Batroc The Leaper (The Winter Soldier) Vs Bane (TDKR)

It was supposed to be trump,a simple typo but your mind was filled with BS to comprehend that. Bane's mask was never broken in that entire movie,despite getting struck repeatedly by Batman,so how exactly is Batroc a character that hasn't shown the same level of striking power as Batman supposed to accomplish the same? pulling the tubes required the use of Batman's gauntlet blades a luxury that Batroc doesn't posses. Similarly Bane's strength trumps Batroc's advantages cause it was actually super human,nothing Batroc did was inhuman.

Your comment has also been flagged for calling me out for no reason at all, you could've addressed me without referring to me as a "typical fan",what exactly are you doing here if you'e not a typical fan of whatever character you like?

Edit: Looking at some of your earlier posts,you seem to be a Batman and villain hater.

Bane takes on Batroc, Rumlow, and Falcon all at once and obliterates each one of them.

@i_like_swords: There is no evidence that Cap wasn't trying? is this supposed to be a joke,Cap wasn't trying period.

Nah,Batroc the broken will the new meme on the street after Bane's done with him.

I pointed out the errors of your post. First in spelling, secondly in logic. It's not my fault your "argument" has fallacies (you rudely requested a person to prove their statement without providing any proof to back up your own). That is a double standard. In so doing, you seem to rank your opinion as more valuable than other people's. You didn't even notice that I gave no indication of who I thought would win this fight. I simply pointed out your post's inadequacies.

Calling my mind full of BS is far more flag worthy than me pointing out your double standards. But I won't stoop to that level. I believe in free expression.

I am a "hater" of biased people that use supposition as fact to support their point of view. On these forums, Batman supporters frequently fit this description.

@entropy_aegis: ... what?

I said Batroc annihilates Bane. And that I wasn't sure about his fight with Cap. How you managed to connect those two up is beyond me.

Your eyes comment was directed at anyone who thinks Cap wasn't holding back, which is an insult. You insulted me, anyone in this thread or any other thread which have shared my view, and anyone viewing the thread that isn't posting. You called all of them, and me, either visually impaired or mentally deficient. Which is a ban-worthy offence.

No it's not ban worthy,you on the other hand bullying another poster is definitely warning worthy. Batroc only has one fight in that entire flick,and now you've admitted to not being sure of how it went and yet you still insist Batroc not only wins but also solos the entire Nolan universe with his hands tied,an awfully BS statement coming from someone who thinks rather highly of his so called debating skills and post count. At this point it's clear that you remember the fight the way you want it to instead of how it actually was.

@regular_joe:

• No. Batman overpowered Bane because Bane fatigued,
• Come on, you're not even going to give this to Batman? Bane was not fatigued, he was just overpowered. Batman had trained a lot for the fight and he was just stronger at this point, that's all.
• after that none of Batman's punches were of any effect.
• True, but Banes had no effect on the Bat either.
• Yes, he cracked this man's neck:

And yes, he cracked his neck (not crushed his windpipe). The script asserts the writer's intentions:

And then the subtitles:

To do such a feat requires roughly from 800lbs of force-1000lbs something. Barry Allen in Arrow stated it takes 1,250lbs of pressure.

That actually is pretty impressive. I'm curious about the numbers, though. I think it's more of an angles thing than a straight "bend until it snaps" thing, which it doesn't look like he did. In the script it says he flipped his chin.

And those pillars are from Wall Street:

That's not plaster. He's punching into the pillars. Most cannot accomplish such a feat:

Those actually aren't pillars from Wall Street. These are, though:

These are actual stone/concrete/whatever from Wall Street. I suspect that Bane would have probably shattered his hand had he punched one of these.

