Batman (Yellow Power Ring) vs. Superman

Batman was offered a Yellow Power ring at one point, and turned it down, if he had kept it, could he have beaten Superman?

Morals on

Fight takes place in Gotham

Win by Death, K.O., or BFR

EDIT: Batman has 1 year to master the Yellow Power Ring

Nope.

Batman

@CitizenBane said:

Nope.

@Stronger said:

Batman

Constructs can be(and have) been shattered by Superman and superman level beings before.

It's going to happen here.

Superman stomps any inexperienced lantern.

@NerdsFTW said:

@Stronger said:

Batman

Constructs can be(and have) been shattered by Superman and superman level beings before.

It's going to happen here.

Superman stomps any inexperienced lantern.

Bats isn't inexpierienced.Also Bats isn't Sinestro.

@NerdsFTW: I don't think so. An inexperienced Kyle was capable of containing Ultraman.

Too be honest, with Batman's creativity, fighting skill, and determination, I think he could win this. I'm not saying he is going to win this, but it's possible.

@Stronger said:

Bats isn't inexpierienced.Also Bats isn't Sinestro.

OP states he's using a yellow power ring, not that he has mastered the ring's power, and we can't assume that he has either.

Batman + Power Ring vs Superman has been done before.

@Wolfrazer said:

@NerdsFTW: But don't you know? Batman can master ANYTHING he gets his hands on.....ya relatable my FOOT.

Until it states that he's mastered it in OP, I stick by my original answer.

@Baldy said:

Batman + Power Ring vs Superman has been done before.

Indeed it has.

Batman vs Superman

batman vs superman

-Neither of them are locked, just bump those threads with your idea of how the battle would turn out instead of making specific variations of matches, mods hate that.

I'm done here.

Superman...

batman wins w/ out the ring

@NerdsFTW:@Baldy: Based on the function of Yellow Power Ring, it is a completely different battle from anything involving a Green Power Ring

I know that other Ring battles with Superman and Batman have been done, the Yellow Power Ring is powered by something else completely making it a totally different battle.

@NerdsFTW said:

@Stronger said:

Bats isn't inexpierienced.Also Bats isn't Sinestro.

OP states he's using a yellow power ring, not that he has mastered the ring's power, and we can't assume that he has either.

Batman has already mastered it.

Superman takes his head off after 0.2 seconds.

superman will win. he just crushed GL's constructs in justice League.

With the Yellow Ring things would be a bit different, but not much.

Stronger states that Batman has mastered it, but he is not the original poster, so currently Batman is only experienced with the Yellow Ring. I would assume the same way any Lantern is experienced with their ring.

Still, Batman wins, he can create a worm hole and send Superman into a Red Sun.

Also see arguments here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-batmanread/687675/

@CitizenBane said:

Nope.

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

With the Yellow Ring things would be a bit different, but not much.

Stronger states that Batman has mastered it, but he is not the original poster, so currently Batman is only experienced with the Yellow Ring. I would assume the same way any Lantern is experienced with their ring.

Still, Batman wins, he can create a worm hole and send Superman into a Red Sun.

Also see arguments here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-batmanread/687675/

Batman has no feats with a ring. I doubt he has the skills to create a worm hole. OP said nothing about him being experienced at all so...

@TheGraySon said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

With the Yellow Ring things would be a bit different, but not much.

Stronger states that Batman has mastered it, but he is not the original poster, so currently Batman is only experienced with the Yellow Ring. I would assume the same way any Lantern is experienced with their ring.

Still, Batman wins, he can create a worm hole and send Superman into a Red Sun.

Also see arguments here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-batmanread/687675/

Batman has no feats with a ring. I doubt he has the skills to create a worm hole. OP said nothing about him being experienced at all so...

This is a hypothetical character in a battle, we cannot depend upon feats in this situation.

"7. Theoretical Characters Don't Have Feats, Yet You Can Still Argue For Them Using Feats

So, what if I gave KickAss a Green Lantern ring, the Infinity Gauntlet, and a full year to learn how to use them.

Kickass has thus become a theoretical character. You can't argue that Hit Girl has better or more impressive feats (fighting feats, etc.) than Kickass, and expect that to mean anything since this KickAss has theoretical items/power that will enable him to do amazing things he has never done before.

This also brings me to the fact that you should make sure you read the Original Post, and know the situation and scenario surrounding a battle.

But yeah, I could now use Infinity Gauntlet feats to establish what's within the power of the Infinity Gauntlets and then argue for KickAss with the Infinity Gauntlet. Though, keep in mind you can still argue for things the Infinity Gauntlet has not done on panel, based on what should be within its power.

In response, my opponent may use Intelligence Feats of KickAss and an argument to establish that he may be so stupid that he simply kills himself with it.

Theoretical characters don't have feats, but you can use the feats of the theoretical situation and the original character to establish what the person may be able to do. Furthermore, you can use the logical implications of what the theoretical character may be able to do based on the logical implications of what he was given in the situation." - http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/feats-and-how-to-use-them/626504/#19 posted by Final Arrow

Also the Original Post: "Batman was offered a Yellow Power ring at one point, and turned it down, if he had kept it,"

Now we have to have a war of semantics. The Original Post suggests that Batman kept the Yellow Ring when offered it. It does not however suggest that he (Batman) got then ring and rushed off to fight Superman.

It suggests that he got some experience with the ring first.

Perhaps Man_of_Miracles can shed some further light on the subject.

