Battle of the Week: Wonder Woman vs. Guardians of the Galaxy

Just my opinion, this needs to be edited to Guardians get 1 hour of prep, cause they ain't winning without it

2. He doesn't really show any but that doesn't change the fact that he was the one who trained Gamora how to fight.

3. It's still the same Gamora so she does retain the same martial arts skills. Even in the motion comic preluding Bendis's GotG run, she takes on a group of alien mercenaries with ease. Her fighting ability has never been retconned. Unless she has suffered from bad writing or has been depowered, her past abilities should not be ignored.

4. By your logic, Superman Prime is inferior to pre-Flashpoint Superman because he has little feats. And I don't know what you read but Earth 2 had the clone easily beating Green Lantern and even Dr. Fate. No one stood a chance until he crumbled.

5. The thing is that the current Gamora hasn't been depowered at all unlike Drax.

@spiderman1997: I don't know if you're talking about first encounter or second.

first encounter: She star hitting him with a bow/ax/sword/whip or whatever that weapon was. Later she is seen using her fists, then Thor get some space and send her hammer flying to her but she doge it. and keep hitting him, until he fall, then she took him and put his thing on Thor's neck to kill him but other angel tell her to not kill him for other of Loki.

Second fight: Thor is attacking the queen and Aldrift/Angela attacking with a kick on the face, and star hitting him with her weapon again and cutting him. And tell him to fight to death in single combat. Then they star fighting a thunder hit her with a lightning doing just a little of damage and when Thor was going to attack with the thunder in his hammer he says, ""Wait. That was not my Thunder"" and then Odin interrupt the fight with Thunder around his sword.

In both battle Angela was having the advantage on hand to hand and weapon combat, when Thor begin using the lightning is when he start having advantage.

Well Diana being outnumbered means she's far more likely to use her speed than if this were a one on one battle. Rocket Raccoon and Star-Lord are non-factors. Anything they send her way will be deflected either at them or their comrades. Gamora has skill, Drax has strength and durability and Groot has the vesratility to pose a threat if they didn't lack physical traits that would be necessary to put her down as Gamora lack physicals and Drax and Groot lack speed/skill. Add into the fact that Wonder Woman is also the God of War and has control over warriors, ninja, samurais, soldiers, etc. Last I checked Star-Lord, Rocket Raccoon and Gamora all fall under this category turning the tide to 4 vs 2. Leaving Drax and Groot to either surrender or risk injury to their teammates either way they can't win. For this to work in their favor I'd think they'd need prep to try to catch Wonder Woman while she was sleeping.

@divell: Second fight. You admitted Thor using lightning yourself. Thunder doesn't hit people it is the sound which is the aftermath of a lightning strike. Odin's thunder rumbles after Thor already downs Angela and is about to finish her.

Gotta give it to WW here. She neutralizes Star-Lord and Rocket first (the easiest to take out and the least threat to her). Her sword takes care of Groot. Her strength is greater than Drax, not to mention she's a much better and swifter fighter. The only one I see presenting a problem for her is Gamora if she stays close and melees. However, WW's strength is much greater than Gamora's, and as has been said before, really all Wondie needs to do is throw down the gauntlets and go into beast mode and GotG are done for.

@spiderman1997: Thor was charging the lightning in the Mjolnirg when the lightning hit Angela. I never say he wasn't using it. I was talking about the first encounter in the one he didn't use it. In the second he use it but with low eff on Angela.

Well put :) well said :)

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2. This point is moot anyways. Even if I say it's true, it's not like it proves anything useful for this battle.

3. Featless alien mercs... I know the comic. The one where she jumps into the vat of molten stuffs? Fun comic. Not sure how it's a skill feat beyond street level though... Skill's not the problem anyways. Physicals are.

4. Superboy-Prime with the Guardian Amp has few feats, but consistently high feats. Earth 2 Superman has very few pathetic feats. Earth 2 Wonder Woman has basically ONE feat and it's pathetic. They are nowhere near equivalent to their Prime Earth counterparts.

5. Prove it. Show me in the Bendis run, or in any comic with an unamped Gamora, where it shows her physicals even come close to coming CLOSE New 52 Wonder Woman's.

Yeah I had a hard time getting involved in that story I remember that. He'l also didn't really "grab" me as a newer character you know he's ok lol.

Guardian of the galaxy

Wow. Seriously?

Wonder Woman DESTROYS these guys, without breaking a nail. Why?

