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#1 Edited by Legoninja911 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Ben 10 has only his original 10 aliens

both want to kill

there fighting at the Titans Tower

No preparation

who win in the battle of the shapeshifters

#2 Posted by ALMIGHTY (596 posts) - - Show Bio

@Legoninja911: If Ben has ALL his aliens besides the original 10 its a Murder stomp... If its the original 10 its still a stomp.... It just depends on how badly you wan't beast boy to get stomped...

#3 Posted by Legoninja911 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@ALMIGHTY said:

@Legoninja911: If Ben has ALL his aliens besides the original 10 its a Murder stomp... If its the original 10 its still a stomp.... It just depends on how badly you wan't beast boy to get stomped...

even if its comic beast boy?

#4 Posted by ALMIGHTY (596 posts) - - Show Bio

@Legoninja911: I don't know too much about "comic" Beast Boy... may you enlighten me with some feats and/or scans...

#5 Posted by Soul_Rebel (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

Couldn't Beast Boy be able to turn into the aliens Ben turns into?

#6 Posted by ALMIGHTY (596 posts) - - Show Bio

@Soul_Rebel: I thought it was only earth bound creatures ??? I could be wrong... Even if he could, he wouldn't have nearly amount the experience Ben does with them...

#7 Posted by Soul_Rebel (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

@ALMIGHTY: No he's mimiced aliens and even creatures that weren't real before. Such as a Phoenix. I don't know if he'll be able to just mimic space humanoids/ creatures that Ben pulls out of his pocket. BB is also pretty instinctive, he'll figure out how to use them fairly easy (if he can mimic them).

#8 Posted by Nefarious (17622 posts) - - Show Bio

Ben 10, I presume.

#9 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

Beast Boy would win. He can transform into any of Ben's aliens and unlike Ben BB has no limitations.

#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Ben 10, I presume.
#11 Posted by clemj (817 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess ben, due to the superiority of his aliens on the stuff beast boy knows

#12 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

Beast Boy would win. He can transform into any of Ben's aliens and unlike Ben BB has no limitations.

Ben Ten aliens aren't animals. Some look like animals, but they are sentient.

So Ben Ten for the win.

#13 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice said:

@BlueComet said:

Beast Boy would win. He can transform into any of Ben's aliens and unlike Ben BB has no limitations.

Ben Ten aliens aren't animals. Some look like animals, but they are sentient.

So Ben Ten for the win.

BB can transform into aliens and animals that's why he wins this fight and the fact that Ben can only stay in his alien forms for 10-minutes at a time whereas BB has no limitations at all.

#14 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@BlueComet said:

Beast Boy would win. He can transform into any of Ben's aliens and unlike Ben BB has no limitations.

Ben Ten aliens aren't animals. Some look like animals, but they are sentient.

So Ben Ten for the win.

BB can transform into aliens and animals that's why he wins this fight and the fact that Ben can only stay in his alien forms for 10-minutes at a time whereas BB has no limitations at all.

Once Ben transforms into xceler8 it's over.

#15 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

#16 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

XLR8 would kill bb before he could even transform.

#17 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

Heatblast should have no problem frying it into something crispy.

What's BB gonna do about Ghostfreak?

#18 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

Heatblast should have no problem frying it into something crispy.

What's BB gonna do about Ghostfreak?

True I forgot about G freak.XD

BB can't do anything to him.

#19 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice said:

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

XLR8 would kill bb before he could even transform.

You're kidding right? It takes way longer for Ben to transform then it takes for BB to transform. Ben would lose the second he reached for his watch.

#20 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

XLR8 would kill bb before he could even transform.

You're kidding right? It takes way longer for Ben to transform then it takes for BB to transform. Ben would lose the second he reached for his watch.

The fastest BB can run is 70 mph as a cheetah.

He will not reach Ben before the transformation.

#21 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet: You do know Ben transforms in a flash, it only looks long for dramatic effects but in reality he transforms as soon as he hits his watch hence the green flash.

As I said, Heatblast would fry the T-rex and Beast Boy is not doing anything to Ghostfreak.

#22 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

Heatblast should have no problem frying it into something crispy.

What's BB gonna do about Ghostfreak?

True I forgot about G freak.XD

BB can't do anything to him.

If it's day time then Ghostfreak is screwed if not BB can turn into an amoeba for ten minutes until the transformation wears off then KO Ben. Ben can't do anything to an aboeba.

#23 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

Heatblast should have no problem frying it into something crispy.

What's BB gonna do about Ghostfreak?

True I forgot about G freak.XD

BB can't do anything to him.

If it's day time then Ghostfreak is screwed if not BB can turn into an amoeba for ten minutes until the transformation wears off then KO Ben. Ben can't do anything to an aboeba.

Heat blast would nuke the entire area. Heat kills amoeba.

#24 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet said:

@venomsapprentice: I didn't realize XLR8 can kill a T-rex

-_-

Heatblast should have no problem frying it into something crispy.

What's BB gonna do about Ghostfreak?