• Cap didn't 'raise' his skill. He started to fight, we were not given any measure
• Captain America clearly raised the level of skill he was putting into fighting Batroc. He takes out at least 7-10 guys before Batroc with just hand to hand fighting and one-shots just about every one of them. Shield was only used for 1 or 2 guys. This is blatantly misrepresenting the facts.
• Batroc was, yes.
• Batroc was not the first guy Cap fought, again an epic misrepresentation. Cap literally fights, hand to hand, a ton of guys before fighting Batroc.
• However, he was knocking out and killing other mercenaries, with much more force exerted
• Nowhere does it say he killed anyone anyone else and nowhere does it even look like he killed anyone. One guy he tagged with the knife in the hand and another guy he knocked off the boat, but that didn't clearly look survivable. There's no reason to assume that Cap used any less force against Batroc than he used against every other guy who went down after one shot.
• No. Feeling out. Batroc was flat out knocked off balance
• Batroc was so much better than every other guy on the boat up to that point, Cap was totally surprised by his level of skill and was looking for an opening. This also is clear.
• Batman made an attempt to block, he couldn't. At the start of the fight, he blocks one but after that he cannot
• Agreed. For some reason, Bane...I mean that's not even a style, that's just right, left, right, left haymakers. Look at the gif you posted and tell me that's not just a guy throwing wild haymakers with a clear setup telegraph before each one.

• Not really. Had Batman attempted to do fancy flips, it wouldn't have worked.
• In the other scenario on the catwalk it would have been perfect. It's not just a flip, though. You get that, right? It's the ability to do anything more than just walk forward and eat hit after hit. There's a guy named Chris "The Crippler" Leben in the UFC who I hate watching because this is pretty much all he does. He gets owned all the time because he just wades forward into blows and unless his opponent sucks, he gets his ass kicked. It's not a good strategy unless the guy you're using it against has an equal level of suck fighting.
• Taking your opponents hits and trading is a dangerous strategy but it has it's trade-offs, it allows for sufficient hits to be returned
• The problem is that it is their only strategy. Bane seems to be unable to do anything more than wade through shots and deliver clearly telegraphed punches at the head and body.
• Again, I disagree. The GIFS of Bane reversing his position and sweeping are tactics not anyone can do.
• See, you're putting way too much thought into this stuff. If you're talking about the sweep (you never quote my stuff so I'm guessing) Batman tackled Bane and was on top of him. Bane threw him off. That's it. This requires no skill to accomplish as Batman didn't even try to stay on top.
• The sweep is a dirty tactic and the reversing of the position is a lock counter
• The sweep isn't dirty, it's just not very practical because it hardly ever works. If you've got a guy in ground and pound just pushing him off you isn't going to work.
• He sweeps towards the end. Prior to that, he counters Batman's punches
• I see no sweep, sir. He just pushes him off and Batman rolls.
• No. He was stumbling due to Bane's punches, thus he had no solid footing
• Yeh.
• No. They really don't. They expend alot of energy, leave you open for counters, put you off balance, the list goes on
• True, they aren't for the average guy to use, but high level movie type fighting people can use them to good use. Would I recommend Batman trying one? Probably not I guess since he couldn't even duck one of those shots much less back flip off a catwalk. Batroc absolutely is clearly effective with them and so was Cap.
• They are not really 'knocking' him back.
• They really are. Multiple times in fact. Three times at the beginning of the fight he kicks him and knocks him back. Once he gets kicked square in the chest and is knocked to the ground.
• Cap wasn't stationary, he was moving back.
• Because Batroc was kicking him.
• This is the same shield that's took a hit from Thor's mjolnir
• It is.
• His balance allowed him to get so easily tagged and countered. So it does matter
• Cap saw the opening and took it faster than Batroc could react (in the middle of his attacks) and shield bashed him a good 10 feet or so through the air. No matter what your balance is like, again, if you get hit that hard you're going for a ride.
• I'm saying no such thing, we just never saw how good his blocking ability is
• Agreed. Cap attacked while Batroc was attacking, he never had a chance to block most of it. I think we can assume, though, that given the level of his fighting ability, he has way better blocking than Batman does and certainly better than "I'll just let him hit me because I can't even feel it" Bane.
• He didn't take shots at will, he tried to attack but Cap countered him. We can't infer much of his blocking, we can infer that he was offensive but that left him open
• No, Cap took shots at will. We can easily infer that Batroc has block/counter/dodge ability at least in the range of his fighting ability which is tremendous.
• He takes 4 once Cap unarms himself. Prior to that he took about one
• Before Cap put the shield away he took at least three and still didn't go down. After he took another 4 or 5 and stillgot back up, even after Caps flip kick to the face. At this point Cap tackled him and rammed him through a wall/door and Batroc was still not knocked out. Cap has to hit him again before he's unconscious.
• But the problem is, Cap one-shots other people due to the force he was exerting. He wasn't hitting Batroc as hard as he was Bucky and prior to that, he was destroying the mercenaries due to brutally throwing his shield into them
• This is just totally incorrect. Cap was hitting guys hard enough to one shot them. If anything he was hitting Batroc harder than everyone else because he just goes flying. Plus the flip kick was clearly the hardest shot he had delivered to anyone in the film up to that point and Batroc still was not knocked out.
• The morphine allowed him to not feel pain. Batroc's kicks look ferocius because they can cause people mass amounts of pain. It's not very effective when your opponent can't feel your attacks
• Again, just because you can't feel your legs breaking, doesn't mean they're not breaking. This, seriously, is a terrible "power". He still takes damage just like everybody else, he just doesn't know that his knees have been destroyed until he just isn't able to walk anymore.
• Bane will most likely snatch Batroc and then throw him to the floor, or knock Batroc off balance, considering Batroc left himself as such
• Yeah, there is no chance of Bane "snatching" Batroc. Bane has shown one tenth (being generous) of the skill that Batroc demonstrated against Cap. Had he been fighting Bane we would have seen even more crazy stuff and Bane would have just been pounded from all directions.
• What damage? To be effective, he'll need to stop his mask or take Bane down to the floor, to which he cannot afford to do
• No. To do damage he just has to hit him, just like anyone else. You are either mistaken in how Banes "powers" work, or you are just willfully stating incorrect things. The morphine, as you said, makes it so he doesn't feel pain. That's it. It has nothing to do with him not actually taking damage.
• IIRC he snapped one of their necks, he had no problem with killing and did so in the first Captain America film
• I did not see a neck break, sir. If it's there, I missed it. Not saying he couldn't or didn't, I just didn't see it.
• I much prefer Cap. Better story
• ...yeah, I think I'm with you. RDJ was waaay to big in the Avengers imo. I hope they even it out some in the next one.

