Batman with Prep vs - Battles

#1 Edited by Jbhdbc (145 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

1- Rhino (1week). 2- Thing (1.5weeks). 3- Namor (2weeks). 4 -Hercule (5weeks) 5- Hulk (2months) 6- Juggernaut (3months) 7- Thor (4months) 8- Thanos (6months) Batman has access to their wiki pages. normal hulk not the WW hulk. they don't know anything about batman. win by death or ko. takes place in the street. i think he cant win against juggernaut. provide reason. no outside help for batman of anyone else.

#2 Edited by Qpzmg (976 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at 8 because I think Thanos is immortal.

#3 Posted by Dredeuced (3189 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

Hercules has been jobbed enough times that I think bats with appropriate prep time could come up with something, same with Juggernaut. I think he'd stop at Thor who could just speed blitz him before he pulls anything. Definitely stops at Thanos unless he could make an infinity gauntlet or some other cosmic item in 7 months and just curb stomp him with omnipotence.

#4 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1344 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

This is ridiculous! it definitely stops at 5 (and I doubt he could he beat Herc too)...

2 months for Hulk?! you think Batman can takes down hulk with 2 months prep? while everyone on Marvel Earth couldn't do it with years of prep? (Reed, Stark, Doom, T'Challa, Pym couldn't do it, and all of them are just as smart as Batman, if their combined effort couldn't do it, Batman can't too)

#5 Posted by Mediumguy (166 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan: For Hulk Loads and LOADS of tranquilizers.

#6 Posted by Cole_Mercer (214 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

They all stomp!!!! Batman always wins?

#7 Posted by Batman242 (2055 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

I'm sorry, but Batman isn't above outside help and if that's what's necessary to take someone down, he'll do it. I guess he'll use outside help starting from Juggernaut or Thor.

#8 Posted by Dredeuced (3189 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan: Iron Man had Hulk beat with prep, he just refused to use it at first then got obedience disk'd. Then World Breaker Hulk (much more dangerous than normal Hulk) got satellite beamed into calmness. Normal Hulk's been subdued and turned into Banner and knocked out so many times by so many people less intelligent than Batman that I have a hard time imagining Batman NOT winning with that much prep time.

#9 Posted by HulkSlayerT1000 (1066 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Batmna beats all.

#10 Posted by jackofspades (1841 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

This is ridiculous! it definitely stops at 5 (and I doubt he could he beat Herc too)...
2 months for Hulk?! you think Batman can takes down hulk with 2 months prep? while everyone on Marvel Earth couldn't do it with years of prep? (Reed, Stark, Doom, T'Challa, Pym couldn't do it, and all of them are just as smart as Batman, if their combined effort couldn't do it, Batman can't too)

this

#11 Posted by jackofspades (1841 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@GodDamnIronMan: Iron Man had Hulk beat with prep, he just refused to use it at first then got obedience disk'd. Then World Breaker Hulk (much more dangerous than normal Hulk) got satellite beamed into calmness. Normal Hulk's been subdued and turned into Banner and knocked out so many times by so many people less intelligent than Batman that I have a hard time imagining Batman NOT winning with that much prep time.

thats all for plot reasons

#12 Edited by Dredeuced (3189 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Giving Batman prep time is basically just saying "Give Batman X amount of time to induce plot related reasons why he wins." Until you come up with a guy who's hard to beat with previously shown, plot related technology (You know, like Thanos, unlike Hulk) then whatevs. I'm not saying Batman even runs the gauntlet, I just don't think Hulk would ever get a chance to do anything because it would be entirely predicated on Batman figuring out a way to unhulk him (which has been done literally hundreds of times) and then restraining Banner. None of this shit really flies against Thor, much less Thanos.

#13 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (1570 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

@GodDamnIronMan said:
This is ridiculous! it definitely stops at 5 (and I doubt he could he beat Herc too)...
2 months for Hulk?! you think Batman can takes down hulk with 2 months prep? while everyone on Marvel Earth couldn't do it with years of prep? (Reed, Stark, Doom, T'Challa, Pym couldn't do it, and all of them are just as smart as Batman, if their combined effort couldn't do it, Batman can't too)
this

Thumbs up, bub.

#14 Posted by GhostRider2 (1750 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at 4-5 but if somehow manage to kill/ko them he gets killed at round 6

#15 Posted by utkanflash (165 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Rhino, Thing, Namor, Juggernaut Bats swep these guys easily... (with his preps)

Hulk, Hercules possible

Thanos and Thor ı dont think so... but is he use help from his friends (MM or Supe may be) he have chance ...

