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#51 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

I've started creating a 'Banned character' list on my original post, so if people could check before posting it would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)

#52 Posted by Juiceboks (9901 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright fair enough, switch out T'challa with Nightwing and Deathstroke with Warpath

#53 Posted by name12345 (560 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy: uh, it's only with characters without any powers...

ok then i say:

Nightwing

Green Arrow

Kingpin

Daredevil

Harley Quinn (before)

i don't think they would win though

#54 Posted by MasterAction (655 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Canary, Batman, Solomon Grundy (at Batman level), Green Arrow and Gwen Stacy

#55 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterAction said:

Black Canary, Batman, Solomon Grundy (at Batman level), Green Arrow and Gwen Stacy

Gwen Stacy? lol :P even though she's more than street-level material, would it be possible if you could chose someone who could put up a decent fight please :P thanks :)

Also does Solomon Grundy (at Batman level) in your team have his superhuman abilities?

#56 Edited by MasterAction (655 posts) - - Show Bio

Fine, I'll swap Gwen for Huntress. And no he doesn't have his superhuman powers, hence this being the Batman level iteration of him

#57 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterAction: Oh right thats cool, thanks :)

So how would you see the battle playing out between our teams?

#58 Posted by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

1) cassandra cain

2) daredevil

3) red hood

4) arsenal

5) lady shiva

i matched arsenal to hawkeye other than that i see these guys winning in pretty much any combination against the op team

#59 Posted by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy:

Vandal Savage

Ra's Al Ghul

Wonder Woman (depowered)

Batman

Black Canary

#60 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@zr0c00l said:

1) cassandra cain

2) daredevil

3) red hood

4) arsenal

5) lady shiva

i matched arsenal to hawkeye other than that i see these guys winning in pretty much any combination against the op team

Really? I, personally, would say that my team has the advantage. Ok, Cain could take Black Widow, but Cap has Daredevil beat, Bane could break Red Hood's back seeing as his skills are very similar to Batman's, theres probably a stalemate between Hawkeye and Arsenal, however i would give the last one to Shiva. Now the teams are down to 3 members each, and from here i believe that my team has the advantage. Would be a tough battle tho

#61 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightflash said:

@HomasTardy:

Vandal Savage

Ra's Al Ghul

Wonder Woman (depowered)

Batman

Black Canary

How would you see this battle playing out then? :)

#62 Posted by MasterAction (655 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Canary beats Black Widow in H2H- she's been trained by the greatest martial artists in the DCU and is also tactically and strategically sound (chairwoman of the JLA). Batman beats Cap due to knowing more fighting styles and having equipment always on him in his utility belt. Huntress and Zinda are on the same team but Huntress outclasses her in combat meaning Blackhawk gets taken down quick. Grundy/Bane and Hawkeye/GA will be more even but then the rest of my team can come in and help after winning their fights meaning I get a hard fought win

#63 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterAction said:

Black Canary beats Black Widow in H2H- she's been trained by the greatest martial artists in the DCU and is also tactically and strategically sound (chairwoman of the JLA). Batman beats Cap due to knowing more fighting styles and having equipment always on him in his utility belt. Huntress and Zinda are on the same team but Huntress outclasses her in combat meaning Blackhawk gets taken down quick. Grundy/Bane and Hawkeye/GA will be more even but then the rest of my team can come in and help after winning their fights meaning I get a hard fought win

Yeah I'd agree with you on this, your team seem slightly more fine-tuned than mine, which would give them the edge in this battle

#64 Posted by MasterAction (655 posts) - - Show Bio

Close one though :) nice team! Blackhawk rules, can't believe you got her before I could pick her on mine :p

#65 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterAction: Lol well it looks like you picked the right bird of prey for this battle :P

#66 Posted by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

red hood is a killer and would shoot unarmed bane in the face. hes not much like batman in morals anymore just skill which makes him more dangerous. absolutely a tough battle though overall but hood vs bane is a stomp

#67 Edited by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy: Ra's has hundres of years of experience an his skill is very high.

Vandal has thousands of years of experience and IMO top 3 H2H fighter in DC.

I threw in green arrow just because you had hawkeye and they stalemate eachother.

Black Canary has canary cry and is one of the best fighters in the DC universe and has been trained by some of the best.

Batman, well he's batman and knows 127 martial arts.