@regular_joe: bane is still more durable than batroc. Batroc still got wtf stomped. He is faster than bane but bane is capable enough to get his hands on batroc. Steve even brawled with him not even needing much skill. You saw how batroc was speared like plank from cap but yet batroc was capable of dodging caps shield but couldnt keep himself from being tackled by cap who wasnt even fighting full speed.

Still saying Batroc not surprised by those siding with Bane since DC fans are automatically hateful of anything Marvel related. Oh well sucks to bee you guys.

@entropy_aegis: Really cause from what I remember Bruce punched him in the mask and he was like oh shit.

@farkam: Not for me if I know a DC character will beat a Marvel character I yield and accept. But I find movie Batroc would do much better against Nolan's Bane given how slow and subdued he was compared to his comic version. If it was comic Bane vs comic Batroc yes I agree 100% Bane would win. But we are talking about his their movie counterparts.

That's your opinion of how this fight would go. Others disagree. That doesn't mean they "hate" Marvel.

And I say its false. But thats just my opinion.

@frozen said:

@regular_joe:

• No. Batman overpowered Bane because Bane fatigued,
• Come on, you're not even going to give this to Batman? Bane was not fatigued, he was just overpowered. Batman had trained a lot for the fight and he was just stronger at this point, that's all.
• after that none of Batman's punches were of any effect.
• True, but Banes had no effect on the Bat either.
• Yes, he cracked this man's neck:

And yes, he cracked his neck (not crushed his windpipe). The script asserts the writer's intentions:

And then the subtitles:

To do such a feat requires roughly from 800lbs of force-1000lbs something. Barry Allen in Arrow stated it takes 1,250lbs of pressure.

That actually is pretty impressive. I'm curious about the numbers, though. I think it's more of an angles thing than a straight "bend until it snaps" thing, which it doesn't look like he did. In the script it says he flipped his chin.

And those pillars are from Wall Street:

That's not plaster. He's punching into the pillars. Most cannot accomplish such a feat:

Those actually aren't pillars from Wall Street. These are, though:

These are actual stone/concrete/whatever from Wall Street. I suspect that Bane would have probably shattered his hand had he punched one of these.