#16 Posted by CitizenBane (20286 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Not arguing that Batman can or cannot beat Hulk with prep, but it's more than a little silly to bring up the failure of various prep masters in World War Hulk as proof that great prepping ability isn't enough to beat Hulk, when that was easily the most moronic part of that series (which is saying something, honestly). Reed Richards with prep is so far out of Hulk's league, it's not even funny. Even the time constraint of having to come up with something in the time between Hulk's announcement from Attilan and his arrival on Earth seriously shouldn't have bothered him at all. Reed once came up with a gun that could blow holes through Celestials like a hot knife slices through butter in about five minutes, tops. And yet when Hulk came to town, the best Reed could do was toss some pretty lights in his direction and hope for the best? Get real, Pak.

#17 Edited by TheAcidSkull (7600 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

stops at 4.

and no one should bring WWHulk up, considering that the OP does not specify on which version this is, not that batman could beat the hulk, well at least i don't think so. also reed with prep has faced some people who are arguably very very powerful, reed should have done something better, that was a major plot whole, but hey, but the rest seemed valid to me, most of them anyways.

anyways i don't think batman could get pass hercules.

#18 Posted by theTimeStreamer (1525 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@utkanflash: are you serious?! juggernaut?!?!?! he doesnt need to eat, breath, drink!! he has come back from a skeleton. he does not have a weakenes to exploit. he cannot be koed. the only one that did that was captain universe. and idk if juggs was at normal strength then with his tenuous relationship with cyttorak.

#19 Posted by theTimeStreamer (1525 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Batman242: getting help defeats the purpose of the 'who'd win' situation.

#20 Posted by Jbhdbc (145 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

no outside help and not the ww hulk.

#21 Posted by Kyzuko (107 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Stops against Hercules.

#22 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2882 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

He could stop at Rhino. Batmans had prep for Penguin an Killer Croc an has lost to them. Prep isn't a guaranteed win for Bats. He's lucky if he get to Hercules, if he does he stops there.

#23 Posted by CitizenBane (20286 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Batmans had prep for Penguin an Killer Croc an has lost to them.

.....when?

#24 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Batmans had prep for Penguin an Killer Croc an has lost to them.
.....when?

Probably never .......

#25 Posted by utkanflash (165 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer: yeah ım serious..he find a way for his momentum cuts

#26 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at 7, 6 would be difficult too

#27 Posted by comicace3 (1589 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@utkanflash said:

Rhino, Thing, Namor, Juggernaut Bats swep these guys easily... (with his preps)
Hulk, Hercules possible
Thanos and Thor ı dont think so... but is he use help from his friends (MM or Supe may be) he have chance ...

THIS

#28 Posted by theTimeStreamer (1525 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@utkanflash: @comicace3:

#29 Posted by ArticulateT (183 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

I agree with most who say that the current comics Batman would stop at maybe Thor and definitely Thanos.

Campy Adam West batman clears, with the help of his Anti-Thanos spray.

#30 Posted by comicace3 (1589 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer:

#31 Posted by theTimeStreamer (1525 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@comicace3: 2nd one it is then.

#32 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at Thanos.

He could use the jla time travel device to beat Thor.

#33 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

He could stop at Rhino. Batmans had prep for Penguin an Killer Croc an has lost to them. Prep isn't a guaranteed win for Bats. He's lucky if he get to Hercules, if he does he stops there.

never happend.

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#34 Posted by utkanflash (165 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer: hey u dont judge me or u cant judge people just because their thinkin differently..Be respect...It's not fool or stupid anyone...

#35 Posted by Sideslash (5854 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

This is ridiculous! it definitely stops at 5 (and I doubt he could he beat Herc too)...
2 months for Hulk?! you think Batman can takes down hulk with 2 months prep? while everyone on Marvel Earth couldn't do it with years of prep? (Reed, Stark, Doom, T'Challa, Pym couldn't do it, and all of them are just as smart as Batman, if their combined effort couldn't do it, Batman can't too)

^This guy knows how it is.^

#36 Posted by deaditegonzo (991 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer said:

@utkanflash: are you serious?! juggernaut?!?!?! he doesnt need to eat, breath, drink!! he has come back from a skeleton. he does not have a weakenes to exploit. he cannot be koed. the only one that did that was captain universe. and idk if juggs was at normal strength then with his tenuous relationship with cyttorak.

You said what I was thinking. When full powered, he has no weakness, even Marvels powerhouses cant do much to him when full powered. I guess the fact he is vulnerable to telepathy is something of a weakness, although Batman being able to exploit it is questionable.

I also find the fact that extra time is considered an automatic boost for Batman. Its almost like transformations in the DBZ universe. I basically ignored that aspect, and said if he couldnt beat em in a week, then he likely couldnt beat them (unless it was his plan all along to just keep himself on life support until they all die of old age, but that would fail against 4 onwards :P).

