#1 Edited by 8bitGangsta (392 posts) - - Show Bio

This is Eddie Brock Venom. Batman gets one day prep and fight is in Gotham City. Morals off. Fight to death. Venom can call in help of Carnage if needed, and Batman can call in Nightwing if needed. Pre-52 For both. Batman, and Batman only, gets full knowledge of Venom, and Venom only.

#2 Edited by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

Eddie would be standing over Bruce's and Dick's horribly mangled corpses.

Carnage is not needed you could probably add jason,tim and damian and he still wouldnt need help.

#3 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19908 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman could get fire and sonic weapons in one day and defeat Venom. Bringing in Nightwing with those weapons would only seal in the victory. Carnage is a same result.

#4 Posted by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Batman could get fire and sonic weapons in one day and defeat Venom. Bringing in Nightwing with those weapons would only seal in the victory. Carnage is a same result.

He isnt going to figure out Venom's weaknesses in one day and even if he did having weapons that hurt venom doesnt give you an automatic win.

Brock is vastly superior in every physical aspect and could kill them in a single blow.

#5 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

This depends on the sonic weapon but even if Batman did know Venoms weakness it would be close.

If Bruce doesn't know Carnage has the same weakness then Carnage could kill Batman quickly while he is fighting Venom.

#6 Edited by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

Full info now and 1 day of prep, this just became a batgod fanboy nightmare lol (no hate for bats just his overboard fans)

Brock was able to destroy a sonic weapon and nearly drowned johnny storm when parker went after him, so he still has good odds.

#7 Posted by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom fanboy han well sorry but bats wins sonic weapons make venom go bye bye

#8 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17244 posts) - - Show Bio

with prep batman wins easily , if it was a random encounter then he'd loose, but it's not soo.....

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#9 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17244 posts) - - Show Bio

@8bitGangsta said:

This is Eddie Brock Venom. Batman gets one day prep and fight is in Gotham City. Morals off. Fight to death. Venom can call in help of Carnage if needed, and Batman can call in Nightwing if needed. Pre-52 For both. Batman, and Batman only, gets full knowledge of Venom, and Venom only.

dude , you should change the op, with prep it's an easy win, all B-man has to do is get sonic and fire weapons , it would be much more fair if it was an random encounter

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#10 Edited by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

Venom fanboy han well sorry but bats wins sonic weapons make venom go bye bye

Ya he clearly went bye bye here. (well he did but he tanked the first sonic blast)

and IMO reed's tech>Bruce's tech

#11 Posted by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

dude you do realize we are talking about the 2000's versions not 1960's

#12 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom gonna stomp.

#13 Edited by LordVulcan (209 posts) - - Show Bio

bats with prep and info on venom? venom get his teeth kicked in. carnage would be of no help being as they share the same weakness. if bats didnt have info on venom and only prep bats still wins but not by much. no prep? venom eats him alive.

maybe if venom could call on anti venom. or oh god cosmic carnage. but that would make it curb stomp just not for bats...

#14 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2780 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with lord Vulcan on this one, batman is the prep king, with knowledge of venom he wins but with out prep venom obliterates bats

#15 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull: Venom could solo the entire Bat family in a random encounter this is much more fair.

#16 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

With an hour prep Batman will gather the basic anti-venom weapons.

Flame throwers and some explosives.

Sonic weapons.

That won't be enough.

But what people don't realize is how horribly inferior Batman is to these villans, if he gets touched he's dead meat.

I can understand Batman winning a 4/10 with the prep, but with Carnage Batman is dead meat.

Batman gets his head bitten off by Carnage.

#17 Posted by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: your serious

#18 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

dude you do realize we are talking about the 2000's versions not 1960's

Venom was created in 1988

#19 Posted by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Duke_Nasty: my bad same thing applies no 1988's version

#20 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger: Yes I'm serious, but I'm also quite biased so feel free to try to debunk what I said.

#21 Edited by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: I say bats gets prep uses sonic weaponry then shoot venom same thing for carnage plus with help from nightwing makes it easier.Batman with prep will know what to do to venom

#22 Posted by Shawnbaby (10403 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom wins. Even with sonic weapons Venom and Carnage are too much to handle.

#23 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger: He posted a scan of Eddie tanking a sonic blast from a cannon built by Reed Richards. Personally I don't believe Batman can build something better in a day. Especially if you add Carnage into the mix, All either of them need is one shot and he and Nightwing are done.

