#1 Edited by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman was offered a Yellow Power ring at one point, and turned it down, if he had kept it, could he have beaten Superman?

Morals on

Fight takes place in Gotham

Win by Death, K.O., or BFR

EDIT: Batman has 1 year to master the Yellow Power Ring

#2 Posted by Saren (25065 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.

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#3 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#4 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (3854 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Nope.

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#5 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

Batman

Constructs can be(and have) been shattered by Superman and superman level beings before.

It's going to happen here.

Superman stomps any inexperienced lantern.

#6 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Stronger said:

Batman

Constructs can be(and have) been shattered by Superman and superman level beings before.

It's going to happen here.

Superman stomps any inexperienced lantern.

Bats isn't inexpierienced.Also Bats isn't Sinestro.

#7 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: I don't think so. An inexperienced Kyle was capable of containing Ultraman.

Too be honest, with Batman's creativity, fighting skill, and determination, I think he could win this. I'm not saying he is going to win this, but it's possible.

#8 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

Bats isn't inexpierienced.Also Bats isn't Sinestro.

OP states he's using a yellow power ring, not that he has mastered the ring's power, and we can't assume that he has either.

#9 Posted by Baldy (4914 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman + Power Ring vs Superman has been done before.

#10 Edited by Wolfrazer (7670 posts) - - Show Bio
@NerdsFTW:  But don't you know? Batman can master ANYTHING he gets his hands on.....ya relatable my FOOT.
#11 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer said:

@NerdsFTW: But don't you know? Batman can master ANYTHING he gets his hands on.....ya relatable my FOOT.

Until it states that he's mastered it in OP, I stick by my original answer.

@Baldy said:

Batman + Power Ring vs Superman has been done before.

Indeed it has.

Batman vs Superman

batman vs superman

-Neither of them are locked, just bump those threads with your idea of how the battle would turn out instead of making specific variations of matches, mods hate that.

I'm done here.

#12 Edited by Wolfrazer (7670 posts) - - Show Bio
@NerdsFTW:  Ya I agree with ya.
#13 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman...

#14 Posted by Batnandez (511 posts) - - Show Bio

batman wins w/ out the ring

#15 Edited by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW:@Baldy: Based on the function of Yellow Power Ring, it is a completely different battle from anything involving a Green Power Ring

I know that other Ring battles with Superman and Batman have been done, the Yellow Power Ring is powered by something else completely making it a totally different battle.

#16 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Stronger said:

Bats isn't inexpierienced.Also Bats isn't Sinestro.

OP states he's using a yellow power ring, not that he has mastered the ring's power, and we can't assume that he has either.

Batman has already mastered it.

#17 Posted by Outside_85 (10240 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman takes his head off after 0.2 seconds.

#18 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

superman will win. he just crushed GL's constructs in justice League.

#19 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

With the Yellow Ring things would be a bit different, but not much.

Stronger states that Batman has mastered it, but he is not the original poster, so currently Batman is only experienced with the Yellow Ring. I would assume the same way any Lantern is experienced with their ring.

Still, Batman wins, he can create a worm hole and send Superman into a Red Sun.

Also see arguments here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-batmanread/687675/

#20 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Nope.

#21 Edited by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

With the Yellow Ring things would be a bit different, but not much.

Stronger states that Batman has mastered it, but he is not the original poster, so currently Batman is only experienced with the Yellow Ring. I would assume the same way any Lantern is experienced with their ring.

Still, Batman wins, he can create a worm hole and send Superman into a Red Sun.

Also see arguments here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-batmanread/687675/

Batman has no feats with a ring. I doubt he has the skills to create a worm hole. OP said nothing about him being experienced at all so...

#22 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGraySon said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

With the Yellow Ring things would be a bit different, but not much.

Stronger states that Batman has mastered it, but he is not the original poster, so currently Batman is only experienced with the Yellow Ring. I would assume the same way any Lantern is experienced with their ring.

Still, Batman wins, he can create a worm hole and send Superman into a Red Sun.

Also see arguments here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-batmanread/687675/

Batman has no feats with a ring. I doubt he has the skills to create a worm hole. OP said nothing about him being experienced at all so...

This is a hypothetical character in a battle, we cannot depend upon feats in this situation.

"7. Theoretical Characters Don't Have Feats, Yet You Can Still Argue For Them Using Feats

So, what if I gave KickAss a Green Lantern ring, the Infinity Gauntlet, and a full year to learn how to use them.

Kickass has thus become a theoretical character. You can't argue that Hit Girl has better or more impressive feats (fighting feats, etc.) than Kickass, and expect that to mean anything since this KickAss has theoretical items/power that will enable him to do amazing things he has never done before.

This also brings me to the fact that you should make sure you read the Original Post, and know the situation and scenario surrounding a battle.

But yeah, I could now use Infinity Gauntlet feats to establish what's within the power of the Infinity Gauntlets and then argue for KickAss with the Infinity Gauntlet. Though, keep in mind you can still argue for things the Infinity Gauntlet has not done on panel, based on what should be within its power.

In response, my opponent may use Intelligence Feats of KickAss and an argument to establish that he may be so stupid that he simply kills himself with it.

Theoretical characters don't have feats, but you can use the feats of the theoretical situation and the original character to establish what the person may be able to do. Furthermore, you can use the logical implications of what the theoretical character may be able to do based on the logical implications of what he was given in the situation." - http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/feats-and-how-to-use-them/626504/#19 posted by Final Arrow

Also the Original Post: "Batman was offered a Yellow Power ring at one point, and turned it down, if he had kept it,"

Now we have to have a war of semantics. The Original Post suggests that Batman kept the Yellow Ring when offered it. It does not however suggest that he (Batman) got then ring and rushed off to fight Superman.

It suggests that he got some experience with the ring first.

