Ben Ten Aliens vs Marvel

1- Fourarms vs Luke Cage

2- Rath vs Rhino

3- Humungosaur vs Thing

4- Diamondhead vs Wolverine

5- XLR8 vs Quicksilver

6- Chromastone vs Colossus

7- XLR8 vs Spiderman

8- Way Big vs Thor

9- Ultimate Way Big vs Hulk

10- Echo Echo vs Black Bolt

11- Alien X vs Franklin Richards

12- Wildvine vs Reed Richards

13- Big Chill vs Sue Storm

14- Heat Blast vs Human Torch

15- Spidermonkey vs Captain America

16- Spider Monkey vs Black Panther

Knowledge on each other. They don't have prep time.

• Fourarms vs Luke Cage Fourarms murders
• Rath vs Rhino Rath is an 80+ tonner
• Humungosaur vs Thing Idk maybe the thing
• Diamondhead vs Wolverine Wolverine cant do nothing
• XLR8 vs Quicksilver Ehh? Id say QS
• Chromastone vs Colossus Chromastone
• XLR8 vs Spiderman
  
• Way Big vs Thor Thor wins unless WB uses his speed
• Ultimate Way Big vs Hulk UWB solos this whole list minus Franklin Richards
• Echo Echo vs Black Bolt
• Alien X vs Franklin Richards I am not that familiar with FR
• Wildvine vs Reed Richards
• Big Chill vs Sue Storm
• Heat Blast vs Human Torch
• Spidermonkey vs Captain America
• Spider Monkey vs Black Panther

@allstarsuperman How the hell does Heatblast beat Human Torch?

superior durability

That's debatable. What isn't debatable is Johnny's ability to absorb any and all ranged attacks he tries, and Johnny's superior speed.

Heatblast can do the same, so if it were to come down to a fist fight heatblast would stomp

I'd argue that Johnny has greater absorption feats and would even go as far as to say he could absorb Heatblast's internal flames thus incapacitating him. If it does come to a fistfight then it could go either way. Johnny's traded blows with Namor and tanked hits from Terminus.

That could maybe work

I dont know who Terminus is, but Heatblast has been thrown through 4 buildings and made a huge crator and got up just fine

Terminus is a cosmic traveler who's conquered many planets by himself and threatened Earth a good amount of times. He's easily class 100 due to his size and the fact that he's soloed the Avengers and X-Men.

1- Fourarms vs Luke Cage- Four arms stomps.

2- Rath vs Rhino- Rath in a close battle.

3- Humungosaur vs Thing- Humongosaur is srronger. And if he grows, he'll stomp.

4- Diamondhead vs Wolverine- Diamonhead wins.

5- XLR8 vs Quicksilver- Pietro wins.

6- Chromastone vs Colossus- Chromastone. Much more versatile.

7- XLR8 vs Spiderman- Don't know for sure if Spidey can tag or react to XLR8.

8- Way Big vs Thor- Way Big. Faster and planet busting cosmic rays.

9- Ultimate Way Big vs Hulk- UWB stomps.

10- Echo Echo vs Black Bolt- BB obliterates unless Echo Echo creates many copies before BB screams.

11- Alien X vs Franklin Richards- There is a whole thread dedicated to this. Alien X if its kid Frank. Not sure if adult Frank.

12- Wildvine vs Reed Richards- Wildvine stomps.

13- Big Chill vs Sue Storm- Big Chill. Unless she can trap intangibles.

14- Heat Blast vs Human Torch- Not sure.

15- Spidermonkey vs Captain America- Spidermonkey wins.

16- Spider Monkey vs Black Panther- BP wins.

The heck? How did I miss planet busting rays?

@AllStarSuperman: Its a deduction. There are two instances where WB's cosmic rays did more destruction than planet busters.

1- Ascalon, a planet buster, was merely scratching Diagon while UWB's cosmic rays chopped his tentacles clean off.

2- Malware was blown to pieces when Galvan Prime exploded, but Way Big's cosmic rays completely obliterated his torso. And obliteration>>> Blowing off into pieces.

