Ben 10 (Ultimate Alien) vs Hulk

#1 Edited by thefusescape (155 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Location: Bellwood

Scenario: Hulk gets zapped into a different dimension and lands in Bellwood after a raging fit. Random encounter.

Ben could hold him for a short while as ultimate humongasaur. But can he keep up wil XLR8 or kill goop? I think Hulk has this but I may be wrong.

Learned that Rath is a bit like hulk. But I imagine weaker still giving this to hulk.

#2 Posted by LordMaverick (4388 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Been done, Bens watch will time out then Hulk Smash

#3 Posted by SMXLR8 (385 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@thefusescape: this has been done before please use the search

#4 Posted by thefusescape (155 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Ben's watch in ultimate alien won't time out.. Not this specific one they were all different versions.

#5 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Unless Ben can convice the Other minds to let him use Alien X, Hulk takes this 10/10.

#6 Posted by RedLanternSuperman (333 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

T_T Hulk smashes

#7 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2497 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Alien X is the only one capable of beating or even lasting a second against the Hulk.

#8 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Alien X is the only one capable of beating or even lasting a second against the Hulk.

this

#9 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2273 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Hulk FTW

#10 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (900 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Alien X is the only one capable of beating or even lasting a second against the Hulk.

this

#11 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

#12 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 5 months, 21 hours ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

#13 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

#14 Posted by laflux (4959 posts) - 5 months, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

Way Big could probably beat base hulk.

#15 Posted by AllStarSuperman (3342 posts) - 5 months, 9 hours ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

All this is right and he had ultimate way big

#16 Posted by NeonGameWave (5112 posts) - 5 months, 9 hours ago - Show Bio

Ben wins.

#17 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 9 hours ago - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman: Yep I know he did but clearly I hate the Hulk for stating such a thing

#18 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

your name says it all it should be all star hater if you think that any ben aliens can beat hulk,when this whole battle been for hulk so i guess we all need to do research or is it that you need to go to hater class to stop the hate

#19 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

your name says it all it should be all star hater if you think that any ben aliens can beat hulk,when this whole battle been for hulk so i guess we all need to do research or is it that you need to go to hater class to stop the hate

Are you dense or something what does my name have to do with this battle, my name is related to my favorite character Tim Drake but that has nothing to do with the battle at hand. There's only two things that could be possibly going on here and that's either you're trolling me or your mind must be completely devoid of any intelligent thoughts. Alien X would stomp Hulk in any form and Ultimate Ben has the power of ALL(over 10,000) aliens including Alien X and yet you're telling me Ben can't beat hulk. Go do some research

#20 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades: And just in case you don't know who Alien x is this is Alien X

His feats so far include being able to rewind time, surviving a universal explosion and recreating a brand new universe in a matter of seconds

#21 Posted by Matezoide2 (15980 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

your name says it all it should be all star hater if you think that any ben aliens can beat hulk,when this whole battle been for hulk so i guess we all need to do research or is it that you need to go to hater class to stop the hate

Are you dense or something what does my name have to do with this battle, my name is related to my favorite character Tim Drake but that has nothing to do with the battle at hand. There's only two things that could be possibly going on here and that's either you're trolling me or your mind must be completely devoid of any intelligent thoughts. Alien X would stomp Hulk in any form and Ultimate Ben has the power of ALL(over 10,000) aliens including Alien X and yet you're telling me Ben can't beat hulk. Go do some research

Hang on, i dont remember Ultimate Ben using (Or even hinting that he does have) Alien X's powers. I have seen enough Ben 10 threads to know they end in flame wars, but that got my curiosity.

Not sure what he said in English, but in the sub around here, when Ben asked what powers he had, Ultimate Ben answered ''ALMOST all of them''. Maybe that doesnt includes Alien X? Fairily sure he can only acess one power at a time.

And lastly, prety sure he never used the Eon form outside of that live-action movie...did Ben even recognize Eon when they met in Ultimate Alien?

