@UltimateHero0406 said:
So anyway I think the people with common sense can agree that Ben wins here.
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
Yup we can. I think I'm going to make a Ben 10 respect thread at some point
Ben has the potential to win. He has aliens capable of doing the job, but this is a random encounter. Ben's resourceful when he has to be (such as when the Omnitrix didn't work for him in his younger years), but he prefers to use brute force rather than finesse. For example, the vast majority of the time, in the original series, his first choice alien was ALWAYS Four Arms. He rarely got him, but unless it was a special objective, such as an underwater or flying target, he always tried for Four Arms. As he got older, when the Omnitrix recalibrated itself, he started preferring Swampfire and Humungasour (don't think I spelled that right), but the principle held.
Even Ultimate Ben preferred just smashing the bad guys, using Humongasour's powers as an opener.
Ben's on a timer here. Even if he can use Ultimate Ben, most, if not all, of his aliens have fairly low endurance against someone with the power of the Hulk. He gets hit once or twice, he's gone. He see's Hulk charging and roaring, Ben's going to be cocky. He'll immediately make a wisecrack, use Humongasour or Waybig, and smash Hulk. Hulk won't be too bothered, since he gets hit by people a LOT stronger regularly. Even if he does get hurt, that'll just make him mad. He'll hit back, Ben goes down.
Let's say that doesn't take Ben out right there. Let's say the alien Ben uses is durable enough to survive a shot from an angry Hulk. He gets back up, decides not to get hit again, and goes Big Chill. Flies into Hulk, freezes him. Since the OP didn't state it, I'm presuming this morals on Ben. He won't shatter Hulk. He'll fly out and think that's that. Hulk will bust out of the ice, and charge, even angrier. Ben'll go intangible, then Ultimate. He'll blast Hulk, but this won't put Hulk down.He'll realize that while he can't be hit by Hulk, he also can't put Hulk down as Big Chill. Worse, having used the Ultimate form, he'll be tired. That's why he uses them sparingly. That, and they scare him. Having realized that he can't put Hulk down with energy blasts, or in a brawl, he'll go for a one hit KO: Waybig. Waybig never fails against a smaller foe, in Ben's mind. So Ben will try to smash Hulk, Hulk will tackle Ben and smash him. Say he goes for the legs, Hulk breaks Ben's legs and Ben loses focus. Unable to gather concentration to transform from pain, Hulk keeps smashing. Say he goes for the chest, Ben gets a shattered ribcage. Say he goes for the arm, broken arm. Etc. Ben's predilection for brute force instead of finesse will be the death of him here.
In conclusion, yes, I freely admit that some of Ben's aliens have the power to take some versions of the Hulk down. But Ben will beat himself here. He won't immediately go for the time manipulator, or even try NRG to drain Hulk, because he won't know Hulk's powered by gamma rays.
Now granted, I haven't seen that new Ben 10: Omniverse, or the latter half or so of Ben 10: Ultimate Alien. Kinda burned out on 'em due to the art style getting worse and worse, along with the general dullness of the alien designs compared to the original ones. Perhaps Ben has changed a great deal since then. But I doubt it.
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