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#51 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (11987 posts) - - Show Bio
#52 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3808 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes or WW could solo,,I've seen 2 people say supes would lose but WW will win?,,I wonder what they're smoking?

Superman has exploitable weaknesses while Wonder Woman doesn't. Batman would go for the obvious and attempt to get rid of him first. Assuming he could even succeed in that he'd then proceed to lose to Wonder Woman.

#53 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

Some of the responses by the Batman fans are laughable...Where are Green Lantern Batman's feats???

Anyway, New 52 Superman was literally destroying Hal and his constructs. WW was doing the same for the most part when she and Hal fought. Superman or WW solo, together this fight is overkill.

#54 Posted by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

Some of the responses by the Batman fans are laughable...Where are Green Lantern Batman's feats???

Anyway, New 52 Superman was literally destroying Hal and his constructs. WW was doing the same for the most part when she and Hal fought. Superman or WW solo, together this fight is overkill.

Its not Hal Jordan supes is gonna fight. He's gonna fight someone who is way more intelligent and creative than Hal. Bruce posses almost as much will power as Hal if not more. A human doesn't achieve Bruce has without having a will stronger than admandium.

#55 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@shizzmahh said:

Some of the responses by the Batman fans are laughable...Where are Green Lantern Batman's feats???

Anyway, New 52 Superman was literally destroying Hal and his constructs. WW was doing the same for the most part when she and Hal fought. Superman or WW solo, together this fight is overkill.

Its not Hal Jordan supes is gonna fight. He's gonna fight someone who is way more intelligent and creative than Hal. Bruce posses almost as much will power as Hal if not more. A human doesn't achieve Bruce has without having a will stronger than admandium.

Batman couldn't even really use the ring when he got it.

He's a guilt ridden crybaby.

#56 Edited by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@stronger said:

@inconvenient_truth said:

@stronger: he does have prep. OP says he has 1 week practice with the ring

Well Batman wins.....

Based on what...Feats? Well come on then, where are they? Cus I got feats for Superman and Wonder Woman, where's GL Batman's feats...he wins right?

Honestly,I have no feats implying that Batman would win.I just have the belief that rather than face Superman and Wonder Woman,he 'll go for their weaknesses.He could generate so much kryptonite radiation that Superman would die out of poisoning.Then he could just use the green energy to himself,to boost his strentgh,speed and durability, and just fight Wonder Woman h2h and beat her.

The only thing I have is an instance when Batman took Superman's powers and beat Wonder Woman,Hal Jordan,John Stewart,Supergirl,Red Tornado,Hawkgirl and Firestorm on the moon.It's Superman/Batman #56.Well that has little to do with GL powers but I brought it as a relief.

Anyway,I have little proof supporting my arguements and my case so I 'd have to go with you.

#57 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11987 posts) - - Show Bio

@stronger: Alrighty then....thank you for explaining that in detail.

#58 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@shizzmahh said:

Some of the responses by the Batman fans are laughable...Where are Green Lantern Batman's feats???

Anyway, New 52 Superman was literally destroying Hal and his constructs. WW was doing the same for the most part when she and Hal fought. Superman or WW solo, together this fight is overkill.

Its not Hal Jordan supes is gonna fight. He's gonna fight someone who is way more intelligent and creative than Hal. Bruce posses almost as much will power as Hal if not more. A human doesn't achieve Bruce has without having a will stronger than admandium.

What I stated is relevant because they're actual feats from an encounter with an actual Green Lantern. You're assuming Bruce has as much, if not more will power than Hal, but aren't providing any evidence to back that claim. Even if his will power was on Hal's level, Hal's constructs were getting broken by Superman and WW. This is an important point because how will Batman defend himself if his constructs are getting shattered? The only scan I've seen of this version of Batman using the ring is him screaming in pain and recreating constructs of his parents. I don't see how that will help anyone build a case for him. Lastly, Superman and WW are too fast. Either of them can attack him before he can react. A relentless speed blitz (like the one seen in New 52 JL #2) from either (or both) will end Batman. Also, have any current lanterns created kryptonite? If not, Batman is screwed.

#59 Posted by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@shizzmahh said:

Some of the responses by the Batman fans are laughable...Where are Green Lantern Batman's feats???

Anyway, New 52 Superman was literally destroying Hal and his constructs. WW was doing the same for the most part when she and Hal fought. Superman or WW solo, together this fight is overkill.