#22 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

your name says it all it should be all star hater if you think that any ben aliens can beat hulk,when this whole battle been for hulk so i guess we all need to do research or is it that you need to go to hater class to stop the hate

Are you dense or something what does my name have to do with this battle, my name is related to my favorite character Tim Drake but that has nothing to do with the battle at hand. There's only two things that could be possibly going on here and that's either you're trolling me or your mind must be completely devoid of any intelligent thoughts. Alien X would stomp Hulk in any form and Ultimate Ben has the power of ALL(over 10,000) aliens including Alien X and yet you're telling me Ben can't beat hulk. Go do some research

even the guy that made this battle and everbody else on here think hulk wins so who is doing the trolling@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades: And just in case you don't know who Alien x is this is Alien X

His feats so far include being able to rewind time, surviving a universal explosion and recreating a brand new universe in a matter of seconds

and if you look at my first comment thats what i said thats the only way he could beat hulk

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@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Alien X is the only one capable of beating or even lasting a second against the Hulk.

this

#23 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Matezoide2 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

your name says it all it should be all star hater if you think that any ben aliens can beat hulk,when this whole battle been for hulk so i guess we all need to do research or is it that you need to go to hater class to stop the hate

Are you dense or something what does my name have to do with this battle, my name is related to my favorite character Tim Drake but that has nothing to do with the battle at hand. There's only two things that could be possibly going on here and that's either you're trolling me or your mind must be completely devoid of any intelligent thoughts. Alien X would stomp Hulk in any form and Ultimate Ben has the power of ALL(over 10,000) aliens including Alien X and yet you're telling me Ben can't beat hulk. Go do some research

Hang on, i dont remember Ultimate Ben using (Or even hinting that he does have) Alien X's powers. I have seen enough Ben 10 threads to know they end in flame wars, but that got my curiosity.

Not sure what he said in English, but in the sub around here, when Ben asked what powers he had, Ultimate Ben answered ''ALMOST all of them''. Maybe that doesnt includes Alien X? Fairily sure he can only acess one power at a time.

And lastly, prety sure he never used the Eon form outside of that live-action movie...did Ben even recognize Eon when they met in Ultimate Alien?

wow look who needs to do some research now and i think its a safe bet who the troll is and thank you red bird

#24 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Matezoide2 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Nope there's Eon, Clockwork and my personal favorite Ultimate Ben who stomps Hulk

yeah right go back to your hulk hating page you just left from

Hulk hating my *** you need to go look up some facts before opening your mouth. Both Eon and Clockwork control over time so how's Hulk going to beat them and then there's the Ultimate Ben transformation which gives Ben ALL of his alien's powers while still being in human form. Next time research before you type

your name says it all it should be all star hater if you think that any ben aliens can beat hulk,when this whole battle been for hulk so i guess we all need to do research or is it that you need to go to hater class to stop the hate

Are you dense or something what does my name have to do with this battle, my name is related to my favorite character Tim Drake but that has nothing to do with the battle at hand. There's only two things that could be possibly going on here and that's either you're trolling me or your mind must be completely devoid of any intelligent thoughts. Alien X would stomp Hulk in any form and Ultimate Ben has the power of ALL(over 10,000) aliens including Alien X and yet you're telling me Ben can't beat hulk. Go do some research

Hang on, i dont remember Ultimate Ben using (Or even hinting that he does have) Alien X's powers. I have seen enough Ben 10 threads to know they end in flame wars, but that got my curiosity.

Not sure what he said in English, but in the sub around here, when Ben asked what powers he had, Ultimate Ben answered ''ALMOST all of them''. Maybe that doesnt includes Alien X? Fairily sure he can only acess one power at a time.

And lastly, prety sure he never used the Eon form outside of that live-action movie...did Ben even recognize Eon when they met in Ultimate Alien?