Nice! Is this logical:

Ultimate Waybig has planet level durability, cause he took hits from Diagon (a universal threat)? Remember Diagon tanked planet level hits from Ascolon.

IT seems like speculation to me, but idk how to gauge his durability properly.

@AllStarSuperman: Diagon's durability was planatery+. Not sure about his damage output but if it was anything like his durability, UWB's durability is above planetary as well. He was tanking Diagon's lasers.

here is winners

1- Fourarms

2- Rath

3- Humungosaur

4- Diamondhead

5- XLR8

6- Chromastone

7- XLR8

8- Way Big

9- Ultimate Way Big

10-''bb"

11- Alien X

12- Wildvine

13- Big Chill

14- Heat Blast

15- Spidermonkey

16- Black

Panther

I agree on this, except with Captain America. He doesn't have the reaction speed to handle Spidermonkey...

@allstarsuperman: @rbt: @lolaville: So, who wins? Thor or Waybig?

@agentj07 Thor should win handily. He can absorb his energy attacks and he's physically WB's superior. Much greater striking feats and durability to boot.

@juiceboks: Thor doesn't regularly absorb attacks and yadda yadda slow combat speed

@Juiceboks: Really? He can absorb a planet busting attack? And does he even have the reaction time to react to something that fast?

@allstarsuperman If he decides against tanking the blast(which he could) I don't see why he wouldn't be able to. Way Big also gives a pretty big cue whenever he's about to do it by folding his arms together. Thor's absorbed Hyperions heat vision, Surfer's cosmic blasts, and several other energy based attacks so I wouldn't say it's that unlikely for him to resort to that strategy.

@rbt Way-Big has never busted a planet with his energy blasts and to say he could is really just speculation based on his Malware fight. Even he was capable of such a feat..yes Thor can absorb planet-busting blasts. He absorbed Surfer's cosmic blasts who unlike Way Big..is a confirmed planet buster. And like I told allstarsuperman, Way Big gives a pretty big indication when he's about to shoot off an energy blast.

@rbt: AllStarSuperman

Thor's power exceeds WB durability by a large amount, and his size would prove to be a disadvantage as it would allow Thor to turn circles around him using Mjolnir. And yes, Thor can absorb his planet busting attack considering he has absorb a bomb that can destroy a whole galaxy. Absorbing and/or redirecting is one of his notable techniques that he has consistently used within time compared to many of his other abilities. Once absorbed, he can redirect it 10 or 100 times more powerful.

@Experio: You're assuming that Way Big is slow when infact he's gone FTL. About absorbing his rays, Thor will have to react to it. Seeing that he's been blitzed by Quicksilver, he won't be able to react.

@Juiceboks: You said Way Big gives a big indication when he's about to fire. That's not correct. He crosses his arms and shoots cosmic rays. This is as unusual as you get.

@rbt: So you can read minds? And no, Quicksilver has never blitzed Thor, unless your definition of blitzing is Quicksilver dodging Thor's lightning but gets taken down when Thor hits the ground. Show me this FTL speed you speak off, also I don't remember the rays being confirmed to being a planet buster.

1). Four arms.

2). Rath.

3). Humungosaur.

4). Diamondhead.

5). Quicksilver.

6). Chromastone.

7). XLR8.

8). Way Big.

9). Ultimate Way Big.

10). Black Bolt.

11). Richards, unless Alien X can come to an agreement quickly.

12). Wildvine.

13). Big Chill.

14). Human Torch.

15). Spider monkey.

16). Spider monkey via web incapacitation.

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@rbt He also generates a green circle of energy right before the blast fires. Really all Thor has to do is watch him fire it once to know when he's gonna do it.

@Experio: In Ultimate Alien episode Widening Gyre, Way Big went FTL. In Ultimate enemy, Ult Way Big casually reacted to Diagon's laser and deflected it by rotating his body at superspeed.

It was pretty clear that Thor couldn't react to QS. That's why he had to resort to AoE attack. He couldn't tag QS, so he smashed the ground.

Read post #13 of this thread.