True I forgot about G freak.XD

BB can't do anything to him.

If it's day time then Ghostfreak is screwed if not BB can turn into an amoeba for ten minutes until the transformation wears off then KO Ben. Ben can't do anything to an aboeba.

I'll d like to see an Amoeba survive in Heatblast's body..

#25 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice: @RudeBomberBoy01: I forgot about Heatblast. In that case Ben does lose but any other alien he could win against.

#26 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

Diamondhead could be trouble.

#27 Posted by joewell (6240 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

Diamondhead could be trouble.

i wouldnt think so,, a t-rex could probly take DH

#28 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

Diamondhead could be trouble.

i wouldnt think so,, a t-rex could probly take DH

Dimondhead could summon the crystals from the ground and all around the area, he could also coat himself up with sharp prickly crystals and erect them into longer lengths at will. I doubt a T-rex's skin would be too hard for Dimondhead's crystals to pierce through.

#29 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

how is BB suppose to take out diamond head, who is made of one of the hardest substance in the universe. what about ghost freak who is intengible or xlr8 who can speedblitz him. assume ben has unlocked ultimate control, he can switch from alien to alien, and the battery will not run out

#30 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz: If he fought Ghostfreak he can either out run him or transform into an amoeba.

If it's XLR8 then a t-rex would cancel each other out because neither can hurt the other.

#31 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

Diamondhead could be trouble.

i wouldnt think so,, a t-rex could probly take DH

dont think t-rex can take dh. but if bb turns into t-rex, he is as good as dead. 4 arms hold t-rex's mouth open, master control switch to greymatter and jump into t-rex's throat, master control switch to heatblast, and do an explosion

#32 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet: You do know Ben transforms in a flash, it only looks long for dramatic effects but in reality he transforms as soon as he hits his watch hence the green flash.

As I said, Heatblast would fry the T-rex and Beast Boy is not doing anything to Ghostfreak.

You realize that he has to push a button and pick which alien he wants to transform into before he actually "go's hero" that's alot more time then it takes for BB to transform.@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@joewell said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

Diamondhead could be trouble.

i wouldnt think so,, a t-rex could probly take DH

Dimondhead could summon the crystals from the ground and all around the area, he could also coat himself up with sharp prickly crystals and erect them into longer lengths at will. I doubt a T-rex's skin would be too hard for Dimondhead's crystals to pierce through.

BB doesn't have to stay in his t-rex form the whole time he can just dodge all of DH attacks as a bird or something then headbutt him as a t-rex FTW.

#33 Posted by Soul_Rebel (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

BB has turned into sentient aliens before... Soemtimes he's also manipulated the size of the animals he's turned into as well, i see him taking this.

#34 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19489 posts) - - Show Bio

Well...

If Ben 10 is a human, and humans are mammals, couldn't Beast Boy turn into Ben 10?

"Be water my friend"

#35 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@kcaz: If he fought Ghostfreak he can either out run him or transform into an amoeba.

If it's XLR8 then a t-rex would cancel each other out because neither can hurt the other.

but ben has the master control, he can switch from alien to alien just by a single thought, and the omnitrix will not time out. if its t-rex, just have xlr8 jump directly at the t-rex's mouth, and switch to greymatter, the momentum from xlr8 will throw greymatter into t-rex's mouth, once in the t-rex's mouth, switch to maybe heatblast, and do an explosion. anyway i see it, bb has no chance

#36 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

#37 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz said:

@BlueComet said:

@kcaz: If he fought Ghostfreak he can either out run him or transform into an amoeba.

If it's XLR8 then a t-rex would cancel each other out because neither can hurt the other.

but ben has the master control, he can switch from alien to alien just by a single thought, and the omnitrix will not time out. if its t-rex, just have xlr8 jump directly at the t-rex's mouth, and switch to greymatter, the momentum from xlr8 will throw greymatter into t-rex's mouth, once in the t-rex's mouth, switch to maybe heatblast, and do an explosion. anyway i see it, bb has no chance

It's the original Ben in debate here. Ben with the master control would be a mismatch.

#38 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

A phoenix?

#39 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

He doesn't have to be, like I said he can just dodge all of DH attacks as a bird and then drop on him from above as a T-rex. Pretty easy win.

I never said he DID have an answer for Heatblast, In fact I specifically said Heatblast would win so stop trolling. A phoenix BTW.

#40 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz said:

@BlueComet said:

@kcaz: If he fought Ghostfreak he can either out run him or transform into an amoeba.

If it's XLR8 then a t-rex would cancel each other out because neither can hurt the other.

but ben has the master control, he can switch from alien to alien just by a single thought, and the omnitrix will not time out. if its t-rex, just have xlr8 jump directly at the t-rex's mouth, and switch to greymatter, the momentum from xlr8 will throw greymatter into t-rex's mouth, once in the t-rex's mouth, switch to maybe heatblast, and do an explosion. anyway i see it, bb has no chance

Ben doesn't have the master control in this fight if he did it would be spite.

#41 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGraySon said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

A phoenix?