• Cap didn't 'raise' his skill. He started to fight, we were not given any measure
• Captain America clearly raised the level of skill he was putting into fighting Batroc. He takes out at least 7-10 guys before Batroc with just hand to hand fighting and one-shots just about every one of them. Shield was only used for 1 or 2 guys. This is blatantly misrepresenting the facts.
• Batroc was, yes.
• Batroc was not the first guy Cap fought, again an epic misrepresentation. Cap literally fights, hand to hand, a ton of guys before fighting Batroc.
• However, he was knocking out and killing other mercenaries, with much more force exerted
• Nowhere does it say he killed anyone anyone else and nowhere does it even look like he killed anyone. One guy he tagged with the knife in the hand and another guy he knocked off the boat, but that didn't clearly look survivable. There's no reason to assume that Cap used any less force against Batroc than he used against every other guy who went down after one shot.
• No. Feeling out. Batroc was flat out knocked off balance
• Batroc was so much better than every other guy on the boat up to that point, Cap was totally surprised by his level of skill and was looking for an opening. This also is clear.
• Batman made an attempt to block, he couldn't. At the start of the fight, he blocks one but after that he cannot
• Agreed. For some reason, Bane...I mean that's not even a style, that's just right, left, right, left haymakers. Look at the gif you posted and tell me that's not just a guy throwing wild haymakers with a clear setup telegraph before each one.

