Battle of the Week: Wolverine vs Deathstroke

I think a random encounter battle suits Wolverine a lot better than vice a versa. With his adamantium and much superior healing factor, I think Slade is going to be stabbed to hell before he realizes he isn't dealing with a light weight.

@the_caped_crusader, I See what you mean

@chimeroid: I was but there is some including myself who see the merit in people forcing to pick. But I might add it again to the next match if enough people like that option.

Yup.

@supremegeneration: While Logan has Much, Much, Much better Combat Skill that Deathstroke, He Hardly uses it, he fights more like a sponge, tanking attacks thanks to his Skeleton and Healing Factor

And Wow, Nearly 50 people have voted and it still is Dead even

@bullet_to_the_head: If forced to, he probably will use it after seeing Deathstroke's talents.

Ok so here is my look on things.

WOLVERINE WINS!

His natural strength is augmented by the demand placed on his musculature due to the presence of over 50 kg/100 pounds of Adamantium bonded to his skeleton, which also removes the natural limitations of the human skeletal structure by allowing him to lift weights that would damage a human skeleton. Wolverine has been depicted with sufficient strength to break steel chains, support the weight of a dozen men with one arm and lift the 450 kg/955 lb Ursa Major over his head before tossing him across a room. Wolverine's strength is enough to allow him to press just about 2 tons.

Wolverine possess superhuman durability. This is mostly because of his healing abilities and Adamantium Skeleton, which redistributes the force of blows dealt against. He has taken blows from Spider-Man on multiple occasions showing less than minimal discomfort, as well from a host of other much stronger characters such as Wonder-Man, Thor, Hulk, Thing, Skaar, Sebastian Shaw, and Kid Gladiator, who also had the advantage of have spiked knuckles. However, even without his Adamantium Skeleton, Wolverine does display a degree of superhuman durability. For example, he was hit by a jeep, and was unharmed. This is partially due to the fact that his skeleton, even without the Adamantium metal, is superhumanly durable.

Wolverine is able to move at low level superhuman speeds. He has attacked faster than the eye could follow and even Spider-Man briefly thought Wolverine was faster than he was in their first fight. His combat speed seems more enhanced than anything else, as he has frequently kept up with Spider-Man in combat, and blitzed people before they pull their trigger fingers.” And: “Wolverine's agility, balance and bodily coordination are enhanced to levels far beyond the natural physical limits and capabilities of the finest human specimen. Wolverine's agility is sufficient to allow him to dodge multiple bullets. Other times, able to jump extremely high and evade several yards.

Due to his extensive training as a soldier, a CIA operative, a samurai and a member of the X-Men, Logan is an exceptional martial artist, with expertise in Japanese martial arts, and has mastered 15 forms of martial arts. His extraordinary hand-to-hand combat ability makes him one of the finest combatants on Earth. He was able to keep up with both the Black Panther and the Iron Fist, both expert martial artists. He has also defeated various hand-to-hand experts without using his claws. He even has taught the Black Widow, Rogue, Storm, and Shadowcat in hand-to-hand combat.

Gallery

Though seemingly brutish, Wolverine is highly intelligent. When Forge monitored Wolverine's vitals during a Danger Room training session, he reported Logan's physical and mental state as "equivalent to an Olympic-level gymnast performing a Gold-medal-winning routine whilst simultaneously beating four chess computers in his head", which gives something of an idea of the level of sophistication and tactical processing Logan is capable of utilizing while in combat. He remembers Ogun teaching him Sun Tzu's The Art of War.

Wolverine possesses superhumanly acute senses that are comparable to those of certain animals. He can see at far greater distances, with perfect clarity, than an ordinary human. He retains this same level of clarity even in near total darkness. His hearing is enhanced in a similar manner, allowing him to detect sounds ordinary humans couldn't hear at a greater distances, enough to hear a teardrop in another room that have thick walls with enough focus. He is able to recognize people and objects by scent, even if they are well hidden. He can track a target by scent, even if the scent has been greatly eroded by time and weather factors, with an extraordinary degree of success. Wolverine can also use his keen sense of smell to detect lies due to chemical changes within a person's scent. These senses stem from, at least partially, his constant cellular regeneration, as are his enhanced physical capabilities.

