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#1 Edited by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a race of speed, power and team work, between 2 teams, the Runner makes a cosmic track with length equal earth's orbit (around the sun), the race will be : 3 x earth's orbit, with a team of 3 players. every player make one earth's orbit consecutively after his successor teammate touch him. in every 100 thousand Km there is refueling for all.

rules :

  • No time travel to the past
  • no teleportation
  • no telepathy
  • every team have two joker : use of two non harming power attacks to get advantage.
  • the joker must not harm the track.
  • the joker must not be used for more than 90% of the tour.
  • all players must use their offense powers only for speed, except for the team's joker.
  • every player of both teams can use as many powers as they want for defense
  • any defensive power must not hurt or use the track.

Team DC (Wally West, Barry Allen, Zoom)

Marvel team (Silver Surfer, Runner, Makkari)

Team DC vs Team Marvel, who should win, and more important how?

#2 Posted by Mattersuit (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

DC.

You do not - NOT - beat Zoom.

#3 Posted by Killemall (18323 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc rather handily.

#4 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

Given the conditions

this

@Killemall said:

Dc rather handily.

#5 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Marvel loses only because Runner has to be tagged out.

#6 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mattersuit:

Batman did

#7 Posted by Mattersuit (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: Two words:

Shut. Up.

#8 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio

Well that was Professor Zoom and not Zoom.
BB

#9 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective:

Well that was Professor Zoom and not Zoom.
BB

#10 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

don't underestimate marvel team, maybe SS can use an astral plane attack to immobilize Barry or Wally for example, you know that if one member of the team falls for picoseconds all the team may lose even if they have the fastest character.
that's why i made it in bolded letters : you should explain how this or that team gonna win.

#11 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mattersuit said:

DC.

You do not - NOT - beat Zoom.

#12 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio

@RoyHarperBLOW said:

@DarkKnightDetective:

Well that was Professor Zoom and not Zoom.
BB

Wait there is 2 of them? I am weak on my Flash.

#13 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@RoyHarperBLOW said:

@DarkKnightDetective:

Well that was Professor Zoom and not Zoom.
BB

Wait there is 2 of them? I am weak on my Flash.

Professor Zoom and Zoom.
BB

#14 Posted by tomlikesfries (4627 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Mattersuit:

Batman did

Yeah, but he's fu**ing Batman....

Anyway, I do agree that DC will be taking this, but it won't be easy. I mean, defeating Makkari, Surfer and Runner in a race isn't exactly a walk in the park.

#15 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a scenario of the race :

1st tour:

The Runner and Barry Allen will go first, untill the half of 1st tour, Barry is slightly ahead, The Runer realise he can't catch him, so he use an instantaneous cosmic attack to slow him, the attack works and Barry stumbles for nano seconds, that gives the Runner enough time to catch him and even be ahead.

the Runner finishs 1st tour first, and Silver Surfer takes the run, Barry arrives after Silver Surfer makes 1/3 of the 2nd tour. Wally takes the run.

2nd tour:

Wally is late, he push himself and with a big "O" on Surfer's face Wally makes Surfer eat dust, the Surfer stops being pacific, and use telekinesis to make Wally fly in air, the Surfer takes ahead, Wally vibrates his molecules and become intangible to escape telekinesis.Surfer arrives first, and Makkari goes

3rd tour :

Wally is still at 75% of 2nd tour when he freed himself from telekinesis, Makkari arrives to him, Wally pissed off, decides to steal speed from Makkari, which make Makkari very slow, Wally finishes the 2nd tour, and Zoom start to run when Makkari is at 99% of 3rd tour, Zoom in a blink of an eye (i don't know what eye can be that fast) finishes the race, when Makkari is 1 metre from finish line.

#16 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19965 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Mattersuit:

Batman did

  1. That's not Zoom. That is Professor Zoom.
  2. Professor Zoom was taunting Barry Allen, so he was caught off guard.
  3. Technically that isn't even the Batman you were referring to. That is Thomas Wayne Batman.
#17 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek:

1. At the time I did not know that there was a difference (sorry If I lack knowledge on Flash)

2. It doesn't matter, it is still a win.

3. It is the Batman I was referring to.

#18 Posted by terry2012 (4813 posts) - - Show Bio

Which silver surfer are we using here? Because the last time I check from another thread Silver Surfer doesn't have super speed, but only his board does....And when he does it he have to stay still. Plus when he enter his speed he only use hyper space to travel that fast. Without it he does move that fast.

DC for the win.

#19 Posted by comicace3 (3469 posts) - - Show Bio

DC wins easily you do not beat zoom in a race.

#20 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@terry2012 said:

Which silver surfer are we using here? Because the last time I check from another thread Silver Surfer doesn't have super speed, but only his board does....And when he does it he have to stay still. Plus when he enter his speed he only use hyper space to travel that fast. Without it he does move that fast.