• Not really. Had Batman attempted to do fancy flips, it wouldn't have worked.
• In the other scenario on the catwalk it would have been perfect. It's not just a flip, though. You get that, right? It's the ability to do anything more than just walk forward and eat hit after hit. There's a guy named Chris "The Crippler" Leben in the UFC who I hate watching because this is pretty much all he does. He gets owned all the time because he just wades forward into blows and unless his opponent sucks, he gets his ass kicked. It's not a good strategy unless the guy you're using it against has an equal level of suck fighting.
• Taking your opponents hits and trading is a dangerous strategy but it has it's trade-offs, it allows for sufficient hits to be returned
• The problem is that it is their only strategy. Bane seems to be unable to do anything more than wade through shots and deliver clearly telegraphed punches at the head and body.
• Again, I disagree. The GIFS of Bane reversing his position and sweeping are tactics not anyone can do.
• See, you're putting way too much thought into this stuff. If you're talking about the sweep (you never quote my stuff so I'm guessing) Batman tackled Bane and was on top of him. Bane threw him off. That's it. This requires no skill to accomplish as Batman didn't even try to stay on top.
• The sweep is a dirty tactic and the reversing of the position is a lock counter
• The sweep isn't dirty, it's just not very practical because it hardly ever works. If you've got a guy in ground and pound just pushing him off you isn't going to work.
• He sweeps towards the end. Prior to that, he counters Batman's punches
• I see no sweep, sir. He just pushes him off and Batman rolls.
• No. He was stumbling due to Bane's punches, thus he had no solid footing
• Yeh.
• No. They really don't. They expend alot of energy, leave you open for counters, put you off balance, the list goes on
• True, they aren't for the average guy to use, but high level movie type fighting people can use them to good use. Would I recommend Batman trying one? Probably not I guess since he couldn't even duck one of those shots much less back flip off a catwalk. Batroc absolutely is clearly effective with them and so was Cap.
• They are not really 'knocking' him back.
• They really are. Multiple times in fact. Three times at the beginning of the fight he kicks him and knocks him back. Once he gets kicked square in the chest and is knocked to the ground.
• Cap wasn't stationary, he was moving back.
• Because Batroc was kicking him.
• This is the same shield that's took a hit from Thor's mjolnir
• It is.
• His balance allowed him to get so easily tagged and countered. So it does matter
• Cap saw the opening and took it faster than Batroc could react (in the middle of his attacks) and shield bashed him a good 10 feet or so through the air. No matter what your balance is like, again, if you get hit that hard you're going for a ride.
• I'm saying no such thing, we just never saw how good his blocking ability is
• Agreed. Cap attacked while Batroc was attacking, he never had a chance to block most of it. I think we can assume, though, that given the level of his fighting ability, he has way better blocking than Batman does and certainly better than "I'll just let him hit me because I can't even feel it" Bane.
• He didn't take shots at will, he tried to attack but Cap countered him. We can't infer much of his blocking, we can infer that he was offensive but that left him open
• No, Cap took shots at will. We can easily infer that Batroc has block/counter/dodge ability at least in the range of his fighting ability which is tremendous.
• He takes 4 once Cap unarms himself. Prior to that he took about one
• Before Cap put the shield away he took at least three and still didn't go down. After he took another 4 or 5 and stillgot back up, even after Caps flip kick to the face. At this point Cap tackled him and rammed him through a wall/door and Batroc was still not knocked out. Cap has to hit him again before he's unconscious.
• But the problem is, Cap one-shots other people due to the force he was exerting. He wasn't hitting Batroc as hard as he was Bucky and prior to that, he was destroying the mercenaries due to brutally throwing his shield into them
• This is just totally incorrect. Cap was hitting guys hard enough to one shot them. If anything he was hitting Batroc harder than everyone else because he just goes flying. Plus the flip kick was clearly the hardest shot he had delivered to anyone in the film up to that point and Batroc still was not knocked out.
• The morphine allowed him to not feel pain. Batroc's kicks look ferocius because they can cause people mass amounts of pain. It's not very effective when your opponent can't feel your attacks
• Again, just because you can't feel your legs breaking, doesn't mean they're not breaking. This, seriously, is a terrible "power". He still takes damage just like everybody else, he just doesn't know that his knees have been destroyed until he just isn't able to walk anymore.
• Bane will most likely snatch Batroc and then throw him to the floor, or knock Batroc off balance, considering Batroc left himself as such
• Yeah, there is no chance of Bane "snatching" Batroc. Bane has shown one tenth (being generous) of the skill that Batroc demonstrated against Cap. Had he been fighting Bane we would have seen even more crazy stuff and Bane would have just been pounded from all directions.
• What damage? To be effective, he'll need to stop his mask or take Bane down to the floor, to which he cannot afford to do
• No. To do damage he just has to hit him, just like anyone else. You are either mistaken in how Banes "powers" work, or you are just willfully stating incorrect things. The morphine, as you said, makes it so he doesn't feel pain. That's it. It has nothing to do with him not actually taking damage.
• IIRC he snapped one of their necks, he had no problem with killing and did so in the first Captain America film
• I did not see a neck break, sir. If it's there, I missed it. Not saying he couldn't or didn't, I just didn't see it.
• I much prefer Cap. Better story
• ...yeah, I think I'm with you. RDJ was waaay to big in the Avengers imo. I hope they even it out some in the next one.

So, yeah couple more points.

Batroc also was able to dodge the shield after Cap threw it without even looking at it. Cap threw it at him from outside the room, behind his back, and Batroc still managed to dodge it.

Batroc is clearly outside of Banes ability to take him. I just watched it again last night myself taking note (as well as I could) of the fight and those preceding it. Batroc is well beyond Bane in fighting ability, speed, at least on par with durability after taking on those shots from Cap. The only one I'll give Bane for sure is strength, but even then it's not by such a wide margin that it cannot be overcome by a regular guy as Batman clearly overpowered him at one point.

Batroc in a walk. Easily Batroc.

@matchesmalone21:

@regular_joe said:

@frozen said:

@regular_joe:

• No. Batman overpowered Bane because Bane fatigued,
• Come on, you're not even going to give this to Batman? Bane was not fatigued, he was just overpowered. Batman had trained a lot for the fight and he was just stronger at this point, that's all.
• after that none of Batman's punches were of any effect.
• True, but Banes had no effect on the Bat either.
• Yes, he cracked this man's neck:

And yes, he cracked his neck (not crushed his windpipe). The script asserts the writer's intentions:

And then the subtitles:

To do such a feat requires roughly from 800lbs of force-1000lbs something. Barry Allen in Arrow stated it takes 1,250lbs of pressure.

