimatrix was more complicated to use fully than the Omnitrix.
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
Its a well-established fact that Ultimate Aliens were vastly more powerful than regular aliens as well. Ultimate Humangasaur curbed 50+ base humangasaur :D
How exactly? Omniverse happens after Ultimate Alien.
and has over 10,000 accessible,
- The Ultimatrix had a total of at least 1,000,910 aliens via the Codon Stream, 63 unlocked aliens and 47 named aliens (Ultimate Forms Not Included). Ben has transformed into 35 out of 44 listed.
- The Omnitrix has a total of at least 1,000,912 aliens; 99 have been unlocked, 71 named, and 61 Ben has been seen becoming.
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
Its a well-established fact that Ultimate Aliens were vastly more powerful than regular aliens as well. Ultimate Humangasaur curbed 50+ base humangasaur :D
And Atomix curb stomped Ultimate Humangasour with no effort.
Omniverse Ben is still only 16. Ultimate Ben is decades older and would obviously be more experienced and has unlocked far more aliens(over 10,000). He is also trained in H2H and can use a little magic. He has mastered the watch to such a degree that he could probably force shut down young Ben's Omnitrix.
Actually, I'll say Ultimate Alien Ben, He has shown to be a better combatant, and his ultimate forms were more powerful than their regular counterparts...that, and Omniverse is a crappy show.
Its a well-established fact that Ultimate Aliens were vastly more powerful than regular aliens as well. Ultimate Humangasaur curbed 50+ base humangasaur :D
And Atomix curb stomped Ultimate Humangasour with no effort.
true true. Because let's face it, Atomix is Ben's 2nd strongest Alien.
@lowlaville: So what? Ben can become Atomix whenever he wants.
@lowlaville: So what? Ben can become Atomix whenever he wants.
Omnitrix has a fail-safe. Worst case, he turns into Alien X, but he can't be killed. And if Omniverse Ben takes Atomix, UA Ben might as well just siphon the DNA into his Omnitrix.
Omniverse, still the worst of the franchise, did definitely get better. That time travel season, and the finale, were both very very good. It did a couple good things, Rook and retconning Ultimate Ben back into Ben 10,000.
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