Wonder Woman is born and raised from a culture of war. The amazons grow up in a fighting culture and Batman said himself that she's more skilled than him.

Green Arrow stalemates Hawkeye. Black Canary is superior to Black Widow and can beat her H2H or easily with canary cry. Although physically superior, Batman just edges captain america in skill and has better gadgets. Ra's has beaten Bane before in a sword fight and I think he can do it in H2H too espicially since bane has no venom. As for Lady Blackhawk I dont know who she is but I saved Vandal last because he can take care of anyone oh ya so can wonder woman.

#68 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@zr0c00l: remember morals are off, so arguably Bane would be much more ruthless here making him more dangerous, would you not agree?

#69 Posted by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy said:

@zr0c00l: remember morals are off, so arguably Bane would be much more ruthless here making him more dangerous, would you not agree?

for ther other characters i agree but for ppl like bane and red hood who dont think twice about killing enemies, it doesnt really make a difference as theyre always going for the kill. also ruthlesness isnt gonna stop a bullet to the face and he doesnt have the speed to dodge. ill concede a cap over dd win though. and the arsenal hawkeye draw but cain and hood would beat their opponents quick enough and would be able to help the others. i dont know enough about lady blackhawk to say shiva would beat her quick though but shed have help if needed.

#70 Edited by Qpzmg (976 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, Bullseye, Punisher, Vandal & Green arrow. Batman beats BW, Vandal beats CA, Pinisher beasts Bane, GA beasts Hawkeye and Bullseye beats LB.

#71 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Qpzmg: If your going to post, please take it seriously

#72 Posted by scyven (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman beats black widow Saber tooth beats cap America Punisher beats bane long shot beats hawk eye Domino beats lady Blackhawk

#73 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@zr0c00l said:

@HomasTardy said:

@zr0c00l: remember morals are off, so arguably Bane would be much more ruthless here making him more dangerous, would you not agree?

for ther other characters i agree but for ppl like bane and red hood who dont think twice about killing enemies, it doesnt really make a difference as theyre always going for the kill. also ruthlesness isnt gonna stop a bullet to the face and he doesnt have the speed to dodge. ill concede a cap over dd win though. and the arsenal hawkeye draw but cain and hood would beat their opponents quick enough and would be able to help the others. i dont know enough about lady blackhawk to say shiva would beat her quick though but shed have help if needed.

Ok, so with Cap's win over Daredevil he could then help Bane out against Red Hood, so with both of them together RH doesn't really stand a chance

#74 Posted by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy: that would be absolutely true if cap can beat dd faster than hood can aim and shoot at bane which i dont see happening, i see bane falling much faster than dd. and though not a likely scenario if bane was joined by cap he could toss explosives all around. cap would be safe with shield but bane would be sidewalk pizza.

#75 Posted by War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2 (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy: TOAA

#76 Posted by robertloucksjr (1793 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy said:

I've seen quite a few of these battles on here so I thought I would do my own. I would like to know how your 5 favourite Marvel/DC street-level heroes/villains would fare against mine in a 5 on 5 fight to the death (so please don't pick all the really overpowered characters). There is no prep time, morals are off and the battle takes place in a completely empty New York City.

My 5 favourite street-level characters are:

1) Black Widow

2) Captain America

3) Bane (without venom)

4) Hawkeye

5) Lady Blackhawk

If you could say which team wins and how they do it, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for reading, I look forward to seeing your teams :)

Banned Characters (so far)

  • Winter Soldier
  • Wolverine
  • Spider-Man
  • Deathstroke
  • Midnighter
  • Black Panther
  • Luke Cage
  • Blade
  • Domino
  • Iron Fist
  • Deadpool

Using true street characters.

Shroud (blind with radar and can summon area of mystical darkness that light can't penetrate).

Daredevil (blind)

Stick (blind)

Conan with sword that won't shatter on Cap's shield

Bullseye

#77 Posted by jstndmnd (1018 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy:

1) Black Widow VS Black Hood

2) Captain America vs Moon Knight ( I just hope the fight is at night with a full moon)

3) Bane (without venom) VS Doctor Mid-Nite

4) Hawkeye VS The Hood (original powers)

5) Lady Blackhawk VS Starling

I think this team will do

#78 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Mockingbird, Punisher, Shang Chi, Green Arrow and Nick Fury. My team wins.