- Strength: Wonder Woman is nearly as strong as Superman. When she removes her bracers, she IS as strong as Superman. Drax is arguably the strongest member of the Guardians, and he is COMPLETELY outclassed by Wonder Woman's strength. Yes, he IS. Depending on how he's being written, some might say that Groot is actually stronger than Drax. Doesn't matter. Neither of them are in Wonder Woman's strength class. Both of them together aren't as strong as Wonder Woman is. Some people seem to have a real problem with a WOMAN being at the pinnacle of physical power. Well, sorry; you're going to have to learn to deal with it. Wonder Woman is an Alpha-class metahuman. She can hang with the strongest heroes in any universe. The Guardians have NOTHING that can compensate for that level of physical power. Sorry.

- Speed: Wonder Woman ranks among the fastest characters in the DC Universe. She's nearly as fast as Superman, who is nearly as fast as The Flash (when he's not drawing heavily on the Speed Force). Her reaction time is actually quicker than Superman's, because she doesn't hesitate to strike the way Superman sometimes does, which is what can give her the edge in combat against him. Regardless, Diana is FAR faster than any member of the Guardians - fast enough that, if she wants, they will look like statues standing still to her. NONE of them could even lay a hand on her, and you can't hurt what you can't hit. She could conceivably beat them all senseless before the first one even hit the ground. So, again, the Guardians are hopelessly outclassed. Sorry.

Durability: Wonder Woman survived the direct detonation of a nuclear explosion, and, except for being a bit battered, she was fine. She has gone toe-to-toe with the most powerful heroes and villains in the DC Universe, taken their best, and come back for more. She's not truly invulnerable the way Superman is, but her healing ability and goddess nature more than compensate for that. The Guardians have nothing that they could throw at her that would really even faze her, let alone take her down. If she wanted, she could spar with Drax and Groot (after punting Gamorra into the next county), and she'd walk away with barely a scratch, while they'd be unconscious. And God forbid she takes off her gauntlets...! Again, The Guardians are outclassed.

Weapons: Her bracers can deflect ANYTHING the Guardians could throw at her. Her lasso cannot be broken, and could restrain or command any of them she caught in its coils. Her sword - sharp enough to CLEAVE AN ATOM - could slice through any of them like they weren't even there. Her shield? See her bracers.

Goddess of War: Already a brilliant tactician, Wonder Woman added Aries' tactical abilities and outright viciousness to her already tremendously formidable skill. She is the daughter of Zeus, and when she removes her bracers, her power levels skyrocket, and she gains other, as-yet undefined abilities. As a goddess, she is immortal and extremely difficult to kill or permanently injure. The Guardians will be fighting a GODDESS, who is herself the daughter of the King of the gods. Starlord is a guy with some guns. Rocket Raccoon is a raccoon with some guns. Gamorra is an enhanced humanoid, but not enhanced nearly enough. Groot is superpowered, but not in Wonder Woman's class, and made of wood, which, come on, Wonder Woman could either break or cleave through with no effort (look what she did to Swamp Thing, who is more powerful than Groot). And Drax, though also superpowered, lacks the strength, speed, durability, or skill to take on Wonder Woman. The ONLY reason this fight goes on longer than, oh, 5 seconds is that Wonder Woman decides not to obliterate these guys straight off the bat. But, if they catch her on a bad day...

Wonder Woman, 10 times out of 10.

I mean, REALLY?

The Guardians win this by BFR. As much as people talk about how happy WW is with killing in the New 52, people also forget that she still fights with equalized speed unless lives are on the line.

As it is, she is fighting in an area without civilians. This will mean that she can unload if she has to, but will have no essential need for it as her opponents are with one exception jokes in comparison to her fighting skills.

With speed and strength being equalized due to morals and character traits, the team would be best served with Gamora vs Wonder Woman in a one on one matchup while the rest of the team plans. This would also be in character for the team to allow, considering the archaic equipment and experience that the team would have already had with Amazons and Asgardian Valkyries. That fight would go to Wonder Woman, but not before Rocket whipped up something to get WW off planet...or blown up.

Blasting her would fail horribly, and end with the team being blitzed.

Using 99.9% of Groot to grab and launch WW out of the arena would keep her out of the fight for some time. If the team has access to their TP tech, Rocket and Starlord could very well send out of the solar system if they can get her tied down long enough.

If this were a fight to KO, death, or Incapacitation; Wonder Woman would win9/10. But, if the Guardians can win by flinging her off world, they would win this 7-8/10.

Too much to deal with. Shed deal with most individually without trouble but.....drax groot idk but they are at some serious combat speed disadvantages and wonderwoman is pretty damn good all around. I think im going to vote too close to call because thats an option. But i would give majority to wonderwoman here.

Wonder Woman went against Superdoom and held of his attacks. You keep using Thing as a benchmark for strength when he isn't even a 100 tonner. You could make a New 52 WW vs Thing thread if you want. If there isn't one already.