@Juiceboks: In omniverse he does create a green circle. But in all of his other appearences, he fired it without that circle. Thor might be able to able to see the attack coming second time, but it'll be a surprise when Way Big uses it for first time. And don't think Thor can survive it. Not to mention, even without the rays, Way Big can hurt Thor his strength. He's many times stronger than base Humungosaur, who can throw stuffs in orbit.

@allstarsuperman: Can chromostone reconfigure himself? because if he cant colossus takes it. if he can ... he wins.

@rbt Let's chalk that one up to one of the inconsistencies within the Ben 10 series. You're underselling Thor's durability quite a bit. He's tanked energy blasts from MUCH more powerful enemies such as Celestials(from whom he also absorbed) and Odin. Way Big's blasts should do little more than daze him for a second. And again..Thor's durability feats suggest he can tank hits from Way Big without much effort. As far as striking feats go..Way Big isn't that impressive. If anything he's outclassed in that department.

heres what i think on this battle

fourarms vs Luke cage fourarms wins because he has better durability and Superior strength

rath vs rhino how exactly does rhino beat rath hes screwed against him

humungousaur vs thing humungousaur is many times stronger then the thing at normal size if he grows he screws him over

diamondhead vs wolverine diamondhead will wins because he can regenerate faster and he is stronger then wolverine

XLR8 vs quicksilver don't know much about quicksilver so i give the win to XLR8

waybig vs Thor i would say waybig would kick his butt

ultimate waybig vs hulk ultimate waybig is a planet buster with his rays so he crushes hulk

echo echo vs black bolt echo echo can clone himself an unlimited amount of times so he can easily beat black bolt

alien x vs Franklin Richards i would say alien x wins if he can get Bellicus and Serena to agree on something

wildvine vs reed richards i would say wildvine can win because he has more ability's then stretching

big chill vs sue storm although they both have intangibility big chill is much more unique with his abilities and he could just freeze her

heatblast vs human torch heatblast wins easily

spidermonkey vs captain america spidermonkey wins because he is faster' has more strength and is more agile

spidermonkey vs black panther i would say they could match each other blow for blow so it ends in a draw

chormastone vs colossus this battle i dont know who wins

How the hell does cloning himself give Echo Echo an advantage over Black Bolt? Especially when one word would decimate him.

I'd also like to know how you think Heatblast beats Human Torch. Oh and Sue Storm can't go intangible..

I quickly went and skimmed the through the episode and WB never went FTL, he did however go above the speed of sound by creating a large tidal wave. And even then he required to build momentum which he wont have to time to do here, Mjolnir is exclusively faster than anything WB has shown, Thor would be turning circles around and hitting from all sides of direction knocking the giant down seeing as his durability is hasn't shown the capability to withstand these hits.

What are you talking about, Quicksilver didn't even attack Thor for him to react. You said Quicksilver blitzed Thor which is incorrect so no need to argue this topic.

Even if WB does have Planetary blasting attacks, Thor has taken Super-nova's to the face and attacks from Celestials and still get up. The blast wont take him down, while its arguable that one throw from the hammer would knock WB out.

What are the feats of humungousaur?

he lifted an incredibly big house at normal size and there some other thing that i can thing of

and also echo echo has sonic powers so if he cloned himself enough he could eventually outmatch black bolt

If he did just that he is not many times stronger than the Thing

@Juiceboks: Ok. But the attacks Thor tanked on his body, were they planet busters? And Way Big's rays are not just planet busting. They are way above that. Planet buster was merely scratching Diagon and UWB's cosmic rays chopped his tentacle. Malware,who survived moon busting, was obliterated by WB's cosmic rays.

Way Big has shown strength several times than base Humungosaur. By power scaling. Base Humungosaur can throw stuffs in orbit and Trumbipular stomped him. Way Big outclassed a several times amped Trumbipular. So, Way Big should be very strong. As far as his durability goes, he's survived fall from huge distace. Tanked hits from very amped Vilgax, who in his normal form has overpowered fully grown Humungosaur.

@Experio: Way Big couldn't possibly have BFRd the monster in space by going just supersonic. XLR8 can go supersonic and his vortexes never extend to even a buildings height.