Its not Hal Jordan supes is gonna fight. He's gonna fight someone who is way more intelligent and creative than Hal. Bruce posses almost as much will power as Hal if not more. A human doesn't achieve Bruce has without having a will stronger than admandium.

What I stated is relevant because they're actual feats from an encounter with an actual Green Lantern. You're assuming Bruce has as much, if not more will power than Hal, but aren't providing any evidence to back that claim. Even if his will power was on Hal's level, Hal's constructs were getting broken by Superman and WW. This is an important point because how will Batman defend himself if his constructs are getting shattered? The only scan I've seen of this version of Batman using the ring is him screaming in pain and recreating constructs of his parents. I don't see how that will help anyone build a case for him. Lastly, Superman and WW are too fast. Either of them can attack him before he can react. A relentless speed blitz (like the one seen in New 52 JL #2) from either (or both) will end Batman. Also, have any current lanterns created kryptonite? If not, Batman is screwed.

No. GLs can subconsciously bring up a shield to defend themselves against these type of opponents. I have no idea about the other part. I don't like new 52 that much, so I haven't been keeping up lately. This is a scan I found on this website.

If they can imitate Green kryptonite radiation, what's stopping Bruce to create gold kryptonite radiation?

#60 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio
@rbt said:

No. GLs can subconsciously bring up a shield to defend themselves against these type of opponents. I have no idea about the other part. I don't like new 52 that much, so I haven't been keeping up lately. This is a scan I found on this website.

If they can imitate Green kryptonite radiation, what's stopping Bruce to create gold kryptonite radiation?

First, that's not current. Second, Superman and WW are capable of breaking GL shields/constructs. Notice WW slicing Hal in the second scan.

A relentless Supes and WW stomp, alone or together. I'm still waiting on the Batman feats.

#61 Posted by BlackWind (6011 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Lanterns no longer have the ability to create kryptonite, IIRC.

#62 Edited by TerryBogard2014 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman gets bodied

#63 Edited by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyways why are we discussing BFRs. BFR is not allowed. Win by death.

#64 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Lanterns no longer have the ability to create kryptonite, IIRC.

I think Kyle is the only one to do it Post-Crisis. I can't remember where though. I think Martian Manhunter was feeding him intel on it or something?

Maybe I'm just making things up.

I don't know.

#65 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

Anyways why are we discussing BFRs. BFR is not allowed. Win by death.

Who's discussing BFR?

#66 Posted by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

So, throwing Bats into sun is not BFR? What exactly IS BFR?

#67 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3808 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

So, throwing Bats into sun is not BFR? What exactly IS BFR?

BFR is anything that removes an occupant from the battlefield whether it be through transportation i.e. a boom tube or simply picking them up and throwing them to the next continent. So yes throwing him into the sun is considered BFR.

#68 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

So, throwing Bats into sun is not BFR? What exactly IS BFR?

That is considered BFR. But i haven't said anything about throwing Batman into the sun. I just don't know where that idea came from.

#69 Edited by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

@shizzmahh Then how will Superman and WW speedblitz him? GLs can fly as well. Bruce will simply get out of the way when Superman or WW charge him.

#70 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: It's not that simple, Hal wouldn't have gotten blitzed if it were. Show me scans of current lanterns performing speed feats on the same level as Superman, then you'll have an argument. The second scan shows Superman saving a bunch of mind controlled people from continuously jumping from a building. Where are Green Lantern Batman's feats?

#71 Posted by THORSON (2349 posts) - - Show Bio

supers and ww.

supes is too fast

ww is too strong

batman is too boring.

#72 Edited by OverLordArhas (7670 posts) - - Show Bio

Remember guys BATS knows entire JL weakness. Meaning BATS already have an extensive study with regard to the GL ring.

#73 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

This is ridiculous. Superman with a GL ring oneshotted Solaris. People are underestimating the rings.

#74 Edited by Bronze_Surfer (2976 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_last_son_of_czarnia: Yeah a superman who is supposedly 2nd in the dc multiverse. and he also had other powers but he only used the ring. Also Solaris was weakened.

#75 Edited by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

But there's the thing though - superman prime lacks feats, but we can extrapolate that he's far more powerful than regular superman. Also, he's probably not as creative with a ring as batman was.