Pretty sure she's too fast for anyone on that team to tag.

So you posted a baseless scan of her blocking projectiles with her gauntlets............and a scan of her rushing a weakened and tired Supergirl..........not impressive.

@pokeysteve: Thing is actually quite a bit above 100 tons..not sure where you got the idea that he isn't.

They are both examples of WW blocking things and moving faster than Gamora is capable of. I don't need to impress you. Just show you that Gamora has no chance against a serious Wonder Woman.

Admittedly just from feats I've seen in his battles on here. I don't actually read any FF. It wouldn't matter in a fight with her but I'd like to see some examples if you have any handy.

@pokeysteve: "They are both examples of WW blocking things and moving faster than Gamora is capable of." Nope. those scans are worthless and don't prove anything other than you can post out of context scans. Also you think Gamora can't block LOL, read some Guardians and FF by the looks of it.Try again.

@micah: Sorry to say but Wonder Woman is simply too fast for Gamora. The only way Gamora would win is if WW was stupid enough to brawl with her. WW outright humiliated Zod and Faora with her skills alone. Create a Gamora vs Zod and Faora thread and watch how fast it get locked for spite.

They aren't out of context. That's how fast Wonder Woman is. If you have any of Gamora doing something faster, I am ready and able to see them.

I've always felt that The Thing, She-Hulk, Wonder Man and Namor were all around the same strength range and fit the ideal image of what it is to be a mid level high tier character. They're powerful within their own right, but I wouldn't particularly call on them in a fight.

And that's exactly what she will do. Then she gets shut down by a nerve cluster shot from Gamora. Also Zod and Faora don't have many notable combat feats in the comics at this point and time so that's not really impressive either.

I am ready and able for you to not post out of context scans. You post a scan of WW blocking arrows but who fired them??? Does the person have any noticeable accuracy or speed feats??? Then posted a scan of her rushing a weakened and tired Supergirl. Show me WW doing that to Supergirl right out of the gate then we can talk. Till then I'll wait for you to get better evidence.

This is a pretty poor match up if you ask me. People are vastly overreaching the GotG (probably cos movie). Any one of them against WW is spite, adding them together changes nothing. 5 ants vs 1 human still ends in a stomp.

@micah: No she won't because she has other opponents to worry about in this fight. Wonder Woman only brawls in sparring matches not against multiple enemies in battle. If we're using Tomasi's Wonder Woman then she won't show no mercy on Gamora and try to kill her since that version of Wonder Woman is bloodthirsty. Zod broke Superman's arm and Faora manhandled him before.

And Gamora will try to kill Wonder Woman or at least brutalize her to put her down. All Gamora needs is one good connect with a nerve cluster and WW is done. If that's all they have it's still not enough to say Wonder Woman beating them is a feat to justify beating Gamora in combat. Gamora is more skilled than both of them based on feats.

@micah: Skills can only get you so far. Do you think Gamora can beat Flash or Green Lantern just because she is more skilled?

No. But Flash and GL are irrelevant in this fight. Against WW she has a great shot at beating her. Wonder Woman might hold the physicals edge but when has that ever stopped Gamora before??? She KO'ed Ronan, Rage, and even surprised Thanos with a death blow (actually fought him in a good fight later) all of whom outrank her by several leagues in the physicals department.

It wasn't arrows. It was several dozen edged weapons which she blocks all at once. I don't post scans till you see something you like. It doesn't work that way. I played a card and you haven't countered it with a feat from Gamora showing she can match or beat it. The burden of proof is on your end now, bud.

@micah: Does Gamora have defense against telepathy? I just realize Gamora is a assassin and as the God of War, Wonder Woman can mind control any combatant.

My mistake "projectiles" You played a useless card buddy, that's irrelevant and proves nothing. And you never answered my question. Answer that then we can keep going, that's typically how these things go my friend. Balls in your court.

To my knowledge she doesn't have any TP resistance. Can you post a scan of Wonder Woman using TP?

@lowlaville: All good points. However, An in character WW does not go for the speedblitz right away, or else this would be a mismatch. She would use her strengh or sword or lasso to fight. She WOULD use speed once Rocket blasts her back a mile..wait you say she cannot be blastsd back a mile by the five barreled cannon? This cannon can one-shot huge ships. Also, when have the OE destroyed a planet? Anyway, if she kills Star Lord, Groot could protect the rest of the team and she would have to slash througgh the roots. Then he wraps aroud her, and Rocket uses his thanod busting phasic cannon to blow off her head. If she opens up with her sword, Groot or Rocket disarm her and then Groot entagles her using his roots. Also, view the mini-groot strategy and my other strategies I posted a while back.