Yes Ben did recognize Eon when they met but the Ultimate alien episode did imply that he still retains the Eon transformation(just like the Nanomac transformation) but that he just doesn't use it for unknown reasons. Also I'm sure Ultimate Ben could access all of the aliens he had access to during the Alien Force and Ultimate Alien seasons, however your question is quite valid as the almost all of them response was a bit vague as it could have also meant that he only had access to the Aliens already shown, that being said though Asmith did say that the Ultimate Ben transformation was inside the watch and Ben couldn't access it just yet. However yes Ben can only use one Alien's powers at a time(I think) but remember with Master control Ben transformers at the speed of thought. As it stands though there is nothing disproving the fact that he could use Alien X's powers within the Ultimate Ben transformation though. As it stands the only two aliens that haven't been shown in the Alien Force and Ultimate Alien seasons were the two the other Ben 10,000 used in the original series. the two aliens were Articguana and there other was unnamed. It also wasn't my intent to turn this into a flame war but the simple fact that he was under rating Ben's aliens

#25 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades: Except Ben has two time controlling aliens at his disposal, an alien whose exact strength limit has not been shown(Four Arms), an Alien who could possibly absorb his radiation(NRG), two aliens who could go intangible(Ghostfreak and Big Chill), an alien who controls Gravity(Gravitrax) and so many more options

#26 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades: Except Ben has two time controlling aliens at his disposal, an alien whose exact strength limit has not been shown(Four Arms), an Alien who could possibly absorb his radiation(NRG), two aliens who could go intangible(Ghostfreak and Big Chill), an alien who controls Gravity(Gravitrax) and so many more options

all which hulk has beaten in marvel before

#27 Posted by AllStarSuperman (3342 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades: Except Ben has two time controlling aliens at his disposal, an alien whose exact strength limit has not been shown(Four Arms), an Alien who could possibly absorb his radiation(NRG), two aliens who could go intangible(Ghostfreak and Big Chill), an alien who controls Gravity(Gravitrax) and so many more options

all which hulk has beaten in marvel before

Who

#28 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades: Except Ben has two time controlling aliens at his disposal, an alien whose exact strength limit has not been shown(Four Arms), an Alien who could possibly absorb his radiation(NRG), two aliens who could go intangible(Ghostfreak and Big Chill), an alien who controls Gravity(Gravitrax) and so many more options

all which hulk has beaten in marvel before

Wrong Hulk has never faced any of those aliens since they do not exist in the Marvel universe but he may have faced people with similar powers but no one like Ben who has all of those powers and more.

Now there's a mistake I made when replying to Matezoide2 and that's when I said Ben had not used Articguana since the first series and I was wrong because he did in fact use ArticGuana in the episode as Ultimate Ben. As it also stands it seems Ultimate Ben needs to simply tap his chest and call out the name of which ever alien's powers he wants to use. Like I said before Ultimate Ben is indeed Ben's most powerful transformation

#29 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1868 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder: I agree. If Ben has access to all of his Aliens, he could soundly thrash Mr. Banner.

#30 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406: The OP gave Ben access to all his aliens but everyone was quick to say that only Alien X could beat him aside from Jack Of Spades who told me I was "Hulk hating" if I thought Ben's aliens could beat the hulk

#31 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades: Except Ben has two time controlling aliens at his disposal, an alien whose exact strength limit has not been shown(Four Arms), an Alien who could possibly absorb his radiation(NRG), two aliens who could go intangible(Ghostfreak and Big Chill), an alien who controls Gravity(Gravitrax) and so many more options

all which hulk has beaten in marvel before

Who

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@jackofspades: Except Ben has two time controlling aliens at his disposal, an alien whose exact strength limit has not been shown(Four Arms), an Alien who could possibly absorb his radiation(NRG), two aliens who could go intangible(Ghostfreak and Big Chill), an alien who controls Gravity(Gravitrax) and so many more options

all which hulk has beaten in marvel before

Wrong Hulk has never faced any of those aliens since they do not exist in the Marvel universe but he may have faced people with similar powers but no one like Ben who has all of those powers and more.

