@darkraiden: Hope Summers would be rendered comatose within seconds by either telepath. Multiple man vs Iceman in an army battle plus Iceman's omega level powers. Mister Immortal would be phased into the ground and Magneto is weak in current continuity so he would downed so easily.
@darkraiden: Hope Summers would be rendered comatose within seconds by either telepath. Multiple man vs Iceman in an army battle plus Iceman's omega level powers. Mister Immortal would be phased into the ground and Magneto is weak in current continuity so he would downed so easily.
Except....no. Maybe Magneto (I have no idea what he's doing) but Hope has telepathic shields from the phoenix force supposedly and her very presence copies their powers so....if they have defenses, now she does. She also has Iceman's powers, is Immortal thanks to Mister Immortal and can now make clones cause Multiple Man. Not to sure on Magneto, may replace him with Storm or Rogue or something, but Hope wins due to being a mutant mimic of sorts.
Multiple Man's also very hard to put down even with ice man's powers. Mister Immortal is inconsequential just here to give Hope's clones immortality on a serious level.
@darkraiden: Phoenix is gone, she also has so little skill in regards to telepathy. If she was rendered comatose I don't think she can use anyone's powers. My telepaths can take down everyone with the exception of Magneto because of his helmet. Multiple man is just so easy to defeat in this battle. Mr Immortal has little other than his power, so I doubt that he can do much here.
She doesn't need skill...she gets your telepaths skills by being near them. Thus they can't make her comatose since her telepathy is as strong as theirs.
Yes but telepaths need a degree of control and finesse in a battle especially against two omega level telepaths. Her power means nothing when fighting two very experienced telepaths. She doesn't duplicate their experience and control just their power.
"Her telekinesis and reaction timing are so great that she was capable of stopping a bullet in mid air that was fired by Bishop. Her telepathy was strong enough for her to be able to sense Bishop's presence."
http://www.comicvine.com/hope-summers/4005-49329/
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Empathic Power Mimicry: The limits of this power have yet to be reached or determined.[33] She does not need to physically touch her subjects (as with Rogue), nor does it appear as though her using an individual's powers subtracts at all from their own power level. It appears that Hope needs to be in close proximity to subjects to exhibit their powers,[28] and that powers fade with distance from subject. She can only copy mutant powers.The powers Hope has demonstrated so far include:
Power and Aura Absorption: from Rogue. She touched Rogue and survived without any damage and erased all of the previous memories and abilities Rogue had absorbed, including those of the Hecatomb. She also cured Rogue of the Strain 88 virus.[34]
Telekinesis and Telepathy: from Cable. Using telekinesis, she was able to stop a bullet in midair, and she was able to sense Bishop's presence using telepathy.[2] When she was finally reunited with her father, she again mimicked his telekinesis and upon contact with him may have briefly gain precognition.[35]:"
So she's had telepathy before. She has experience. She won't be getting taken down by those 2. Maybe if it was Emma you could make a case, but I have to disagree with those two.
They must be alive in current 616 continuity, you also cannot use Daken and Banshee because of Death Seed.
No prep.
Battle takes place in the Jean Grey school Grounds.
Fantomex
Scarlet Witch
Eden Fesi
Quake
Fantomex gives the misdirection trick. Scarlet Witch as the widlcard. Eden Fesi BFRs your team. Quake cant be tracked by TP thus creates an earthquake in all your brains. Hows that?
@darkraiden: Hope Summers would be rendered comatose within seconds by either telepath. Multiple man vs Iceman in an army battle plus Iceman's omega level powers. Mister Immortal would be phased into the ground and Magneto is weak in current continuity so he would downed so easily.
Except....no. Maybe Magneto (I have no idea what he's doing) but Hope has telepathic shields from the phoenix force supposedly and her very presence copies their powers so....if they have defenses, now she does. She also has Iceman's powers, is Immortal thanks to Mister Immortal and can now make clones cause Multiple Man. Not to sure on Magneto, may replace him with Storm or Rogue or something, but Hope wins due to being a mutant mimic of sorts.
