beat my versatile team

1. mr. majestic (without creation blades of course) (muscle)
2. shaman x-man (psionic)
3. silver surfer (energy manipulator)
4. damion hellstorm (hell magic)
5. spawn (odd ball)

rules

• fight will start in the air (1000 meter above ground)
• fight is in barren indestructible earth
• characters morals off, out of character
• no one above herald tier (i.e a tier below thanos or darkseid)
  
• 5 characters team
• can not go out of earth's atmosphere
• win by any means
• no prep time would be given

Clear Note(Zatch Bell)

Fate Averruncus

Piccolo

Invincible

Superman

@deathhero61:

pfft .. my team wins

Kruse

MMH

Quasar

Ghost Rider

Loki

still my team wins :D .. in every department

mr. majestic > kurse

shaman x-man > MMH

silver surfer > quasar

spawn > ghost rider

hellstorm > loki

Squirrel Girl.

no one above herald tier

MMH, Thor, Ultraman, Black Adam, Sinestro.

not sure what's your division is .. umm .. i'm gonna say like this

shaman x-man > MMH

mr. majestic > ultraman

hellstorm > black adam

silver surfer > sinestro

and i don't know how spawn and thor will fare against each other

Billis (Dbz)

Dr Strange

Fernus

Thanos

Martian Manhunt

Mmh and Fernus take out x man

bills blitzes with Mftl speed solar system energy and planet+ striking and durability

Thanos and Strange run interference

Archangel Gabriel

Classic Juggernaut

Ichiryuu

Death Seed Sentry

The Darkness(Jackie)

May i ask why and how?

@homicidalmaniac: @easternwind:

no one above herald tier .. that was the ONLY condition.. both of you guys teams are disqualified (not sure about homic's team though) :D

because your team can't put down mine.... well that's what i think.. care to elaborate how your team beats mine?

Flash.

Zoom

Darkseid.

Fernus.

Starro.

tsk tsk tsk.....soo much wrong in this team

first off .. the battle starts above 1000 meters from ground ... so flash and zoom falls from there

secondly... darkseid, fernus and starro all are above herald tier .. which was the limit

Squirrel Girl, Bomb Queen, Axe Cop, Batman, and Captain Kirk.

Squirrel Girl, Bomb Queen, Axe Cop, Batman, and Captain Kirk.

squirrel girl and batman are above herald tier .. don't know axe cop and captain kirk though

@ssj_god: Well can YOU elaborate on your team first so i can get a good idea of my chances and how i can win?

@ssj_god: Batman and Kirk hack your thread, editing it so that it specifically includes my team. Then they bring down the PIS smackdown.

well .. i asked you to elaborate because i don't know few of your characters and don't know if they are under herald tier .. nothing else :D

ohh my..

are you tallking about thanos?
Honestly Mr Majestic and Shaman are prolly above herald.

@easternwind:

nah .. majestic and x-man (not just shaman .. because only shaman is another character :D).. are high herald level characters

and in your team , thanos and fernus are above herald tier.. classic strange is above herald tier .. and i really don't know where to gauge bills :D

@ssj_god: I was going with current strange, Fernus isnt above herald tier, Thanos I guess is, but restricted to herald 9/10 of teams would stale mate, especially with Nate and Majestic. Maybe I will make another team later.

Your name is ssj god. You have NO idea how sad I am you cant gauge billis

To... boldly stomp, where, nomanhasstompedbefore.

Darkseid

Captain Atom

Despero

Zoom

Protege (No powers... at the start of the fight)

fernus is above herald tier .. that's a fact ... if it's current strange .. then he can't defeat hellstorm in magic.... and well bills powers weren't shown well ... by hype .. he should be well over herald tier .. but i guess nothing can be said without well known feats

darkseid, despero are above herald tier.. protege also kinda above herald tier for his ability.. zoom dies by falling from 1000 meters where the fight starts... and captain atom varies so much in power depending on the avatar that you have to mention which version .. though in their clash.. majestic looked superior to him

your team was over herald tier .. and you cheated by hacking

Cyborg Superman

Wally West

Black Alice

Hourman one million

Kyle Rayner

@ssj_god: So fernus is above herald tier but Nate grey is not? Care to define herald tier? These terms have always seemed weird to me and different people use them waaay differently

And I dont go by Hype.

Billis showed:

• Planet Busting Strikes ( with ease)
• FTL Speed ( 0 to lightspeed most likely, since thats how DB works)
• Planet+ Energy projection
• Planetary Durability ( with EASE, like, he toyed with plantery punches)
• and By a statement I would take seriously given what he has shown, the history of DBZ, and that fact the statement was from his master, Solar System level Energy Projection

majestic > cyborg Superman

silver surfer > kyle rayner

i have no idea about black alice and hourman one million

wally dies by falling from 1000 meters .. where the fight starts.

@joygirl:

Squirrel Girl, Bomb Queen, Axe Cop, Batman, and Captain Kirk.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! "Oh the humanity!!!!!!" LOL. I love this team! ^-^

I can flip it around easily.

Cyborg Superman>X-man. He can hurt energy beings.