#76 Posted by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana's tiara made Supes bleed and she held back the attack. It takes a lot less to bleed Diana. All Bruce has to do is create a sword sharp enough to chop their heads.

No GL has ever done this because writers don't WANT GL to win against Supes. Otherwise they wouldn't have taken away their power to create kryptonite. Logical thing to say is that Bruce can create a sword sharp and strong enough. I agree with OverLordArhas. Batman already would've a lot of info on ring before he gets it.

#77 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone who doubts the most powerful weapon in the DCU, read Last Will and Testament.

#78 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2976 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Superman can take the ring off of bats. They have greater speed. The tiara can be argued since it is a magical weapon. They have both broken constructs and could move faster than batman can think. Wonder Woman is a beter fighter. Info does not = experience.

#79 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

The ring cannot be stolen. It can be pledged or given. Lobo tried to steal Jack T. chance's ring but he couldn't rip it off.

#80 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

To the non-believers: Hal with the yellow weakness beat Mongul SENIOR armed with just Steel's hammer. Respect.

#81 Edited by Bronze_Surfer (2976 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_last_son_of_czarnia: Identety Crisis. Deathstroke did it to Kyle. Injustice. Yes it's non canon but he did steal the ring. Or he could just rip off bats finger. And superman does have enough will to probably become a new lantern.

#82 Posted by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bronze_Surfer It took a Guardian's power to take ring of a GL's hand and he blew up his hand in the process. Supes in not gonna do that. Ring operates quicker that though. It can do basics like shield and much before the weilder can think. So supes in not gonna take it off or rip Bruce's finger. It'll protect itself.

#83 Posted by Immortal777 (7267 posts) - - Show Bio

The idea that somehow Batman with a Lantern ring will beat Superman when Hal the supposed best of the Lanterns couldn't do it and it was at a point when Superman's powers where still developing is ridiculous. Batman also has no feats with a Lantern ring so there's no debate there he cant use it.. Either Superman or Wonder Woman have Batman eating out of a tube with just a flick of their wrists.

#84 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

In Identity Crisis, Slade's theory was never proven. Also, lantern decided to melee him and Deathstroke gutted the Flash? Injustice is non canon. Aquaman beat the flash and captain marvel back to back.

#85 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2976 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Yeah thats takeing the ring of the hand not taking the hand off the arm. They have broken constucts they can break the sheild. not to mention supes can heat vision it off or freze his arm and smash it off. And no offense to the gaurdians but there not the physical strongest in dc.

#86 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

Good luck forcibly removing the hand. Guy Gardner, pre-Vuldarian powers, stalemated pre-neutered Lobo in armwrestling due to his ring alone.

#87 Edited by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_last_son_of_czarnia said:

But there's the thing though - superman prime lacks feats, but we can extrapolate that he's far more powerful than regular superman. Also, he's probably not as creative with a ring as batman was.

Superman Prime 1 Million was busy traveling around the universe gaining knowledge and powers, then he went and sat in the sun for 1,000's of years (or whatever amount of time it was) and we're supposed to assume he's less creative than Batman with a ring??? really?

This version of Superman also loses lots of battles against high level characters for the exact reason you mentioned, he lacks feats. Sounds very similar to a character being used in this battle...

@rbt said:

Diana's tiara made Supes bleed and she held back the attack. It takes a lot less to bleed Diana. All Bruce has to do is create a sword sharp enough to chop their heads.

No GL has ever done this because writers don't WANT GL to win against Supes. Otherwise they wouldn't have taken away their power to create kryptonite. Logical thing to say is that Bruce can create a sword sharp and strong enough. I agree with OverLordArhas. Batman already would've a lot of info on ring before he gets it.

Diana's tiara is magical.

Be objective. You want Batman to win so you're ignoring feats and facts. Having info on the ring, and actually being able to use it are two different things. Fact is, Batman won't be able to react or create constructs strong enough to stop Superman or WW from ending his life. The scenario states that everyone is willing to kill, this means they're not in character. This won't be a case where Supes or WW speed blitz, then stand there and talk. This will be a continuous, nonstop speed blitz until Batman gets bodied.

#88 Edited by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

His construct was a giant hand. Creative.

#89 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (520 posts) - - Show Bio

His construct was a giant hand. Creative.

Haha. Batman yells in pain, creates constructs of his parents, and starts crying. Very impressive.