Shows how much you actually know about Diana. As god of war, she has TP over soldiers, warriors, politicians etc (anyone with a say in the business of War. In futures end timeline, she got nuke launch codes (from the president (off panel), in the canon timeline, she saved Lois from a couple of soldiers through TP.). She's resisted Brainiac's TP unguarded. She's resisted Lois Lane's TP (who at the time was under Brainiac's influence), and actually fought back with her mind.

@lowlaville: "Shows how much you actually know about Diana." Really not sure what your trying to say. I know Wonder Woman has TP as the God of War, I just asked for a scan of it so we could continue to debate and to see it in action.

As a god of war remember she can do this already!

@vinomonster: Impressive. I think Drax has TP resistance, If I recall Moondragon tried to enter and connect with his mind once and it didn't work out so well for her.

@micah: Diana's TP

http://imgur.com/a/hpvbg - a couple of images here. The one I'm missing is where she openly resists assimilation without any protection.

Omega Beam?

@lowlaville: Ehhh nothing Moondragon couldn't replicate.

Guardians would absolutely stomp with prep. Star-Lord has beaten Thanos three times with prep. They have access to just wayyyy too much power for Wonder Woman if they use prep. Drax killed Thanos with barely any prep at all, and I'm not talking about the Annihilation Event when Drax punched Thanos with his Thanos killing power, I'm talking about the Thanos Imperative where Drax no longer had that power.

This turns Thanos into this...

This is the power of the weapons that the Guardians just have laying around. It's not like Drax had to do anything special to get his hands on this kind of power, they just simply already have it.

Not too mention this weapon, which while never used, was apparently capable of killing Thanos, and it too was just at an arm's reach, and required basically no prep time.

Or you know, Rocket could just turn a Celestial head into a gigantic weapon.

Then take into account Star-Lord's unreal ability to get his hands on artifacts that turn him from a human(ish) character to almost god-like with a reasonable amount of prep.

While he probably can't get a Cosmic Cube within an hour, he definitely can get his hands on the Mandalay Gem in about 5 minutes since he knows exactly where it's at.

Couple that with Star-Lord's ever increasing feats of simply being 5 steps ahead of his opponents, and Rocket's ability to find every positive outcome to any situation, and you have a serious stomp for the Guardians.

Anyways, prep would just be unfair to Diana. Seriously, Batman wishes he could prep as well as the Guardians do.

@tparks: Yep Guardians with prep murder stomp.

Well it depends because this version beat Ronan the Accuser.

So it really depends on whos stronger Ronan the Accuser or this version of Wonder Woman.

Drax is already a tough SOB to take on. Groot is difficult to actually kill. Starlord and Rocket have Op'd weapons and Gamora has god-killing blades. So Diana being the current "God of War" doesn't really afford her any real protection here.

And I've never seen Gamora get tp'd. Not even by the Thanosi clone X. Which may be due to her training by Thanos or from her reincarnated body after Warlock resurrected and evolved them. The only time I've seen Gamora controlled by any degree was when Galactus used her like a cosmic scalpel to bring Eternity out of a coma induced by the Magus using cosmic cubes.

The only characters who have fought Ronan were Star-Lord and Gamora. Star-Lord surprisingly got a few nice melee shots in before Ronan decisively ended the battle. Gamora had an epic fight with Ronan, which ends as a stalemate. Rocket Raccoon in a drunken bar story said he squared off with Ronan and took him out. Lol.

Anyways, Wonder Woman is physically stronger then Ronan by quite a bit, but Ronan is a bigger threat with his Universal Weapon.

2. Thanos training Gamora. She destroys a robot and this was a time before she was augmented to superhuman levels. Thanos may not show a whole lot of impressive martial arts skills but that doesn't change the fact that he has an impressive win record. Let's not forget that Thanos is smarter than Dr. Doom so impressing that guy is an accomplishment

3. Featless mercenaries? Are you seriously gonna lowball that? It doesn't change the fact that they are bipedal beings armed with alien weaponry.

4. Nothing proves that the Earth 2 counterparts are weaker than the Prime Earth versions except for Power Girl and Supergirl. Hell, even in the pre-Flashpoint continuity, the older Kara is arguably weaker than her younger counterpart.

5. By herself, Gamora isn't going to win but with the Guardians backing her up, she does have a chance.

....OMG Tparks! What if....what if in RR's solo, he actually takes on Ronan? :O

@wolfrazer: I would love it, and I hope it happens. I could only imagine the back and forth between those two would be hilarious, with Ronan being mad about Rocket bragging about taking him out in bars all over the galaxy, and the fight it self would be epic.