However if Batman is experienced, there are plenty of powers the Yellow Ring grants, that would allow him to bring down Superman. One of those the ability to augment himself to metahuman levels, already increasing his strength, durability, and speed.

@Moon_Bat_87: I dont think a lantern could take Superman without constructs. While his strength, durability and speed are increased, Clark still beats him in every category. Maybe his H2H skills could give him an edge, but i cant see him winning with just that.

Some people just strive to be wrong on this site ...... Superman pimp slaps the ring off batman's finger.

@TheGraySon said:

@Moon_Bat_87: I dont think a lantern could take Superman without constructs. While his strength, durability and speed are increased, Clark still beats him in every category. Maybe his H2H skills could give him an edge, but i cant see him winning with just that.

Well, your right I agree, and I hope that I did not come across as suggesting that Batman would not take on Superman without Constructs.

And I also agree that Superman beats him in every category, save Hand to hand skill. This along with Constructs and other ring abilities gives Batman the ability to stand against Superman.

And I would personally argue, defeat him.

@Moon_Bat_87: I see what you mean, and hell i think if Bruce were as experienced as Hal hed give Clark a hell of a fight. The only reason i cant seem to give a lantern even if its an experienced Bruce a win is because they just dont have the combat speed or durability to keep up with Clark.

Superman stomps.

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

@TheGraySon said:

@Moon_Bat_87: I see what you mean, and hell i think if Bruce were as experienced as Hal hed give Clark a hell of a fight. The only reason i cant seem to give a lantern even if its an experienced Bruce a win is because they just dont have the combat speed or durability to keep up with Clark.

And I see what you mean as well.

Cheers!

Superman

@CitizenBane said:

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

And normally that is exactly what I would say.

Batman loses to Superman in nearly every circumstance.

Batman with the Kryptonite Ring stands a chance.

Batman with Green/Yellow Lantern ring stands a greater chance.

He'd have a way better chance using a Green Lantern ring than a Yellow power ring.

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@CitizenBane said:

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

And normally that is exactly what I would say.

Batman loses to Superman in nearly every circumstance.

Batman with the Kryptonite Ring stands a chance.

Batman with Green/Yellow Lantern ring stands a greater chance.

I think the Kryptonite Ring is pretty useless against Superman. He could flick a booger at Batman from a mile away and kill him without ever getting within range of the Kryptonite radiation.

If Batman has mastered the Yellow Lantern ring then he ought to stand a chance at KO'ing Supes. Superman should be able to beat, but not outright stomp any single experienced Lantern. Lanterns are supposed to be pretty dang powerful.

@Malonius said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@CitizenBane said:

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

And normally that is exactly what I would say.

Batman loses to Superman in nearly every circumstance.

Batman with the Kryptonite Ring stands a chance.

Batman with Green/Yellow Lantern ring stands a greater chance.

I think the Kryptonite Ring is pretty useless against Superman. He could flick a booger at Batman from a mile away and kill him without ever getting within range of the Kryptonite radiation.

If Batman has mastered the Yellow Lantern ring then he ought to stand a chance at KO'ing Supes. Superman should be able to beat, but not outright stomp any single experienced Lantern. Lanterns are supposed to be pretty dang powerful.

If it was useless against him, why did Superman give it to (allow) Batman to have it to be used should Superman ever go "dark side".

And I generally agree with your last part.

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

If it was useless against him, why did Superman give it to (allow) Batman to have it to be used should Superman ever go "dark side".

Cuz that's something called "PLOT"

if Batman came at Superman with a K ring, Superman could whistle a tunein his direction, freezing Batman in place instantly .... pretty simple .... Sinestro trashed Batman when he had the green ring on .... so that's out too

@BlueComet: It has been argued he couldn't use a Green Power Ring because he has never gotten over his parents deaths.

Also a Yellow Power Ring is based on the users ability to instill fear, who instills more fear than Batman?

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@BlueComet: It has been argued he couldn't use a Green Power Ring because he has never gotten over his parents deaths.

Also a Yellow Power Ring is based on the users ability to instill fear, who instills more fear than Batman?

Scarecrow, Darkseid, the Spectre ... just to name a few

@Ancient_0f_Days:

It was a purposeful overstatement.

But really he can instill a lot of fear.

@Man_of_Miracles: Sinestro for one. And Batman would be so much more powerful with a Green ring IMO. He has more will power than even Spectre does and is possibly the second strongest will next to Hal.

@BlueComet: Fair enough. But one of his main things is fear.

@Man_of_Miracles: True.

@BlueComet: Lol Waldo is probably like oh ****

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

If it was useless against him, why did Superman give it to (allow) Batman to have it to be used should Superman ever go "dark side".

Cuz that's something called "PLOT"

if Batman came at Superman with a K ring, Superman could whistle a tunein his direction, freezing Batman in place instantly .... pretty simple .... Sinestro trashed Batman when he had the green ring on .... so that's out too

Yep.

Batman win.

Bump

Batman can defeat Superman without a power ring. A power ring + Batman = Batman wins 9/10

@Outside_85 said:

Superman takes his head off after 0.2 seconds.

Superman ftw

Guys think about it. Any lantern ring is capable of creating radiation, light, heat practically anything you could imagine no matter the color. Now Batman as a yellow lantern would already be on a black Adam power level since he could practically mimic everything black Adam can do, but with his knowledge and skills it's a no brainer that Batman could wreck Superman. All he would need is to think of kryptonite and BAM! Superman is down for the count

Batman spite stomps, he'd be one of the strongest non abstracts in the setting.