#79 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Qpzmg said:

Batman, Bullseye, Punisher, Black Panther & Sabertooth. Batman beats BW, Black panther beats CA, Pinisher beasts Bane, Bullseye beasts Hawkeye and Sabertooth beats LB.

@scyven said:

Batman beats black widow Saber tooth beats cap America Punisher beats bane long shot beats hawk eye Domino beats lady Blackhawk

Could you both please swap these characters, Black Panther, Sabretooth and Domino, as they are all too powerful to be classed as street-level, thanks :)

#80 Posted by sandw1tch (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Huntress

Batman

Punisher

Daredevil

Ghengis Khan

#81 Posted by Ministurt (80 posts) - - Show Bio

1) Black Widow vs Solid snake

2) Captain America vs Hawkman

3) Bane (without venom)vs Hellboy

4) Hawkeye vs Scarecrow

5) Lady Blackhawk vs Ra's Al Ghul

#82 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandw1tch said:

Huntress

Batman

Punisher

Daredevil

Ghengis Khan

Could you please swap Ghengis Khan for a Marvel or DC character please, thanks :)

@Ministurt said:

1) Black Widow vs Solid snake

2) Captain America vs Hawkman

3) Bane (without venom)vs Hellboy

4) Hawkeye vs Scarecrow

5) Lady Blackhawk vs Ra's Al Ghul

Could you please swap Solid Snake (as he is not Marvel or DC) and Hellboy (as he is not Marvel or DC and he is too strong to be street level), thanks :)

#83 Posted by Ministurt (80 posts) - - Show Bio

1) Black Widow vs Fantomex

2) Captain America vs Hawkman

3) Bane (without venom)vs Taskmaster

4) Hawkeye vs Scarecrow

5) Lady Blackhawk vs Ra's Al Ghul

#84 Posted by gingerpenny (948 posts) - - Show Bio

The Punisher - Marvel

Cole MacGrath - DC

Nathan Drake - DC

Captain America - Marvel

Michael Weston - DC

#85 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@gingerpenny said:

The Punisher - Marvel

Cole MacGrath - DC

Nathan Drake - DC

Captain America - Marvel

Michael Weston - DC

Michael Weston, Cole MacGrath and Nathan Drake are not true DC characters, so could you please swap then for other people, thanks :)

#86 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ministurt said:

1) Black Widow vs Fantomex

2) Captain America vs Hawkman

3) Bane (without venom)vs Taskmaster

4) Hawkeye vs Scarecrow

5) Lady Blackhawk vs Ra's Al Ghul

nice team, so how do you think the battle will play out?

#87 Posted by Ministurt (80 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy: In the first fight I'm just going to say Fantomex due to the fact he dosen't relly care who he kills and he can't feel pain. #2 Going with Cap becuse he can out smart Carter. #3 I want to say bane but going with taskmaster becuse he is a much better fighter and has more equipment. #4 If Scarecrow can get his gas to Hawkeye he will win but very unlikely. Finaly Ra's he can go toe to toe with Batman and hold his own for a while. What are your thoughts?

#88 Posted by Shiryu (3725 posts) - - Show Bio

Owlman

Nightwing

Connor Hawke

Prometheus

Lady Shiva

I win.

#89 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ministurt: 1) i agree that Fantomex would beat Black Widow. 2) yeah Cap is too good in my opinion for Hawkman. 3) Taskmaster is too skilled for Bane, however he would put up a good fight. 4) Hawkeye would be too quick for Scarecrow and would shoot him before he could get his fear toxin any where near Hawkeye. 5) Lady Blackhawk wouldnt stand a chance against Ra's Al Ghul.

lol I've just realised that this is exactly what you've put :P

#90 Posted by sandw1tch (28 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy: No

#91 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy said:

I've seen quite a few of these battles on here so I thought I would do my own. I would like to know how your 5 favourite Marvel/DC street-level heroes/villains would fare against mine in a 5 on 5 fight to the death (so please don't pick all the really overpowered characters). There is no prep time, morals are off and the battle takes place in a completely empty New York City.