Multiple Man's also very hard to put down even with ice man's powers. Mister Immortal is inconsequential just here to give Hope's clones immortality on a serious level.
@darkraiden: I doubt that the experience she has had is enough to defeat two omega level Telepaths who have been telepaths since puberty. They have had so much more experience than her, the telepathy she had was on and off, I get that she was with Cable during her childhood, but she wouldn't have used it as much as these two, one thing is that they are older than her, and considerably more powerful in regards to telepathy.
Look at the name you used. Cable. Cable, the guy who needed Silver Surfer to come down to earth just to beat him at his peak. Yeah I think she has the experience and skill to at least block their assault. Also like to mention that she's an expert at combat just from watching Cable. She picks up things fast, no reason why she wouldn't pick up skill with TP just as fast.
@darkraiden: Combat is completely different to Telepathic combat. Psylocke and Rachel know how to get deep inside someone's mind alone they could beat her, together they would stomp. Telepathy can take so long to master, Hope doesn't telepathy as much as Rachel and Betsy, Cable may be powerful but like I said power can mean nothing against someone's experience. Their combined knowledge would allow them to shut down Hope's powers let alone her mind.
You know Martial arts takes over 40 years to master and Hope had it down before she was like 15? Yeah the time doesn't matter, she's likely mastered telepathic combat as well, from Cable. Psylocke's not even a factor btw, but even Rachel won't be taking down Hope. And yes, power>>>>>>experience all the time. Sometimes someone's mind is simply too powerful.
@runawayavenger: Kid Omega just has to run interference for a bit while Northstar can speed blitz before the telepaths react. Magik has psy shields and she can bfr and divide and conqure or send demons and can use hell fire and soul attacks vs Bobby, she can affect intangible beings like Kitty and has numerous ways to take out both Rachel and Betsy. Ilyana would be able to port Loa right on top of opponents as well.
@darkraiden: Why isn't Psylocke a factor? Actually Hope is pretty weak at fighting to be honest, nothing compared to Betsy or Kitty.
Psylocke's not strong enough from what I know of her. Only Rachel really matters. And it explicitly says Hope has mastered combat.
"Hope has learned to fight from Cable by observing him. Hope was further tutored in survival techniques, various hand-held firearms and blades, stealth, CPR, combat first-aid, warfare strategy, and some gymnastics."
@dwrathborne: William is dead, Karma would be a problem yet I don't see Aurora or Asylum being a big threat and would most likely be stopped by a telepath.
Huh. He wasn't listed as being dead in the article. Oh well. The others, well, I just kinda picked 'em cause they're nuts (and I knew nobody else would likely be using them). Telepaths tend to have problems dealing with insane minds. Plus, ya know, Aurora's whole light and speed thing and Asylum capable of BFRing everybody into the Dark Dimension. But thanks for the heads up.
I can see where you are coming from with the whole speed blitzing from Aurora but how could she touch Shadowcat or stop an army of recreating icemen? Also if asylum were to teleport them into the Dark Dimension the Psylocke and Rachel could go into their astral forms and take the others out of my team and place them in a psychic barrier from the fears occurring from the Darkforce. As such utilising Rachel's chronoskimming they could send Kitty back in time to a couple of minutes before they were sent, and phase him into the ground. Therefore they could continue the battle with the other three.
Well, I see it as Karma controlling Iceman, Genocide providing a distraction for Aurora to take down Psylocke or Rachel (maybe both?) Asylum doing his thing to Shadowcat.
I don't know. Just throwing out the flypaper and seeing what sticks. :)
@kidman560: I am specific on rules, they have to be alive in 616 continuity. Also Deadpool isn't a mutant.
really deadpool is who you are concerned with not Franklin Richards who could wipe your team out of existence. ok fine Replace Deadpool for X-23 Trigger Scent and boom your team dies
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