It's not like it's Marvels' Phoenix or some ultrasuperduperpowerful bird, I have yet to see it do anything that surpasses Heatblast. Could someone prove me wrong on this?

#42 Posted by jsav777 (608 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure it'd be cartoon Best Boy since he's going against a cartoon, which, if that's the case Ben 10 stomps pretty hard. If it's comics BB then I'm not sure who'd win, maybe Beast Boy if he can turn to Ben's aliens. Can someone educate me? Has Beast Boy ever turned into humanoid aliens or just beast-like ones?

#43 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

I didnt say it could beat Heartblast, only thing weve seen it do is protect him and his entire team from an explosion.

#44 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

He doesn't have to be, like I said he can just dodge all of DH attacks as a bird and then drop on him from above as a T-rex. Pretty easy win.

I never said he DID have an answer for Heatblast, In fact I specifically said Heatblast would win so stop trolling. A phoenix BTW.

Still doesn't stop the T-rex getting a head full of crystals. Diamondhead has an AOE(ish) attack that could easily stop the T-rex from dropping on him.

The Heatblast comment wasn't directed at you, just making another point hence the "anyways" and I'm not trolling :/

#45 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

He doesn't have to be, like I said he can just dodge all of DH attacks as a bird and then drop on him from above as a T-rex. Pretty easy win.

I never said he DID have an answer for Heatblast, In fact I specifically said Heatblast would win so stop trolling. A phoenix BTW.

Still doesn't stop the T-rex getting a head full of crystals. Diamondhead has an AOE(ish) attack that could easily stop the T-rex from dropping on him.

The Heatblast comment wasn't directed at you, just making another point hence the "anyways" and I'm not trolling :/

Diamondhead would have to have a few seconds for that to work( I'm pretty sure it isn't "instant") and that isn't BB's only option, he can also build up momentum by flying straight at DH then transform into a T-rex just before running into him. Either way BB beats DH and HB if he transforms into a Phoenix.

#46 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

0:56 would make sure a T-rex doesn't drop on him.

#47 Edited by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

@BlueComet:

You're acting like a T-rex moves at machs or something. The T-rex would get a head full of crystals trying to 'headbutt' Diamondhead.

Anyways, Beast Boy does NOT have an answer to Heatblast.

He doesn't have to be, like I said he can just dodge all of DH attacks as a bird and then drop on him from above as a T-rex. Pretty easy win.

I never said he DID have an answer for Heatblast, In fact I specifically said Heatblast would win so stop trolling. A phoenix BTW.

Still doesn't stop the T-rex getting a head full of crystals. Diamondhead has an AOE(ish) attack that could easily stop the T-rex from dropping on him.

The Heatblast comment wasn't directed at you, just making another point hence the "anyways" and I'm not trolling :/

Diamondhead would have to have a few seconds for that to work( I'm pretty sure it isn't "instant") and that isn't BB's only option, he can also build up momentum by flying straight at DH then transform into a T-rex just before running into him. Either way BB beats DH and HB if he transforms into a Phoenix.

Nope, it's nearly instant, watch the video I posted.

Momentum or not, the T-rex is gonna fall into it and impale itself.

I don't see BB beating Heatblast.

#48 Posted by Soul_Rebel (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

@jsav777: He's turned into humanoid aliens before.

#49 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

0:56 would make sure a T-rex doesn't drop on him.

He wouldn't use that attack unless he knew a t-rex was about to hit him, If BB flies at him as a bird there's no way he'd use it and his reaction time isn't fast enough realize that BB is faking him out by the time he realizes he would already be destroyed.

Just because you "don't see" BB beating Heatblast doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. HB can't hurt a phoenix but BB could just grab him and drop him in the water, this fight is on Titan Tower which is surrounded by water.

#50 Edited by RudeBomberBoy01 (1407 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@RudeBomberBoy01 said:

0:56 would make sure a T-rex doesn't drop on him.

He wouldn't use that attack unless he knew a t-rex was about to hit him, If BB flies at him as a bird there's no way he'd use it and his reaction time isn't fast enough realize that BB is faking him out by the time he realizes he would already be destroyed.

Just because you "don't see" BB beating Heatblast doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. HB can't hurt a phoenix but BB could just grab him and drop him in the water, this fight is on Titan Tower which is surrounded by water.

You're acting like Diamondhead would just stand in one place acting like an inanimate object, he would be on the move as well. Did you watch the whole video? His reaction time is no joke, his reaction timing and speed are pretty impressive against small projectile objects.

Diamond head is quite mobile (when he wants to be), I think he'll be able to react with the AOE attack against a giant ass Dinosaur about to drop on him. Regardless of how fast it's coming.

There is no proof to say Heatblast can't hurt Beat Boy as a Phoenix, you're forgetting that Heatblast can also fly and is pretty darn powerful. He'll d fry anything Beast Boy comes up with. There isn't enough Phoenix feat to suggest it can take on Heatblast. The only one already mentioned can be easily replicated by Heatblast as he possesses the ability to 'remove' and absorb flames.

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