Now there's a mistake I made when replying to Matezoide2 and that's when I said Ben had not used Articguana since the first series and I was wrong because he did in fact use ArticGuana in the episode as Ultimate Ben. As it also stands it seems Ultimate Ben needs to simply tap his chest and call out the name of which ever alien's powers he wants to use. Like I said before Ultimate Ben is indeed Ben's most powerful transformation

what is wrong with you people didnt you read i said in marvel not in ben universe and you are right about ben not having power like people in marvel there powers are better MARRY XMAS

#32 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1868 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder: Don't mind that troll. They were probably a Hulk fanboy.

Anyway there are numerous things Ben could do. He could have Ultimate Big Chill freeze Hulk from the inside out and break him or send him a few centuries into the past/future. Or have Ghostfreak make him tear his head off. Or even use the clone method and get a bunch of different aliens to make it a complete stomp. So no Alien X is not the only one who could take the guy down.

#33 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades: You have something against Ben I see.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder: Don't mind that troll. They were probably a Hulk fanboy.

Anyway there are numerous things Ben could do. He could have Ultimate Big Chill freeze Hulk from the inside out and break him or send him a few centuries into the past/future. Or have Ghostfreak make him tear his head off. Or even use the clone method and get a bunch of different aliens to make it a complete stomp. So no Alien X is not the only one who could take the guy down.

Exactly, I'd almost forgotten the fact that Ben made clones of himself by splitting apart as Echo Echo and then turned back into his human form and yet each one of his clones were able to turn into different aliens

#34 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder: Don't mind that troll. They were probably a Hulk fanboy.

Anyway there are numerous things Ben could do. He could have Ultimate Big Chill freeze Hulk from the inside out and break him or send him a few centuries into the past/future. Or have Ghostfreak make him tear his head off. Or even use the clone method and get a bunch of different aliens to make it a complete stomp. So no Alien X is not the only one who could take the guy down.

with all the crap you are saying ben could do have he ever freeze somebody inside out and break him EVER or you just a ben fanboy at 45 years old

#35 Posted by Sylvain (976 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Alien X or Hulk smash YOU DECIDE!

#36 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1868 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder: Yep, I always keep it in mind for Ben threads. The only thing is not knowing how many he can make and that scared one. But other than that it allows him to kick a lot more butt.

#37 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Sylvain: Neither Ben has multiple ways of putting the Hulk down. You guys are really downplaying Ben

#38 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406: I agree. I really hate seeing Ben downplayed though

#39 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1868 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder: Don't mind that troll. They were probably a Hulk fanboy.

Anyway there are numerous things Ben could do. He could have Ultimate Big Chill freeze Hulk from the inside out and break him or send him a few centuries into the past/future. Or have Ghostfreak make him tear his head off. Or even use the clone method and get a bunch of different aliens to make it a complete stomp. So no Alien X is not the only one who could take the guy down.

with all the crap you are saying ben could do have he ever freeze somebody inside out and break him EVER or you just a ben fanboy at 45 years old

1. Your grammar is atrocious. But I guess trolls aren't supposed to know how to read and write in the first place, huh?

2. It would be easy to do so. He has frozen entire structures before just by passing through them. To break him would be only a small step extra. Or like I said, while Hulk is frozen send him a few centuries into the past/future or chuck him into orbit.

3. 45? Dear me. Making bold assumptions are we? I am nowhere close but feel free to try again though.

#40 Edited by Sylvain (976 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@Sylvain: Neither Ben has multiple ways of putting the Hulk down. You guys are really downplaying Ben

Spiderman=Ben Hulk=Hulk

Because you know this guys isnt Hulk

so dont under estimate him because you know this pic.....

isnt an joke

#41 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Sylvain: Yeaaaaahhhh No

#42 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1868 posts) - 4 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder: Lol, what is this thread coming to?

So anyway I think the people with common sense can agree that Ben wins here.

#43 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406: Yup we can. I think I'm going to make a Ben 10 respect thread at some point

#44 Posted by JonSmith (2471 posts) - 4 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

So anyway I think the people with common sense can agree that Ben wins here.

