#1 Posted by paulson3lt (570 posts) - - Show Bio

Beast is in his original first mutation.

Fight is in kingpins office (They start out 40 feet apart)

Both bloodlusted

Fight to the death

#2 Edited by God_Spawn (38345 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin. I think I've seen better all around feats in terms of strength, durability, and definitely skill over Beast. Especially at this age, but Beast still has him in agility, but I doubt that is going edge out the win.

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#3 Edited by dondave (38897 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin. I think I've seen better all around feats in terms of strength, durability, and definitely skill over Beast. Especially at this age, but Beast still has him in agility, but I doubt that is going edge out the win.

QFT

#4 Edited by sync1 (2990 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin wins this. He has strength advantage over him.

#5 Edited by russellmania77 (15839 posts) - - Show Bio

Should I feel dumb for thinking beast stomps??

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#6 Posted by sync1 (2990 posts) - - Show Bio

Should I feel dumb for thinking beast stomps??

Just a little bit. =P

#7 Edited by SirNeko (1156 posts) - - Show Bio

Original mutation loses, strongest mutation stomps.

#8 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin. I think I've seen better all around feats in terms of strength, durability, and definitely skill over Beast. Especially at this age, but Beast still has him in agility, but I doubt that is going edge out the win.

My first CaV on this site was with Beast, and I think he wins. His one tonner status was inaccurate IMO, and if he going up against current kingpin, then I'd wager for him. Then again, you seem to have a vehement hatred for Hank, but that only comes as a nice bonus to me....

#9 Posted by DanM (167 posts) - - Show Bio

Beast has him as far as strength and agility go, you would have to give Kingpin the edge as far as skill goes. If Beast wasn't blood lusted I might lean towards Kingpin but seeing as he is, chances are Fisk gets ripped limb from limb.

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#11 Posted by God_Spawn (38345 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@god_spawn said:

Kingpin. I think I've seen better all around feats in terms of strength, durability, and definitely skill over Beast. Especially at this age, but Beast still has him in agility, but I doubt that is going edge out the win.

My first CaV on this site was with Beast, and I think he wins. His one tonner status was inaccurate IMO, and if he going up against current kingpin, then I'd wager for him. Then again, you seem to have a vehement hatred for Hank, but that only comes as a nice bonus to me....

I've always felt Spider-Man's level was inaccurate and that he was a 100 tonner and I can always go back and bring that thread around. But seriously, my hatred for the character doesn't cloud my judgement in these things and if you think Beast wins, fine. Beast to me has never done well against skilled opponents and despite Beast's actual on paper stat advantage, I don't think he is so far above or beyond Kingpin in anything besides durability to the point he claims the victory.

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#12 Posted by Nefarious (22930 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is Classic Kingpin, Kingpin wins.

#13 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: I think as others have stated, well just nefarious actually, if it was classic kingpin, Id wager on him, as feat wise he was superhuman beyond what first mutation beast showed. But both ideas are acceptable.

And as for the Spiderman thread be my guest. Spiderman doesnt need to be a 100 tonner to make logan look silly, especially when yost is writing.

#14 Posted by FrozenPhoenix (1722 posts) - - Show Bio

@paulson3lt: At this point in his life he is severely undertrained in the ways of battle.