So, what gives Logan the win? his HEALING FACTOR!

Wolverine's primary mutant power is an accelerated healing process that enables him to regenerate damaged or destroyed tissue with far greater efficiency than an ordinary human. He can regenerate greatly damaged or destroyed tissue with few seconds. Wolverine's accelerated healing powers have been commonly referred to as his mutant healing factor. The full extent and speed of Wolverine's healing factor isn't known. He has been shown to fully heal from numerous gunshot wounds, severe burns covering most of his body, and regenerate missing eyes within a matter of seconds. Among the more extreme depictions of his accelerated healing factor involves him having his skin, muscles, and internal organs incinerated from his skeleton only to fully regenerate the tissue within minutes. Adamantium plays a crucial role in the speed of Wolverine's healing as well because of the fact that it produces a poison that his immune system fights off regularly. It is said that without the Adamantium, his healing rate increases. This power even amends psychological wounds inflicted as a result of traumatic experiences. However, Wolverine's healing powers force his mind to suppress the memories, sometimes resulting in amnesia. Wolverine sometimes calls this his mental scar tissue. Wolverine's healing factor has cured him from the mystical curse of the Werewolf after he had been bitten and turned into a werewolf and from vampirism, though it should be noted that the time it took to cure the Werewolf curse was longer than the time it took to cure him from vampirism.

Gallery

-yify

@yify: Well thanks for making my post look like nothing :(

Nah jk, great post.

edit

I'm backing Slade.

@sirfizzwhizz: maybe a hank pym/ant man match up for next week in honor of the movies release.

Slade is smart as hell and I'm sure he can think of something to beat a man with a metal skeleton. He is easily able to keep up with Logan in terms of physical stats and skill, so as long as he can avoid getting hit with the claws too much he can last long enough to come up with a plan. It won't take a guy like Slade that long to think anyway.

@nimamindtricks: ooh, good thought.

Exactly 50/50 right now. I say Logan.

Deathstroke edges out the victory, for me.

@supremegeneration said:

I agree with @higorm, this is not going to be an easy battle. I'm going to stick with Logan. He has better durability (ok maybe healing factor not durability) and fighting skills. I almost chocked on fighting skills too. I didn't believe it till I did my good research.

Gallery

The first is Feral Wolverine besting Shang-Chi. I know this isn't Feral Wolvie but the second shows regular Wolvie beating Shang-Chi. The third is Shang-Chi acknowledging Wolvie.

Wolverine only beat shang chi in the first scan you posted with bone claw wolverine. Logan lost the fight in origins, all though this was a rusty, and out of practice wolverine. Shang chi does acknowledge wolverine when Logan learns to control his rage.

Any reason guys?

I know its already been covered but the scan your referring to is from Deathstroke the Terminator Annual #3 - Journey's End which is non canon to both new 52 and post crisis continuity. Its a story about an else world where Slade lives hundreds of years into the future and the story mentions Slade was getting stronger over time IIRC.

@yify: I believe the scan you posted of wolverine breaking spider-mans webbing is either from a what if? enemy of the state, or marvel adventures. I addressed the fight with shang chi from origins above, here is the full thing:

Gallery

Granted this was a less experienced wolverine and shang chi (this was before there fight with bone claw wolverine), and Logan was going through one of his refresher courses at the time (from shang chi), so this isn't logan at his best. Also after rereading the issue I think it can be interpreted that when Shang chi calls wolverine the master that he means that Logan has mastered his animal side and gained control, since the whole story was about wolverine trying to control his animal side because Creed kept making him fight like a berserker. After the above fight with shang chi, Logan fights Creed in a clam mind set and this happens:

Gallery

After Logan defeats sabretooth he returns to shang chi, who asks him the riddle again, and wolverine answers it. So I am thinking that when shang chi said wolverine was the master he meant he was the master of his animal side:

Gallery

For the record I am not objecting to Logan being a better martial artist than shang chi, or the fact that there is context to the time when shang chi beat wolverine. I am just saying that Logan never defeated shang chi in origins, and shang chi saying wolverine is "the master" probably doesn't mean martial artist.

EDIT: For the record Logan beats deathstroke.

Without Adamantium bullets, Slade gets his head sliced off after a brutal fight.