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

Yup we can. I think I'm going to make a Ben 10 respect thread at some point

Ben has the potential to win. He has aliens capable of doing the job, but this is a random encounter. Ben's resourceful when he has to be (such as when the Omnitrix didn't work for him in his younger years), but he prefers to use brute force rather than finesse. For example, the vast majority of the time, in the original series, his first choice alien was ALWAYS Four Arms. He rarely got him, but unless it was a special objective, such as an underwater or flying target, he always tried for Four Arms. As he got older, when the Omnitrix recalibrated itself, he started preferring Swampfire and Humungasour (don't think I spelled that right), but the principle held.

Even Ultimate Ben preferred just smashing the bad guys, using Humongasour's powers as an opener.

Ben's on a timer here. Even if he can use Ultimate Ben, most, if not all, of his aliens have fairly low endurance against someone with the power of the Hulk. He gets hit once or twice, he's gone. He see's Hulk charging and roaring, Ben's going to be cocky. He'll immediately make a wisecrack, use Humongasour or Waybig, and smash Hulk. Hulk won't be too bothered, since he gets hit by people a LOT stronger regularly. Even if he does get hurt, that'll just make him mad. He'll hit back, Ben goes down.

Let's say that doesn't take Ben out right there. Let's say the alien Ben uses is durable enough to survive a shot from an angry Hulk. He gets back up, decides not to get hit again, and goes Big Chill. Flies into Hulk, freezes him. Since the OP didn't state it, I'm presuming this morals on Ben. He won't shatter Hulk. He'll fly out and think that's that. Hulk will bust out of the ice, and charge, even angrier. Ben'll go intangible, then Ultimate. He'll blast Hulk, but this won't put Hulk down.He'll realize that while he can't be hit by Hulk, he also can't put Hulk down as Big Chill. Worse, having used the Ultimate form, he'll be tired. That's why he uses them sparingly. That, and they scare him. Having realized that he can't put Hulk down with energy blasts, or in a brawl, he'll go for a one hit KO: Waybig. Waybig never fails against a smaller foe, in Ben's mind. So Ben will try to smash Hulk, Hulk will tackle Ben and smash him. Say he goes for the legs, Hulk breaks Ben's legs and Ben loses focus. Unable to gather concentration to transform from pain, Hulk keeps smashing. Say he goes for the chest, Ben gets a shattered ribcage. Say he goes for the arm, broken arm. Etc. Ben's predilection for brute force instead of finesse will be the death of him here.

In conclusion, yes, I freely admit that some of Ben's aliens have the power to take some versions of the Hulk down. But Ben will beat himself here. He won't immediately go for the time manipulator, or even try NRG to drain Hulk, because he won't know Hulk's powered by gamma rays.

Now granted, I haven't seen that new Ben 10: Omniverse, or the latter half or so of Ben 10: Ultimate Alien. Kinda burned out on 'em due to the art style getting worse and worse, along with the general dullness of the alien designs compared to the original ones. Perhaps Ben has changed a great deal since then. But I doubt it.

#45 Posted by Destinyhero20 (358 posts) - 4 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@JonSmith said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

So anyway I think the people with common sense can agree that Ben wins here.

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

Yup we can. I think I'm going to make a Ben 10 respect thread at some point

Ben has the potential to win. He has aliens capable of doing the job, but this is a random encounter. Ben's resourceful when he has to be (such as when the Omnitrix didn't work for him in his younger years), but he prefers to use brute force rather than finesse. For example, the vast majority of the time, in the original series, his first choice alien was ALWAYS Four Arms. He rarely got him, but unless it was a special objective, such as an underwater or flying target, he always tried for Four Arms. As he got older, when the Omnitrix recalibrated itself, he started preferring Swampfire and Humungasour (don't think I spelled that right), but the principle held.

Even Ultimate Ben preferred just smashing the bad guys, using Humongasour's powers as an opener.