Flying around Way Big and hitting him requires combat speed which Thor lacks. Reacting lo lasers casually is better combat feat than Thor.

Way Big has planet+ level attack which he can spam.

Black_Arrow: Throwing a hoverboard into orbi in his base form. He can grow 6 times than his base form.

@Black_Arrow: ^^

i though that humungousaur could only grow to five times his size

@rbt:

Cause WB was continuously going in circles, it doesn't take going FTL to create a tidal wave that large and he certainly wasn't moving in light movement only blurc - Which still require momentum.

Flying around WB does not require combat speed, Thor commands Mjolnir while he hangs on to strike WB from side to side till his knocked out, Mjolnir's speed > WB's speed. And it wont matter if WB's blast are planetary ++ damage out put, Thor would still survive and then continue to blitz him going through, and if sends another one, it would be absorbed.

@rbt

Ok. But the attacks Thor tanked on his body, were they planet busters? And Way Big's rays are not just planet busting. They are way above that. Planet buster was merely scratching Diagon and UWB's cosmic rays chopped his tentacle. Malware,who survived moon busting, was obliterated by WB's cosmic rays.

Considering even no named Celestials can destroy planets with ease and take on Skyfathers without any trouble..and much weaker beings such as this Thanosi have destroyed planets as a side effect of their battles...

..to think even the weakest blasts a Celestial could muster can't destroy a planet is silly.

Your idea of "surviving" is giving Malware a lot of unwarranted credit. He was blown apart and scattered into many, many different pieces from Galvan Prime exploding. Yea he survived it (because of his physiology) but don't make it seem like he came out unharmed. Way Big blowing away part of his body does not in anyway prove that he can destroy planets. A concentrated energy blast is much different than a moon wide explosion that left floating pieces of rock and rubble so you can't really compare the two. Even if Malware did come out unharmed..that only makes his durability moon level.

And again even if you're right..Thor has tanked blasts from beings much more powerful than Way Big who have actually done(quite easily I might add) what you're suggesting but has never actually been shown by Way Big or any of Ben's aliens save for Alien X.

Rhino can do that and he in strength is in the same level of the thing.

yeah but rhino is weaker then him

1- Fourarms vs Luke Cage Ben

2- Rath vs Rhino Ben

3- Humungosaur vs Thing Ben

4- Diamondhead vs Wolverine marval

5- XLR8 vs Quicksilver marval

6- Chromastone vs Colossus ben

7- XLR8 vs Spiderman marval

8- Way Big vs Thor marval

9- Ultimate Way Big vs Hulk Ben

10- Echo Echo vs Black Bolt marval

11- Alien X vs Franklin Richards Ben

12- Wildvine vs Reed Richards ben

13- Big Chill vs Sue Storm ben

14- Heat Blast vs Human Torch stalemate

15- Spidermonkey vs Captain America marval

16- Spider Monkey vs Black Panther marval

That doesn't prove that Humongasaur is a million+tonner though. That's ridiculous..

1- Fourarms vs Luke Cage

2- Rath vs Rhino

3- Humungosaur vs Thing

4- Diamondhead vs Wolverine

5- XLR8 vs Quicksilver

6- Chromastone vs Colossus

7- XLR8 vs Spiderman

8- Way Big vs Thor

9- Ultimate Way Big vs Hulk

10- Echo Echo vs Black Bolt

11- Alien X vs Franklin Richards

12- Wildvine vs Reed Richards

13- Big Chill vs Sue Storm

14- Heat Blast vs Human Torch

15- Spidermonkey vs Captain America

16- Spider Monkey vs Black Panther

Marvel wins HUGE Majority.

You are wrong on just about everything you said. Also, the thing has lifted a 30,000 ton building before, so no, humoungasaur is not stronger.

Wolverine would demolish diomod head, due to healing factor, and skill.

Way big would get his butt handed to him by Thor. Thor is a god.

Human torch losing to HEATLBLAST!?! Are you kidding me?!?!

That is the feat of the thing I had in mind when I told him that the house was nothing.

@juiceboks: yeah but i have never thought that humungousaur is one million plus tonner