My 5 favourite street-level characters are:

1) Black Widow

2) Captain America

3) Bane (without venom)

4) Hawkeye

5) Lady Blackhawk

If you could say which team wins and how they do it, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for reading, I look forward to seeing your teams :)

My Top 5 Favorite Street Level would probably be:

  • The Creeper (DC)
  • Beast (Marvel)
  • Taskmaster (Marvel)
  • Laura Kinney (Marvel)
  • Frank Castle (Marvel)

I think the Creeper might tilt this in my team's favor. Plus the Taskmaster is pretty tough to beat. I don't think many members of your team could handle Tasky. He's already beaten Captain America, Hawkeye, and Black Widow in the past.

Frank is just lethal, in general. As is Laura Kinney, especially with her healing factor. Then we have Beast who is probably the physical superior between both teams.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#92 Posted by laflux (16927 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy said:

Banned Characters (so far)

  • Winter Soldier
  • Wolverine
  • Spider-Man
  • Deathstroke
  • Midnighter
  • Black Panther
  • Luke Cage
  • Blade
  • Domino
  • Iron Fist
  • Deadpool
  • Sabretooth

Kaine, Daken, Fat Cobra, Ult Nuke and X-23

#93 Posted by heroesgold (608 posts) - - Show Bio

1) Karate Kid

2) US Agent

3) Kingpin

4) Power Man

5) Ultimate Moon Knight/Ronin

#94 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: Beast, The Creeper and Laura Kinney (X-23) are all too powerful, sorry. They all have superhuman abilities that give them a huge advantage in a battle.

#95 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@heroesgold said:

1) Karate Kid

2) US Agent

3) Kingpin

4) Power Man

5) Ultimate Moon Knight/Ronin

Power Man (Luke Cage) is not allowed as he is too powerful, so please could you change him for someone else thanks :)

#96 Posted by SoA (4975 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy said:

1. Punisher

2. kitty pryde

3.Nightwing

4.catman

5. Daredevil

#97 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@SoA said:

@HomasTardy said:

1. Punisher

2. kitty pryde

3.Nightwing

4.catman

5. Daredevil

A lot of people underestimate Kitty, she's way more powerful than she's made out to be. Please could you swap Kitty, she could take out the whole of my team if she wanted to, thanks :)

#98 Posted by beatboks1 (7340 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy:

So let me see if I have this.

You ask for a team of street leveller that can beat your team but every time someone lists a street leveler who is too much you ban them??

Not really much point in my making a team. if I pick any of my 5 top ten favorite street levelers you's ban most

They are Iron Fist, Longshot, Argus, Justice, Manhunter (Mark Shaw), Deadshot, Daredevil, Stealth, Black Panther, and Green Arrow. I'm going to take a punt and say only Deadshot and GA would be allowed. If I included some non DC I'd only add one that would fit your idea of street level., that would be Jackaroo, maybe Lt Smith.

#99 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1 said:

@HomasTardy:

So let me see if I have this.

You ask for a team of street leveller that can beat your team but every time someone lists a street leveler who is too much you ban them??

Not really much point in my making a team. if I pick any of my 5 top ten favorite street levelers you's ban most

They are Iron Fist, Longshot, Argus, Justice, Manhunter (Mark Shaw), Deadshot, Daredevil, Stealth, Black Panther, and Green Arrow. I'm going to take a punt and say only Deadshot and GA would be allowed. If I included some non DC I'd only add one that would fit your idea of street level., that would be Jackaroo, maybe Lt Smith.

You're wrong, Daredevil would be allowed as well as Deadshot and Green Arrow

#100 Posted by beatboks1 (7340 posts) - - Show Bio

@HomasTardy said:

@beatboks1 said:

@HomasTardy:

So let me see if I have this.

You ask for a team of street leveller that can beat your team but every time someone lists a street leveler who is too much you ban them??

Not really much point in my making a team. if I pick any of my 5 top ten favorite street levelers you's ban most

They are Iron Fist, Longshot, Argus, Justice, Manhunter (Mark Shaw), Deadshot, Daredevil, Stealth, Black Panther, and Green Arrow. I'm going to take a punt and say only Deadshot and GA would be allowed. If I included some non DC I'd only add one that would fit your idea of street level., that would be Jackaroo, maybe Lt Smith.

You're wrong, Daredevil would be allowed as well as Deadshot and Green Arrow

and with that your whole stance doesn't make sense. DD has beaten IF in battles three times I can recall, gotten the better of BP twice, beaten Wolverine and several others you've banned. Batman has taken down guy's like Mammoth , Blockbuster and Baron Blitzkrieg and others seriously superior to everyone on my list.