Ben's on a timer here. Even if he can use Ultimate Ben, most, if not all, of his aliens have fairly low endurance against someone with the power of the Hulk. He gets hit once or twice, he's gone. He see's Hulk charging and roaring, Ben's going to be cocky. He'll immediately make a wisecrack, use Humongasour or Waybig, and smash Hulk. Hulk won't be too bothered, since he gets hit by people a LOT stronger regularly. Even if he does get hurt, that'll just make him mad. He'll hit back, Ben goes down.

Let's say that doesn't take Ben out right there. Let's say the alien Ben uses is durable enough to survive a shot from an angry Hulk. He gets back up, decides not to get hit again, and goes Big Chill. Flies into Hulk, freezes him. Since the OP didn't state it, I'm presuming this morals on Ben. He won't shatter Hulk. He'll fly out and think that's that. Hulk will bust out of the ice, and charge, even angrier. Ben'll go intangible, then Ultimate. He'll blast Hulk, but this won't put Hulk down.He'll realize that while he can't be hit by Hulk, he also can't put Hulk down as Big Chill. Worse, having used the Ultimate form, he'll be tired. That's why he uses them sparingly. That, and they scare him. Having realized that he can't put Hulk down with energy blasts, or in a brawl, he'll go for a one hit KO: Waybig. Waybig never fails against a smaller foe, in Ben's mind. So Ben will try to smash Hulk, Hulk will tackle Ben and smash him. Say he goes for the legs, Hulk breaks Ben's legs and Ben loses focus. Unable to gather concentration to transform from pain, Hulk keeps smashing. Say he goes for the chest, Ben gets a shattered ribcage. Say he goes for the arm, broken arm. Etc. Ben's predilection for brute force instead of finesse will be the death of him here.

In conclusion, yes, I freely admit that some of Ben's aliens have the power to take some versions of the Hulk down. But Ben will beat himself here. He won't immediately go for the time manipulator, or even try NRG to drain Hulk, because he won't know Hulk's powered by gamma rays.

Now granted, I haven't seen that new Ben 10: Omniverse, or the latter half or so of Ben 10: Ultimate Alien. Kinda burned out on 'em due to the art style getting worse and worse, along with the general dullness of the alien designs compared to the original ones. Perhaps Ben has changed a great deal since then. But I doubt it.

I agree with that and no Ben haven't change

#46 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 4 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@JonSmith: Very well thought post and I'll come back with a counter argument later. Later and Merry Christmas

#47 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 4 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@jackofspades said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder: Don't mind that troll. They were probably a Hulk fanboy.

Anyway there are numerous things Ben could do. He could have Ultimate Big Chill freeze Hulk from the inside out and break him or send him a few centuries into the past/future. Or have Ghostfreak make him tear his head off. Or even use the clone method and get a bunch of different aliens to make it a complete stomp. So no Alien X is not the only one who could take the guy down.

with all the crap you are saying ben could do have he ever freeze somebody inside out and break him EVER or you just a ben fanboy at 45 years old

1. Your grammar is atrocious. But I guess trolls aren't supposed to know how to read and write in the first place, huh?

2. It would be easy to do so. He has frozen entire structures before just by passing through them. To break him would be only a small step extra. Or like I said, while Hulk is frozen send him a few centuries into the past/future or chuck him into orbit.

3. 45? Dear me. Making bold assumptions are we? I am nowhere close but feel free to try again though.

atrocious huh well what would ill expect from the king of the big bang theory fan club

#48 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1868 posts) - 4 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@JonSmith: indeed well put. But I must disagree. First, I'll say that if this is morals on for Ben. There is no way he can win as it is impossible to k.o. hulk without reality warp or magic. So its either morals off or mismatch. And please don't think I say this out of fanboyism. Now if ben can tank one punch from hulk, he will know hulk's strength and go for hax. And if he goes swapfire like you said, then its really OK. Hulk tears SF apart and walks away. Ben changes and gets a surprise attack. Even punt him into orbit as way big.

@jackofspades: Dude stop saying dumb things. It makes you sound immature which is not popular with the ladies.

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