DC for the win.

good point!! let's suppose the track gives all the speed properties that the players need, because not just Silver Surfer has to use hyperspace, but also all DC speedsters once they exceed light speed they need to go to the Speed Force field.

#21 Posted by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't you mean Professor Zoom? Zoom controls time isn't a speedster. I might have them mixed up though.

#22 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightflash said:

Don't you mean Professor Zoom? Zoom controls time isn't a speedster. I might have them mixed up though.

in the race it's Zoom, in my reply above i meant speedsters : Barry Allen & Wally West

#23 Posted by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder: THIS

#24 Posted by terry2012 (4813 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder: True.

#25 Posted by terry2012 (4813 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightflash: They both do the same. It just one is greater than the other.

#26 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom... i mean... DC takes this

#27 Edited by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

The only reason that the Flash team are gonna win is because:

They can goddamn time travel blah blah blah...

Speed Stealing Blah blah blah...

Making enemies turn their speed into slow motion blah blah blah and stuff that isn't fun in the thread.

Flagged because

SPITE!!!

#28 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

The only reason that the Flash team are gonna win is because:

They can goddamn time travel blah blah blah...

Speed Stealing Blah blah blah...

Making enemies turn their speed into slow motion blah blah blah and stuff that isn't fun in the thread.

Flagged because

SPITE!!!

the only spite i see here is your reply, if you read the rules, you'll see that time travel to past is not allowed, and there is 2 jokers that can give Silver Surfer and the Runner great advantage using there cosmic powers.

so to your reply :

SPITE!!!

#29 Posted by dondave (34674 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC ftw

#30 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder: oh, that's so kind of you,

I was just frustrated because I'm a SS fan,

I thought that you intentionally made a spite thread

#31 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Dc rather handily.

#32 Posted by Immortal777 (6980 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel FTW

Zoom wouldn't even bother to race at all he would lose it for his team trying to make them better heroes.

Online
#33 Edited by Cable_Extreme (8708 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mattersuit said:@comicace3:

DC.

You do not - NOT - beat Zoom.

The Runner can easily.

#34 Posted by Floopay (8641 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on the era.

Makkari and Runner in the right era could take this rather handily.

And I think Surfer trumps both of them in travel speed by quite a bit.

Now then, combat speed, that's a whole nother story. But travel speed, I go with team Marvel. I mean Surfer can enter Hyperspace and it's over, as he can go thousands upon thousands times the speed of light. Makkari at his best was permanently FTL, and the Runner at his best was so fast he might as well teleport.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#35 Edited by NeonGameWave (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel should win.

#36 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

marvel wins because of runner

#37 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

marvel wins because of runner

mmm, just how fast and poweful Runner is? because i don't think he can be faster than DC characters. do you have some feats?

#38 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

Depends on the era.

Makkari and Runner in the right era could take this rather handily.

And I think Surfer trumps both of them in travel speed by quite a bit.

Now then, combat speed, that's a whole nother story. But travel speed, I go with team Marvel. I mean Surfer can enter Hyperspace and it's over, as he can go thousands upon thousands times the speed of light. Makkari at his best was permanently FTL, and the Runner at his best was so fast he might as well teleport.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

this is basically a race not a battle, but have 2 jokers for assault, so that makes it a battle race.

the track has all the propreties of hyperspace and speed force field.

teleportation is not allowed, and i don't think Runner can be faster than Flash or Zoom, or can he?

#39 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@jackofspades said:

marvel wins because of runner

mmm, just how fast and poweful Runner is? because i don't think he can be faster than DC characters. do you have some feats?

he is faster than silver surfur

#40 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder: and how can you put him (runner) in a battle and dont know anything about him and say that dc is faster,sounds like you made the battle so dc could win but you mess up and put runner in this and didnt know really about him.but sorry it back fired on you because runner is a beast MARVEL WINS

#41 Posted by I_am_Warlock (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder: and how can you put him (runner) in a battle and dont know anything about him and say that dc is faster,sounds like you made the battle so dc could win but you mess up and put runner in this and didnt know really about him.but sorry it back fired on you because runner is a beast MARVEL WINS

That a very crap comparison, first you are using an instance where runner has space gem, the gem which is supposed to give you boundless speed. Second instance you are using runner blitz Surfer a being whose speed is as question able as it gets, and from there on you drag it out to say he is faster than Zoom who is so fast people with fempstosecond reaction time cant even see him.

That’s a huge leap filled with a lot of assumptions, not particularly good at that.

I was expecting you would have rather brought statements like Runner has traveled galaxies in seconds.

#42 Posted by Needlebay (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Flash.