Perhaps Man_of_Miracles can shed some further light on the subject.

However if Batman is experienced, there are plenty of powers the Yellow Ring grants, that would allow him to bring down Superman. One of those the ability to augment himself to metahuman levels, already increasing his strength, durability, and speed.

#23 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: I dont think a lantern could take Superman without constructs. While his strength, durability and speed are increased, Clark still beats him in every category. Maybe his H2H skills could give him an edge, but i cant see him winning with just that.

#24 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

Some people just strive to be wrong on this site ...... Superman pimp slaps the ring off batman's finger.

#25 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGraySon said:

@Moon_Bat_87: I dont think a lantern could take Superman without constructs. While his strength, durability and speed are increased, Clark still beats him in every category. Maybe his H2H skills could give him an edge, but i cant see him winning with just that.

Well, your right I agree, and I hope that I did not come across as suggesting that Batman would not take on Superman without Constructs.

And I also agree that Superman beats him in every category, save Hand to hand skill. This along with Constructs and other ring abilities gives Batman the ability to stand against Superman.

And I would personally argue, defeat him.

#26 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: I see what you mean, and hell i think if Bruce were as experienced as Hal hed give Clark a hell of a fight. The only reason i cant seem to give a lantern even if its an experienced Bruce a win is because they just dont have the combat speed or durability to keep up with Clark.

#27 Posted by Saren (25065 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman stomps.

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#28 Posted by Saren (25065 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

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#29 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGraySon said:

@Moon_Bat_87: I see what you mean, and hell i think if Bruce were as experienced as Hal hed give Clark a hell of a fight. The only reason i cant seem to give a lantern even if its an experienced Bruce a win is because they just dont have the combat speed or durability to keep up with Clark.

And I see what you mean as well.

Cheers!

#30 Posted by Man0fSteel (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#31 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

And normally that is exactly what I would say.

Batman loses to Superman in nearly every circumstance.

Batman with the Kryptonite Ring stands a chance.

Batman with Green/Yellow Lantern ring stands a greater chance.

#32 Posted by BlueComet (1042 posts) - - Show Bio

He'd have a way better chance using a Green Lantern ring than a Yellow power ring.

#33 Posted by Malonius (894 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@CitizenBane said:

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

And normally that is exactly what I would say.

Batman loses to Superman in nearly every circumstance.

Batman with the Kryptonite Ring stands a chance.

Batman with Green/Yellow Lantern ring stands a greater chance.

I think the Kryptonite Ring is pretty useless against Superman. He could flick a booger at Batman from a mile away and kill him without ever getting within range of the Kryptonite radiation.

If Batman has mastered the Yellow Lantern ring then he ought to stand a chance at KO'ing Supes. Superman should be able to beat, but not outright stomp any single experienced Lantern. Lanterns are supposed to be pretty dang powerful.

#34 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malonius said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@CitizenBane said:

I don't even understand why Batfans want to insist that Batman can beat Superman in the first place, all evidence to the contrary. Say he can't beat Superman. So what? Does that make him less of a character because he's a street leveler who can't beat one of the most powerful people in his universe?

And normally that is exactly what I would say.

Batman loses to Superman in nearly every circumstance.

Batman with the Kryptonite Ring stands a chance.

Batman with Green/Yellow Lantern ring stands a greater chance.

I think the Kryptonite Ring is pretty useless against Superman. He could flick a booger at Batman from a mile away and kill him without ever getting within range of the Kryptonite radiation.

If Batman has mastered the Yellow Lantern ring then he ought to stand a chance at KO'ing Supes. Superman should be able to beat, but not outright stomp any single experienced Lantern. Lanterns are supposed to be pretty dang powerful.

If it was useless against him, why did Superman give it to (allow) Batman to have it to be used should Superman ever go "dark side".

And I generally agree with your last part.

#35 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

If it was useless against him, why did Superman give it to (allow) Batman to have it to be used should Superman ever go "dark side".

Cuz that's something called "PLOT"

if Batman came at Superman with a K ring, Superman could whistle a tunein his direction, freezing Batman in place instantly .... pretty simple .... Sinestro trashed Batman when he had the green ring on .... so that's out too

#36 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet: It has been argued he couldn't use a Green Power Ring because he has never gotten over his parents deaths.

Also a Yellow Power Ring is based on the users ability to instill fear, who instills more fear than Batman?

#37 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@BlueComet: It has been argued he couldn't use a Green Power Ring because he has never gotten over his parents deaths.

Also a Yellow Power Ring is based on the users ability to instill fear, who instills more fear than Batman?

Scarecrow, Darkseid, the Spectre ... just to name a few

#38 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days:

It was a purposeful overstatement.

But really he can instill a lot of fear.

#39 Posted by BlueComet (1042 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles: Sinestro for one. And Batman would be so much more powerful with a Green ring IMO. He has more will power than even Spectre does and is possibly the second strongest will next to Hal.

#40 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Fair enough. But one of his main things is fear.

#41 Posted by BlueComet (1042 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles: True.

#42 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Lol Waldo is probably like oh ****

#43 Posted by Malonius (894 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

If it was useless against him, why did Superman give it to (allow) Batman to have it to be used should Superman ever go "dark side".

Cuz that's something called "PLOT"

if Batman came at Superman with a K ring, Superman could whistle a tunein his direction, freezing Batman in place instantly .... pretty simple .... Sinestro trashed Batman when he had the green ring on .... so that's out too

Yep.

#44 Posted by Alexander505 (2177 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman win.

#45 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#46 Posted by raecinio (92 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman can defeat Superman without a power ring. A power ring + Batman = Batman wins 9/10

#47 Posted by HulkSlayerT1000 (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

Superman takes his head off after 0.2 seconds.

#48 Posted by dondave (38889 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman ftw