Batroc (The Winter Soldier) vs Ozymandias (Wathcmen)

Rules

• Random encounter
• Movie versions
• No weapons
• No help
• Morals off,bloodlust
• Wins by death or incapacitation

Location: The Bus (S.H.I.E.L.D.S. airplane)

Batroc, his showing against Cap was cool, and no I wasn't impressed by Ozy beating up a past his prime threesome of Dan, Rors, and Comedian.

"But he caught a bullet!"

Ozy stomps.

Not only does he have feats, but he has good feats.

Batroc did what? Nothing. It might have looked impressive from a choreography standpoint (and it was), but ultimately he was completely unable to do anything to Cap and then when he pissed him off, he got promptly stomped on.

And we have absolutely nothing else to measure him. He could be a martial arts master or just an elite merc, but we can't say for sure because he doesn't have any other showings whatsoever.

Ozy, Baltroc has ONE feat, losing to Cap.

Ozy would beat the sh!t out of Batroc. It's not even close.

This. Batroc's only feat was losing.

Batroc wins...a trip to the hospital! I mean, am I right?

What good feats does Ozy have?

I don't even get what the fascination with Batroc is --- he pulls off one fancy flip and then gets pulverized like violence is going out of style.

Regarding Comedian being "past his prime", the detectives who examine his body state that he was in terrific shape and still built like a linebacker despite his age; in his fight with Ozy he was smashing his fists through concrete walls like they were made of paper. Quite frankly his display against Ozy was a lot more impressive than Batroc's display against Steve, and Ozy demolished the Comedian and then shattered a sheet of plate glass by flinging Blake's body through it ---- to put that into perspective, the detectives also state that if you stepped on the pedal and drove a car into a sheet of plate glass, you might put a crack in it.

@xanni15: Catching a bullet is substantially more impressive than anything Batroc has done. It's one thing to dodge a bullet, to catch a bullet travelling at 760mph which can dent heavy metal is something else.

Alexander

Ozymandias. Batroc lost to cap. Ozy caught a bullet and outsmarted Dr. Manhattan (an omnipotent being)

I'm just going to throw this out there before the misinformation begins. Once Cap started trying; Batroc lost. From the point he started trying, the beatdown fight lasted 23 seconds...

The evidence is put forward:

he wasn't omnipotent. just powerful.

Fascination? All I asked from the other person was what Ozy's good feats were? And you wrote what you did. -shrugs- I don't get the hatred towards Batroc.

So we agree that 'median was past his prime.

When strength is the only attribute that matters I'll agree that Ozy wins.

Okay.

@frozen: LOL

Every single fight Ozy is in, you can count on someone mentioning he caught a bullet. Big deal, there's nothing to say he could do it again, and even HE was surprised he did it.

It'll help him when Batroc unloads with his pistol, that he doesn't have.

Ozy had sooooooo much prep time and info on Dr. M, and he still didn't "defeat" him, but use those feats all you want. And who cares about catching a bullet, that doesn't factor into this fight.

@xanni15: Catching a bullet does factor in. Batroc has no feats to suggest he can even react to projectiles at 60mph. Ozy perceives at 760mph. Do you know why Batroc can't? Because he appeared for a minute and was soundly beaten in a fight.

Yeah,I think that Batroc doesn't have high chances here.He would just get demolished.

There isn't really any hatred against Batroc. There's a good deal of incredulity to the point where you have to wonder if we watched the same movie with the same Batroc, but that's about it. We aren't agreeing on the fact that Comedian was past his prime. I never said anything of the sort, in fact what I said careens in the opposite direction regarding the physicality of what you'd expect from someone past their prime. You chose to just sidestep the meaning of that post with an attempt at a pithy response --- primarily because you don't have a response to the fact that Ozy, without a great deal of exertion, evidently hits several times harder than a speeding car, something that matters a great deal in a fight. The bullet-catching feat is a display of combat reflexes, something that, again, matters a great deal in a fight, but if you keep saying "X attribute doesn't matter" enough times, you might eventually stumble upon a case where that's true.