#43 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder: and how can you put him (runner) in a battle and dont know anything about him and say that dc is faster,sounds like you made the battle so dc could win but you mess up and put runner in this and didnt know really about him.but sorry it back fired on you because runner is a beast MARVEL WINS

your post is so lame, inappropriate and rude, and i bet i know better than you about the Runner, but you know nothing about Zoom and Flash.

rude because you're not respectable to talk properly.

inappropriate because your misjudging me and making bias of pure ignorance about my reasons. if i wanted DC to win i wouldn't bother make the rules in Marvel's favore, go read them again.

and lame because you provided nothing, a feat with the space gem is not counted, and a feat where he fights SS that proves nothing at all. you literally provided garbage, no logic, no meaningful feats, no statements, just garbage.

#44 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder: and how can you put him (runner) in a battle and dont know anything about him and say that dc is faster,sounds like you made the battle so dc could win but you mess up and put runner in this and didnt know really about him.but sorry it back fired on you because runner is a beast MARVEL WINS

your post is so lame, inappropriate and rude, and i bet i know better than you about the Runner, but you know nothing about Zoom and Flash.

rude because you're not respectable to talk properly.

inappropriate because your misjudging me and making bias of pure ignorance about my reasons. if i wanted DC to win i wouldn't bother make the rules in Marvel's favore, go read them again.

and lame because you provided nothing, a feat with the space gem is not counted, and a feat where he fights SS that proves nothing at all. you literally provided garbage, no logic, no meaningful feats, no statements, just garbage.

#45 Posted by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash and Zoom were fighting all over the eorld dozens of times in less than a second. and since they were fighting they were not moving at full speeds.

#46 Posted by brick909 (130 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly think that the fact that SS can effect the other runners gives the Marvel team a huge advantage in this race. I also think that zoom is being over estimated.There is also the issue that Makari is not that fast. Over all I think its a close race but with SS marvel might be able to squeeze out a win. Just my opinion though.

#47 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder: and how can you put him (runner) in a battle and dont know anything about him and say that dc is faster,sounds like you made the battle so dc could win but you mess up and put runner in this and didnt know really about him.but sorry it back fired on you because runner is a beast MARVEL WINS

your post is so lame, inappropriate and rude, and i bet i know better than you about the Runner, but you know nothing about Zoom and Flash.

rude because you're not respectable to talk properly.

inappropriate because your misjudging me and making bias of pure ignorance about my reasons. if i wanted DC to win i wouldn't bother make the rules in Marvel's favore, go read them again.

and lame because you provided nothing, a feat with the space gem is not counted, and a feat where he fights SS that proves nothing at all. you literally provided garbage, no logic, no meaningful feats, no statements, just garbage.

exactly what i thought you will do, it just suit you since you can't even make a good correct sentence to debate. get lost!!

#48 Posted by Floopay (8641 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@Floopay said:

Depends on the era.

Makkari and Runner in the right era could take this rather handily.

And I think Surfer trumps both of them in travel speed by quite a bit.

Now then, combat speed, that's a whole nother story. But travel speed, I go with team Marvel. I mean Surfer can enter Hyperspace and it's over, as he can go thousands upon thousands times the speed of light. Makkari at his best was permanently FTL, and the Runner at his best was so fast he might as well teleport.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

this is basically a race not a battle, but have 2 jokers for assault, so that makes it a battle race.

the track has all the propreties of hyperspace and speed force field.

teleportation is not allowed, and i don't think Runner can be faster than Flash or Zoom, or can he?

Both Runner and Makkari are faster than Zoom and Flash. Makkari was able to accelerate himself so such a speed that he was thought to permanently be stuck in an FTL state. Silver Surfer in hyperspace can go several thousand times the speed of light. They don't need the jokers, they'll be done before Zoom or Flash can finish.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#49 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@jackofspades said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder: and how can you put him (runner) in a battle and dont know anything about him and say that dc is faster,sounds like you made the battle so dc could win but you mess up and put runner in this and didnt know really about him.but sorry it back fired on you because runner is a beast MARVEL WINS

your post is so lame, inappropriate and rude, and i bet i know better than you about the Runner, but you know nothing about Zoom and Flash.

rude because you're not respectable to talk properly.

inappropriate because your misjudging me and making bias of pure ignorance about my reasons. if i wanted DC to win i wouldn't bother make the rules in Marvel's favore, go read them again.

and lame because you provided nothing, a feat with the space gem is not counted, and a feat where he fights SS that proves nothing at all. you literally provided garbage, no logic, no meaningful feats, no statements, just garbage.

exactly what i thought you will do, it just suit you since you can't even make a good correct sentence to debate. get lost!!

runner stomps like my friend floopay said,now you can get lost

#50 Posted by the_mighty_Beyonder (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: what's an FTL? and how can Runner or Makkari be faster than Zoom? Zoom is beyond speed itself, he's outside of time.