That actually is pretty impressive. I'm curious about the numbers, though. I think it's more of an angles thing than a straight "bend until it snaps" thing, which it doesn't look like he did. In the script it says he flipped his chin.

And those pillars are from Wall Street:

That's not plaster. He's punching into the pillars. Most cannot accomplish such a feat:

Those actually aren't pillars from Wall Street. These are, though:

These are actual stone/concrete/whatever from Wall Street. I suspect that Bane would have probably shattered his hand had he punched one of these.

• Cap didn't 'raise' his skill. He started to fight, we were not given any measure
• Captain America clearly raised the level of skill he was putting into fighting Batroc. He takes out at least 7-10 guys before Batroc with just hand to hand fighting and one-shots just about every one of them. Shield was only used for 1 or 2 guys. This is blatantly misrepresenting the facts.
• Batroc was, yes.
• Batroc was not the first guy Cap fought, again an epic misrepresentation. Cap literally fights, hand to hand, a ton of guys before fighting Batroc.
• However, he was knocking out and killing other mercenaries, with much more force exerted
• Nowhere does it say he killed anyone anyone else and nowhere does it even look like he killed anyone. One guy he tagged with the knife in the hand and another guy he knocked off the boat, but that didn't clearly look survivable. There's no reason to assume that Cap used any less force against Batroc than he used against every other guy who went down after one shot.
• No. Feeling out. Batroc was flat out knocked off balance
• Batroc was so much better than every other guy on the boat up to that point, Cap was totally surprised by his level of skill and was looking for an opening. This also is clear.
• Batman made an attempt to block, he couldn't. At the start of the fight, he blocks one but after that he cannot
• Agreed. For some reason, Bane...I mean that's not even a style, that's just right, left, right, left haymakers. Look at the gif you posted and tell me that's not just a guy throwing wild haymakers with a clear setup telegraph before each one.

