Ben 10 vs Guyver 1

Ben Tenneson:

.Has access to all aliens up to the end of Alien Force

.No master control

.No Ultimatrix

.Cannot use Alien X until two minutes have passed (that doesn't mean he automatically uses it at the two minute mark)

.He thinks Sho is a dangerous alien, so morals are off

Sho Fukamachi:

.No going Gigantic

.Cannot use the Mega Smasher until two minutes have passed (that doesn't mean he automatically uses it at the two minute mark)

.He thinks Ben is a Zoanoid, so morals are off

Rules:

.No BFR

.Win by death or KO

Location:

Excellent battle I'm on the fence.

@nelomaxwell: I'm not sure if there's anything Ben can do that Guyver can't counter.

Anyone else?

LOL this is so stupid no Ultimatrix = No UA aliens because his original Omnitirx didn't have any UA aliens.

spite battle is spite.

I remember the early 90's Guyver movie, but don't really know much about him. I'll pick him Just because i cant stand Ben 10 threads. =P

And this is why people like you shouldn't be in battle threads >_>

@jojjimbo: Then steer clear of Ben 10 threads. As simple as that.

bump

There are so many ways this can go sideways for Ben it hurts. Just about anything Guyver one does in this fight will be lethal and will kill Ben if he isn't an appropriate alien to avoid being killed.

The Guyver is pretty much combat superior to any of Bens other forms. If he turns into an alien without durability and or speed to evade and withstand Guyvers blows it can be a one shot for him. Especially if Guyver goes into defense mode..he's a beast. I'm not counting Alien X because he is very unpredictable and I'm sure sho will kill him before it even gets that far.

Way Big?

You are perhaps forgetting about Rath, nearly invulnurable guy, Superhuman strength (presumebly in the 5-10 ton range- dismantled a tank and threw one half of it with one hand, the other half with both hands.), Superhuman strength, jumping capability, fighter, or Swamp Fire, pretty much unkillable guy. Or maybe Goop could mess up the symbiotes bonding. Or, go Way Big and just smash the purty little alien thing.

Or fasttrack (superhuman strength, super speed)

NRG

Unkillables like Diamond head, chromostone, goop, swampfire, block thingy, etc.

Shocksquatch can handle himself too, at least until Alien x is available.

So can big chill, just go intang and he can stand in place for 2 mins. If he gets punched, the guys hand will be frozen.

he could also be cheap and use Waybig, Eon, clockwork, etc.

@cooldes: Lets not forget, the Omnitrix can copy the DNA of the symbiote and turn into and wtf own! hah. Or, copy the DNA of guyver 1 and directly transform into it, that would save Ben the need to find a host.

Rath is easily over 80 tonner.

@rbt: That was an assumption.

Morals Off? Sho busts out the sonic canon and disintegrates Ben before he ever has a chance to transform or one shots him with the head laser...GG.

@sovereign91001: Hows that for fairness? lol

how is he that strong?

ikr. An 80 tonner could very well topple 3-4 storey buildings with ease. I dont know if Rath is that strong.

@AllStarSuperman: Rath threw a tank to a very good distance. An average tank weighs 60 tons. Lifting it, throwing it away with no strain whatsoever.

@rbt: I thought a tank weighs like... 10 ton max. lol nvm.

oh geez.

@lowlaville: It wouldn't be, but it'd be funny as hell.

Ben: I don't know who you are but you better get of my planet!"

Sho: ...

Ben: dials Omnitrix to alien of his choice.

Ben: "Nothing to say huh? It's Hero Ti-"

SFX for laser to the brain.

@Sovereign91001: Bes has dodged worse.

@rbt: Ben (in his human form) is not going to dodge anything Guyver throws at him. Ben benefits from facing opponents with poor aim.

Edit: And Guyver's reflexes and speed put him far far above base Ben.

@sovereign91001: that feat is borderline brf. in all likelihood, the battle starts on equal ground, as in once both participants are ready. Otherwise, useless matchup.

@Sovereign91001: Ben, in his human form, has dodged lasers from 2 blasters being fired at him continuosly by a trained plumber, all while running towards the plumber proceeding to knock the gun off his hands.

And anyways, fuggt should start after Ben transforms.

Guyver 1.

Guyver's control medal can repair any damage done to him. His sonic blades can easily cut through Rath's defense and from what I read in the manga, it could hurt any of the unassailable forms that Ben can choose. Plus his mega smasher can fry just about anything. If it could make that huge crater in that mountain miles away it can even hurt way big. But I admit way big does pose a threat. All of the Zoanoids are almost on par with Ben's forms, and the Guyver can take them all on and even the Hyper Zoanoids which are superior to Ben and more like the ultimate forms. And I don't see the omnitrix copying the Guyver's DNA. The Guyver is actually similar to the omnitrix because it repairs, copies, and adapts to the DNA of any creature it bonds with. It was made by the "Creators" to protect the different alien species in hostile environments, or even lack there of.

And again if the Guyver takes over, it is a beast. It attacks with tactical precision, combat skills the host may not even know, and the ability to scan for the weakness of it's enemy or what it sees as a threat to it. I was a big fan of the manga and loved how Sho's own lack of skill kept him from being a powerhouse. Ben may have been trained by the plumbers, but his skill vs. the Guyvers defensive skills is like putting an average combatant against Batman or Captain America.

@just_j79: The omnitrix has a failsafe that won’t let him die which reacted to the Big Bang which is decillions of times faster than light