Lastly, I think he has a better chance against Hulk than Hercules, but maybe im the only one. Dont get me wrong, generally Hulk > Herc, but thats because Hulk purely overpowers him, no amount of prep will allow Batman to do that, and Herc has no exploitable weaknesses as an immortal god. Batman could theoretically siphon Hulks powers, make some kind of telepathic mind buster, trainquilize Hulk, etc, but Hercs powers are divine providence, not based on radiation exposure or his emotional state.

#37 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2882 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Batman with prep is overated.

#38 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2882 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Citizenbane I was being facetious. Just stating that prep isn't a slam dunk for Bats. He does have characters like Penguin, Killer Croc an Two Face, in his Rogues gallery. He doesn't face gods on a daily basis. I love Bats, just feel like Bats w/prep is an excuse on this site for an automatic win for him.

#39 Posted by CitizenBane (20286 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

@Citizenbane I was being facetious. Just stating that prep isn't a slam dunk for Bats. He does have characters like Penguin, Killer Croc an Two Face, in his Rogues gallery. He doesn't face gods on a daily basis. I love Bats, just feel like Bats w/prep is an excuse on this site for an automatic win for him.

That's not being facetious. That's creating a ridiculous argument that you can't possibly back to support the position that Batman w/prep is overrated. So what if Batman has people like Penguin and Killer Croc in his rogues' gallery? He doesn't even need prep to beat people like Penguin and Two-Face, and the only prep he'd ever need against Croc is sonics and explosives, both of which he carries around everywhere. Black Panther's main villains are people like Killmonger, Man-Ape and the White Wolf. Does that change the fact that he can prep for people like Mephisto and the Silver Surfer when he needs to? It's a relatively simple matter of proportionate response; Batman's prep varies depending on the calibre of opponent he has to face. Would you use a sledgehammer to pound in a two-inch nail?

#40 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2882 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Citizenbane Black Panther taking on Mephisto or SS is pure PIS. These characters are out of his league. Just because he has prep doesn't mean he will win. If he even gets hit once by Namor, Rhino, Hercules or Hulk he's going to die. Does he have a chance? Sure this is comics after all, an Bats is arguably the most popular character in the medium. That is why he has a shot. If you threw all that out the window an looked at this from a logical unbiased view on paper there is no way he survives this gauntlet. The only prep that could get him through this would be help from other characters. Then that truly doesn't count as a win for him.

#41 Posted by CitizenBane (20286 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

@Citizenbane Black Panther taking on Mephisto or SS is pure PIS. These characters are out of his league. Just because he has prep doesn't mean he will win. If he even gets hit once by Namor, Rhino, Hercules or Hulk he's going to die. Does he have a chance? Sure this is comics after all, an Bats is arguably the most popular character in the medium. That is why he has a shot. If you threw all that out the window an looked at this from a logical unbiased view on paper there is no way he survives this gauntlet. The only prep that could get him through this would be help from other characters. Then that truly doesn't count as a win for him.

Black Panther taking on Mephisto or the Surfer with prep-acquired plot devices that are meant to tilt the balance of the encounter is PIS? Really? Those characters are out of his league? Maybe that's exactly why he needs prep to go up against them in the first place? Obviously if T'Challa gets hit once by Namor he's going to die. But with prep, he can use a suit of armor like the one his sister used to fight Namor. That's the whole point of prep for characters like this. It lets them fight people they wouldn't ordinarily stand a chance against. Is Doom in the league of the Beyonder or Galactus, or even the Silver Surfer? Hardly, and he still stole their powers with prep. Is Reed Richards in the league of a Celestial? Hardly, but that didn't stop him from building a gun that could kill Celestials in one hit, did it? Your train of thought makes no sense to me. What exactly do you think prep is?

#42 Posted by renobjc (105 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

I think I would argue that Batman could go all the way to Thanos. I think like a 5% chance he could even win against Thanos.

#43 Posted by comicace3 (1589 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@utkanflash: Thaaaaaank you! I said almost the same to him.

#44 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2882 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@Citizenbane Dr Doom is on another level when it comes to prep an so is Reed. You can't possibly think Bruce is on either of their levels when it comes to prep. Black Panther taking SS was PIS, I have the issue an I shake my head everytime I flip through it. You can believe what you want an we'll just agree to disagree.

#45 Posted by theTimeStreamer (1525 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@utkanflash: not thinking differently. but wrongly. juggernaut has no exploitable weakness.

#46 Posted by mk111 (3031 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer said:

@utkanflash: not thinking differently. but wrongly. juggernaut has no exploitable weakness.

What about telepathy? Not that Batman has that, but still...

#47 Posted by theTimeStreamer (1525 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@mk111: you would need a major telepath for that plan. like MM. but first you'd have to get the helmet off. and bats has no outside help.

#48 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1344 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

It's fun to see how Batman takes out supervillains with prep. His skills and his determination is admirable... but it will be too damn ridiculous for him to hunt down Immortal Gods and Cosmic entities.

Batman with Prep is too overrated, don't make this character less interesting.