• Not really. Had Batman attempted to do fancy flips, it wouldn't have worked.
• In the other scenario on the catwalk it would have been perfect. It's not just a flip, though. You get that, right? It's the ability to do anything more than just walk forward and eat hit after hit. There's a guy named Chris "The Crippler" Leben in the UFC who I hate watching because this is pretty much all he does. He gets owned all the time because he just wades forward into blows and unless his opponent sucks, he gets his ass kicked. It's not a good strategy unless the guy you're using it against has an equal level of suck fighting.
• Taking your opponents hits and trading is a dangerous strategy but it has it's trade-offs, it allows for sufficient hits to be returned
• The problem is that it is their only strategy. Bane seems to be unable to do anything more than wade through shots and deliver clearly telegraphed punches at the head and body.
• Again, I disagree. The GIFS of Bane reversing his position and sweeping are tactics not anyone can do.
• See, you're putting way too much thought into this stuff. If you're talking about the sweep (you never quote my stuff so I'm guessing) Batman tackled Bane and was on top of him. Bane threw him off. That's it. This requires no skill to accomplish as Batman didn't even try to stay on top.
• The sweep is a dirty tactic and the reversing of the position is a lock counter
• The sweep isn't dirty, it's just not very practical because it hardly ever works. If you've got a guy in ground and pound just pushing him off you isn't going to work.
• He sweeps towards the end. Prior to that, he counters Batman's punches
• I see no sweep, sir. He just pushes him off and Batman rolls.
• No. He was stumbling due to Bane's punches, thus he had no solid footing
• Yeh.
• No. They really don't. They expend alot of energy, leave you open for counters, put you off balance, the list goes on
• True, they aren't for the average guy to use, but high level movie type fighting people can use them to good use. Would I recommend Batman trying one? Probably not I guess since he couldn't even duck one of those shots much less back flip off a catwalk. Batroc absolutely is clearly effective with them and so was Cap.
• They are not really 'knocking' him back.
• They really are. Multiple times in fact. Three times at the beginning of the fight he kicks him and knocks him back. Once he gets kicked square in the chest and is knocked to the ground.
• Cap wasn't stationary, he was moving back.
• Because Batroc was kicking him.
• This is the same shield that's took a hit from Thor's mjolnir
• It is.
• His balance allowed him to get so easily tagged and countered. So it does matter
• Cap saw the opening and took it faster than Batroc could react (in the middle of his attacks) and shield bashed him a good 10 feet or so through the air. No matter what your balance is like, again, if you get hit that hard you're going for a ride.
• I'm saying no such thing, we just never saw how good his blocking ability is
• Agreed. Cap attacked while Batroc was attacking, he never had a chance to block most of it. I think we can assume, though, that given the level of his fighting ability, he has way better blocking than Batman does and certainly better than "I'll just let him hit me because I can't even feel it" Bane.
• He didn't take shots at will, he tried to attack but Cap countered him. We can't infer much of his blocking, we can infer that he was offensive but that left him open
• No, Cap took shots at will. We can easily infer that Batroc has block/counter/dodge ability at least in the range of his fighting ability which is tremendous.
• He takes 4 once Cap unarms himself. Prior to that he took about one
• Before Cap put the shield away he took at least three and still didn't go down. After he took another 4 or 5 and stillgot back up, even after Caps flip kick to the face. At this point Cap tackled him and rammed him through a wall/door and Batroc was still not knocked out. Cap has to hit him again before he's unconscious.
• But the problem is, Cap one-shots other people due to the force he was exerting. He wasn't hitting Batroc as hard as he was Bucky and prior to that, he was destroying the mercenaries due to brutally throwing his shield into them
• This is just totally incorrect. Cap was hitting guys hard enough to one shot them. If anything he was hitting Batroc harder than everyone else because he just goes flying. Plus the flip kick was clearly the hardest shot he had delivered to anyone in the film up to that point and Batroc still was not knocked out.
• The morphine allowed him to not feel pain. Batroc's kicks look ferocius because they can cause people mass amounts of pain. It's not very effective when your opponent can't feel your attacks
• Again, just because you can't feel your legs breaking, doesn't mean they're not breaking. This, seriously, is a terrible "power". He still takes damage just like everybody else, he just doesn't know that his knees have been destroyed until he just isn't able to walk anymore.
• Bane will most likely snatch Batroc and then throw him to the floor, or knock Batroc off balance, considering Batroc left himself as such
• Yeah, there is no chance of Bane "snatching" Batroc. Bane has shown one tenth (being generous) of the skill that Batroc demonstrated against Cap. Had he been fighting Bane we would have seen even more crazy stuff and Bane would have just been pounded from all directions.
• What damage? To be effective, he'll need to stop his mask or take Bane down to the floor, to which he cannot afford to do
• No. To do damage he just has to hit him, just like anyone else. You are either mistaken in how Banes "powers" work, or you are just willfully stating incorrect things. The morphine, as you said, makes it so he doesn't feel pain. That's it. It has nothing to do with him not actually taking damage.
• IIRC he snapped one of their necks, he had no problem with killing and did so in the first Captain America film
• I did not see a neck break, sir. If it's there, I missed it. Not saying he couldn't or didn't, I just didn't see it.
• I much prefer Cap. Better story
• ...yeah, I think I'm with you. RDJ was waaay to big in the Avengers imo. I hope they even it out some in the next one.

So, yeah couple more points.

Batroc also was able to dodge the shield after Cap threw it without even looking at it. Cap threw it at him from outside the room, behind his back, and Batroc still managed to dodge it.

Batroc is clearly outside of Banes ability to take him. I just watched it again last night myself taking note (as well as I could) of the fight and those preceding it. Batroc is well beyond Bane in fighting ability, speed, at least on par with durability after taking on those shots from Cap. The only one I'll give Bane for sure is strength, but even then it's not by such a wide margin that it cannot be overcome by a regular guy as Batman clearly overpowered him at one point.

Batroc in a walk. Easily Batroc.

Read that. Regular_Joe is on top of this ****, plus at this point I'm pretty much done with this conversation so if all of you would stop quoting my damn post and bringing me back that would be great.

Batroc has no feats at all.Bane obviously

As badass as Batroc and his kicking was, I don't see how he's going to get past Bane's resistance and durability. Bane probably breaks his legs.

As badass as Batroc and his kicking was, I don't see how he's going to get past Bane's resistance and durability. Bane probably breaks his legs.

Batroc.

How is this not locked?

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