Kyle>Surfer. More raw power and he's already drained him in a canon crossover.

Black Alice>Hellstorm. She drains power from magical beings.

Wally>Majestic. He can run in the air, so that's not a problem.

Hourman>Spawn. De-ages him into a baby.

fernus should be stronger than shaman nate... and fernus killed the JLA ... a genuine JLA team buster .. like darkseid, despero .. fernus is also above herald tier..

i gauge shaman nate around silver surfer (high herald tier).. it was also stated in dark x-men .. that nate will hold stalemate against sentry .. sooo .. that should be a perfect high herald tier (see the thing is .. i do favor some characters.. but i don't go overboard with them)

well .. with bills .. we can say things based on assumptions (like the speed, tanking planet busting punches .. etc etc..) .. but no definite feats were shown with which we can gauge him correctly .. all he did was fight with ssj god .. and just like him .. we .. well at least i can't gauge ssj god except assumptions too.

@ssj_god:

majestic > cyborg Superman

silver surfer > kyle rayner

i have no idea about black alice and hourman one million

wally dies by falling from 1000 meters .. where the fight starts.

Both are WAYYYYYYY above "Herald" level! By a long shot.

This.

Not really. Hourman just sort of bypasses certain rules by not having much raw power. Alice just takes powers from other magic users, but if she takes it from people too powerful she loses them quickly, so she can't use Spectre or Nabu for more than a second.

• how does hurting energy beings makes him stronger than nate? o.O .. nate can stay as a psionic being.. true.. but he doesn't always stay as a psionic being .. and psionic energy =/= energy
• no crossovers are canon .. and kyle can't beat surfer
• i don't know black alice .. but hellstorm is not just a magical being
• wally has once ran in the space .. where there weren't gravity .. care to show when he ran in the air inside earth's atmosphere?
• spawn is immortal outside of dead's zone .. how's he de-aging an immortal? o.O.. again i don't know him well

and as per our fellow viner

;)

Ummm... I think people who complain about powerscaling may have confused you... Not ALL feats against other characters are invalid. He doesn't need to sit on a planet exploding to have that level of durability.

Goku Busted a planet with a punch, , Billis tanked a punch at full force

I can prove the other stuff too, the only thing you have to take on a bit of an assumtion is his Energy projection

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She doesn't lose them that quickly. She can't hold on to it for hours but she's held on to Spectre and Nabu for long enough for it to count, and stated later that she was confident she could channel Spectre again.

She can also channel two powers simultaneously.

Not to mention the fact that she channels in an instant so it can't be prevented/she can't be blitzed.

Griffith

Griffith

Griffith

Griffith

Griffith

@easternwind:

i see where u're going .. but it would be very hard to prove.. that the punches bills tanked were planet busters .. because .. if someone able to dishout planet buster punches, doesn't mean they always punch with that power .. as a matter of fact .. they hardly use that kind of force.. so without having assumption on the power of the punches .. we can't say he has planetary durability... abc logic doesn't always work

@ssj_god:

• how does hurting energy beings makes him stronger than nate? o.O .. nate can stay as a psionic being.. true.. but he doesn't always stay as a psionic being .. and psionic energy =/= energy

• Psionic energy is energy. One blast is all it takes.

• no crossovers are canon .. and kyle can't beat surfer

This crossover is. It was referenced by Hal and Cyborg Superman.

• i don't know black alice .. but hellstorm is not just a magical being

• She'll just take power from Dr. Fate or Shade or Alan Scott or Zatanna.

• wally has once ran in the space .. where there weren't gravity .. care to show when he ran in the air inside earth's atmosphere?

• I've seen scans where he has fine. It's clear Wally lacks the need for traction.

• spawn is immortal outside of dead's zone .. how's he de-aging an immortal? o.O.. again i don't know him well

Not so much de-aging as much as returning him to a point in time where he was weakest.

And immortality doesn't stop DE-aging.

Thor

Beta Ray Bill

Superman Prime

Sentry

Dr. Fate

nope.. psionic energy isn't normal energy .. and how does one blast will it take? .. nate can break and reform his structure.... he doesn't even need to go to his psionic form for this.

i don't see which crossover u're talking about being canon .. none is canon

show me scans wally running on air with having gravity pulling him.... i have not seen it

i don't know other two characters .. but someone said they are way above herald tier :D

@ssj_god:

Huh. All I know about Alice comes from Secret Six, where she said she could only channel spectre for an instant.

I still think she bypasses rules.

And she can be blitzed by people faster than thought.

superman prime and classic fate are above herald tier

others can't beat my team

@cjdavis103:

well .. i don't know current toriko's powers... doesn't know others ... except

ASURA BREECHES THE HERALD TIER BOUNDARY

@highaccuser: Well, Cheetah couldn't stop her. So she's at least that fast.

And yeah, she said she couldn't do it for very long but she also hadn't tried. Later on, during Day of Vengeance, Detective Chimp went and got her for the specific purpose of power-robbing unbound Spectre and she did it without much difficulty. As usual, she can't use the more complex powers and she has difficulty with item use (she was nearly useless when she channeled Dr. Occult), but she can usually acquire and hold onto them for as long as is necessary.