I say Wolverine would win after a tough fight due to a combination of his fighting skills, healing factor, and adamantium claws.

I forgot to ask you as well why Slade wins.

Logan doesn't have a normal metal skeleton, and he is bringing a lot more to the fight than just the adamantium. Why is Slade going to avoid being hit with the claws, when Logan is a better martial artist, and has speed equal to Slade by feats? What counter does Slade have for the adamantium claws in melee combat? Its easy to say Slade thinks of a way to beat wolverine, but its another thing to explain what kind of tactic Slade plans to actually use to win this fight.

Adamantium can't cut through adamantium. Logan has failed to cut cyber, and IIRC and adamantium buzz saw couldn't cut Logans skeleton. Adamantium bullets shouldn't work here even if Slade did have them.

I mean if the Punisher can handle Logan, I don't see why Slade can't. :p

@jashro44: I don't think Wolverine is quite as fast as Slade. What feats of his are equal? Slade is less skilled but he beats people more skilled than him all the time due to his physical enhancements. I'm not Slade, but I imagine he could think of a way the longer has fights wolverine. I don't know how durable Nth metal or Promethium is but even if it can't stop Adamantium, Slade will know how dangerous the claws are once he tries to block the claws with his sword and it gets cut in half. He will also notice Wolverines healing factor and adamantium skeleton. All you have to do is run an electric current through something metal to make it a magnet. Surely Slade will think of that. Trying to drown Logan will likely be an idea as well. Slade has the weaponry to put wolverine down for a short time, giving him more time to think. Basically, I don't think Slade will let himself get tagged once he sees how dangerous the claws are, and the longer he fights wolverine the more info he gets on how to defeat him. This is the guy who came up with simple ways to defeat a version of the justice league. I think he can find a way to beat Logan.

@jayc1324: Who has Slade beaten that's more skilled than him in addition to possessing equal if not greater physical stats?

@juiceboks: I'm not sure that Wolverine stats are equal to Slade's in the first place though.

But to answer your question, not anyone I can think of.

Slade is way smarter ,faster and more skilled but Wolverine is stronger has better healing factor and adamantium skeleton

Stalemate

I would say slade new52 slade was a ten tonner with the NTH Metal Armor if he had his promethium sword too it would've been overkill. Also he was fast enough to catch someone running at him at over 200 mph.

This is basically a composite slade which just makes it easier wolverines awesome though. It would be a ridiculously cool fight.

Awesome, a fight between two people who are the best at what they do, and what they do isn't pretty. The problem is that while Deathstroke overall shows better fighting skill, and manage to go toe to toe with various strong people, Wolverine regen and damage soak just like everybody said will be the main reason why wolverine will win. I mean god damn his regen is just freaking insane, and I can't see how deathstroke is going to take this, while Wolverine has option. Actually not really options, more like cut his head off gg,

They're equal if not much greater in every area except strength(which is hardly relevant given their fighting styles).

Wolvie is better.

Dang. 50/50 page one, now onto the end of page two and still 50/50. Does not get much better than this :)

Do you have proof for either of these claims?

-yify

@sirfizzwhizz: Shame on You, You forgot to add too close to call

@sirfizzwhizz: maybe do the Terminator vs Robocop in highlight of Terminator Geniysis

logan eventually

Wolverine wins.

First with the pre.

Slade my view is the best fighter Wolverine, and made to prove it (for example, won the Superpowers in Batman # 28, in fact, he beat him) is more strategist (manipulating various people for stories that appears, as his own daughter) and without doubt more intelligent (in Identity Crisis, Bowman says himself that while it uses 90% of the brain others use 10%).

But despite all this, in the category struggle Logan does not get back, they are close. I believe that with base made I know, Logan is stronger, tougher, have more accurate way and also the healing factor and adamantium to his favor.

Slade could try to knock him out with the famous "pressure points", but in the story "I, Wolverine" is said that this technique does not affect the Logan. The distance, bullets did not affect him and I doubt he falls for a bomb made with all his strength (this is the bomb hit him). If Slade leave pro body combat body, even using their swords chances of Logan are higher thanks to the adamantium in his body and his claws. Swords have already broken the back of Logan and others have said that his punch approaches the force of a blow with steel.