When the ability to pull off a fancy flip and then get curbstomped so badly the whole of France actually felt a tinge of shame matters, I'll agree that Batroc wins. Batroc's performance is most notable for the fact that it is actually somewhat difficult for France to feel shame anymore. So kudos to him, I suppose.

Napolean is rolling in his grave :(

Don't hate on France too much, they make Grey Goose Vodka.

Jesus Christ what's with all this Batroc nonsense. Ozy godstomps.

@xanni15: Wut?

Why wouldn't he be able to do it again?

And how doesn't it factor into this fight? If he's so fast not even bullets can penetrate his defenses, what hope do punches and kicks have?

Ozy

bump

after a medium difficulty fight, Ozymadias.

@frozen: Ozy did it once, doesn't mean his reaction tie is 760mph.

Based off your previous comment it did seem like you were annoyed about Batroc being in battles period.

Yeah, we were agreeing that he's past his prime because it's painfully obvious he was past his prime. He was still strong for his current age, and with adrenaline pumping he wasn't feeling the pain from his punches. Not mentioned in the movie (so I guess it actually doesn't matter) but didn't Ozy get his butt handed to him by Comedian in his younger days? You can't be in your prime for 30 years, at some point you have to slow down. There's no way Comedian was still in his prime. If you want to think he was then we'll just agree to disagree.

I didn't side step anything. Ozy through him through the window, we both know he did that. Ozy caught one bullet, that doesn't make him a bullet timer. You disagree, because one scene>one scene. He beat up on three people (one of which had openly admitted he was out of shape, Dan) who were nowhere near his physical equal.

See? You have some weird obsession with trashing Batroc, but you say there's no hatred. lol Keep the jokes coming, jokes that add nothing.

Huh, why would you assume he could do it again? Just... because? I thought an actual feat had to be replicated or at least done in a similar way.

Again, he did it once, the bullet did harm him.

Just because you fought Cap doesn't mean you're on his level. Ozy easily

@xanni15: I don't think you get it, even if he did it once and can only react half that, it's still faster than Batroc because Batroc is featless. Ozy will counter every move Batroc attempts. It doesn't matter if he did it once, he only appeared in one movie.

First of all, ozy stomps.

Night owl in the prison fight was shown easily on batroc's level, and ozy handled him with ease.

After that, why don't we suggest a "time on screen" limit for cinema characters?

Like 5 min, not more...

Putting movie batroc in a fight is just like putting the "you're big" shield agent from the first thor....

seems madness to me.

No, because I've seen him do it and nothing has changed since then.

I thought an actual feat had to be replicated or at least done in a similar way.

Wut?

How many of the best feats of characters have only happened once? Yet everyone who isn't you on ComicVine accepts them.

Spider-Man only supported the Daily Bugle once. Thor lifted the Midgard serpent only once. Heck, almost all of Kyle Rayner's best feats (Who I'm glad is finally getting some more respect on here) only happened once. He only destroyed a planet once. The Supernova? The giant freaking safe? Only happened once

So yeah, you really are talking out of your ass here.

Again, he did it once,

So f****ing what? Is Superman automatically incapable of doing this again, just because it only happened once?

the bullet did harm him.

No it didn't. He recoil sent him far back enough that he fell down the stairs. He got up, pulled the bullet out of his hand, showing no discomfort. He was fine.

This whole thread is ridiculous, Nite Owl II would beat Batroc, let alone Ozymandias.

@sheenlantern: Regarding that Superman feat, that really is high end.

I can't see a credible or good case being made for Batroc. He's done nothing that puts him on Ozy level.

He catch one bullet,but in another scene of the movie he have dodged 4 to 5 bullets..bullet reaction time.

Skip to 3:15

Ozy stomps.

Finally, Ozymandias can't lose due to lack of feats compared with his opponent. He wins this.

Ozymandias.

Ozy. I think its a stomp but I'll wait for more comments.

This is a stomp

Is this a spite thread, or just a joke. I never liked the Watchmen, but c'mon.

Ozy easily humiliates and destroys Batroc.