The scans are in Portuguese, sorry for that.

If you want to give are all Wolverine V1 except the pressure points (where he's taking blows to the neck with a wooden sword).

We can see the Logan resisting freefall.

Struggling with about a hundred pirates and raising several with one arm.

And the scan where it says the force of his punch.

Swords breaking.

And one of his healing factor, where he faces Cyclops in "X-Men: The Schism"

Gallery

I'm leaning towards Logan, but waiting for more debating before I vote. We had a couple of people do a good job of showing off Wolverine, what about Slade? I need someone to explain how the Nth Metal armor affects the match. That's the deciding factor for me currently

That will be a option for the following weeks vote for match.

@chaos911:

The Nth metal increases his natural abilities. Strength, endurance, speed, agility etc. Hawkman explains here.

Gallery

I forgot to say in my review but practically the same thing, I do not see Slade New 52 knocking out Logan and the adamantium is superior to the nth.

@jashro44: I think Deathstroke has what it takes to beat Wolverine. He may not be as technically skilled as Wolverine but he takes down people who are more skilled than him all the time like Batman due to his physicals. Batman may not have a healing factor but he's more than comparable to Wolverines in skill. Slade's reaction time allows him to actually dodge bullets and tag the flash twice (PIS but still). He is also stronger than Wolverines I believe and he has the durability and stamina to keep up with him in a fight. His gear here will also help him edge out a win, his prometheum sword (can adimantium cut through that?) along with his blast staff give him the reach advantage, and he can always use the staff to force Logan back to formulate a strategy. Not to mention his Nth Metal suit which allowed him to withstand tons of damage and amplifies his physical stats. I know Wolverine is slash damage so the durability aspect of it won't help against that if Wolverines his the right spot but he enhancement part of the suit will certainly help. The suit will amplify his healing factor, speed, agility, strength and pain tolerance. More than enough to allow him to take a few slashes and keep going. Wilson is smart enough to come up with a way to win, he's a brilliant strategist which is his greatest advantage. He will find a way to win for sure.

Logan is better in almost everyway.

Deathstroke has the advantage in reaction speed, strength, and although people are saying Logan is more skilled, I just don't see it. The vast majority of Logan's fights are him rushing in half berserk. Initially, I think Slade will be stunned by his claws. That said, his combat prowess will lead him to a way to kill Logan, such as slicing his bicep tendons and then choking him out for example. When he has the physical advantage (minus Wolverine's skeleton and regen), there are just too many options for him.

@sirfizzwhizz: k, Maybe the Terminator vs the Predator in high light of the new Terminator movie and Predator joining MKX

@sirfizzwhizz: You should totally do Creeper vs Spiderman; or Creeper vs Flash Venom

I HATE Wolverine. But I think he's going to win here. Everything Slade has is pretty much negated by that adamantium and the healing factor.

Slade is stronger, equally skilled, smarter, has a better arsenal, and is more tactically minded.

Wolverine has a better healing factor, more cutting power, better senses, and can only be beat by incap.

Both are about equal in terms of speed as far as I can tell. Slade has more overall durability, but Wolverine can't actually be decapitated, have any limbs removed, or anything along those lines. As for cutting power, Wolverine has cut most versions of the Hulk (including WWH I believe), Colossus, The Thing, and I think even Juggernaut's armor in the past. So I don't see Nth metal being overly effective against multiple attacks. However, Slade may cut Wolverine's flesh all day, but he's not scratching that Adamantium.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@chikur2: can't read that bro. Also I know it amps, I want to see some actual feats

@chaos911:

I have here some made with the nth armor.

Gallery

Resistance and it opens the plane is strength.

Gallery

@chaos911:

I have here some made with the nth armor.

Resistance and it opens the plane is strength.

Wolverine. His healing factor is way better than Deathstroke's. He'll shrug off anything Deathstroke lands on him and he's above Deathstroke in all other stats. In the long haul, Logan will outlast Deathstroke and Deathstroke will go down.

Besides he screws with logic.

Wolverine 50%

Deathstroke (Your vote) 53%

103% Because... Comicvine maths.

It just ain't the same.

neither are you. you use to be a great debater, now look at ya :)