#24 Edited by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Duke_Nasty: whatever

#25 Posted by Shawnbaby (10403 posts) - - Show Bio
@darktiger said:

@Duke_Nasty: whatever

Having sonic weapons doesn't give you an automatic win over venom any more than having some kryptonite gives you an auto win against Superman.
#26 Edited by LordVulcan (209 posts) - - Show Bio

venom got beat by a lighter at one point. his weakness to fire goes up and down a lot. sooo ya that happened... and pretty sure same thing has happened with sonics.

#27 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordVulcan said:

venom got beat by a lighter at one point. his weakness to fire goes up and down a lot. sooo ya that happened... and pretty sure same thing has happened with sonics.

-_- sure

Hell there's another instance were venom killed over 20 guards armed with sonic weapons.One Day of prep isn't going to cut it.

#28 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordVulcan said:

venom got beat by a lighter at one point. his weakness to fire goes up and down a lot. sooo ya that happened... and pretty sure same thing has happened with sonics.

I don't know where thats from but it looks like really good art, I'm sure the writer is of the same high quality.

#29 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

Having full knowledge of Venom gives the tactical advantage to Bruce. The thread says full knowledge, that means, Bruce knows exactly how, why, what etc. With prep time Batman managed to deal with Superman, you think Bruce won't be able to deal with Venom? Really? Now, if we add Carnage, I think Batman has a problem, cause it's too much for him to handle, even if Nightwing is with him. But, who knows? He's the goddamn Batman!

#30 Posted by jwalser3 (4796 posts) - - Show Bio

@Phaedrusgr:When did Superman lose too Batman?

Doesn't Batman already carry sonic Batarangs, he could then built a mini flame thrower and figure a strategy. Batman wins.

#31 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3: First of all, I never said Superman lost to Batman. I said "Batman managed to deal with Superman", having in my mind Batman stalling Superman in "Hush". But, if you want a Superman defeat, you may read Miller's "The Dark Knight returns", where an older Bruce defeats Superman.

#32 Posted by They Killed Cap! (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

...Batman with Prep. At the least Batman will give him a run for his money, if not beat him.

#33 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2585 posts) - - Show Bio

With these rules and stips, Batman would FULLY exploit the symbiotes weakness against fire and high frequency sonics...B-man has the tech and smarts to come up with some insane device to bring venom to his knees....w/o prep and knowledge on the symbiote, Venom would be eating Bruces brains

#34 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#35 Posted by jwalser3 (4796 posts) - - Show Bio

@Phaedrusgr:Alright cool. Thanks :)

Kinda a hostile opening to your reply lol.

#36 Edited by society619 (933 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom wins still, one day of prep isn't going to be enough to come up with a way to beat Venom, his weaknesses to fire and sonic varies so having a weapon wouldn't be a sure thing, like Superman with Kpyto. "Prep Time" isn't a automatic win for Batman

#37 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@society619 said:

Venom wins still, one day of prep isn't going to be enough to come up with a way to beat Venom, his weaknesses to fire and sonic varies so having a weapon wouldn't be a sure thing, like Superman with Kpyto. "Prep Time" isn't a automatic win for Batman

It is in this forum.

#38 Posted by society619 (933 posts) - - Show Bio

@Duke_Nasty said:

@society619 said:

Venom wins still, one day of prep isn't going to be enough to come up with a way to beat Venom, his weaknesses to fire and sonic varies so having a weapon wouldn't be a sure thing, like Superman with Kpyto. "Prep Time" isn't a automatic win for Batman

It is in this forum.

Alot of things don't make sense in this forum, doesn't make it anymore true

#39 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom easy

#40 Posted by Shawnbaby (10403 posts) - - Show Bio
@Phaedrusgr said:

@Death Certificate: I love McFarlane's Spiderman, so, don't get me wrong, but this fight against Spidey&Johny was a little bit "disappointing". Johny going down like this? Really? Drowning??? And why is he still up after that sonic blast from Peter? Sonic blasts split the two personalities and the pain is way too great to handle. But, my dearest McFarlane (I respect him a lot honestly), wanted a good introduction for Carnage, so he wanted to show how strong is Venom in order to show how much stronger is the new symbiote with that lunatic Kasady. That's all for me.

That wasn't Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man. That's Mark Bagley. McFarlane was already off doing Spawn at that point. He had nothing to do with Carnage.  
#41 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom should be able to take this.

#42 Posted by Nefarious (18592 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

#43 Edited by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll take Bruce. No morals and one day of unrestricted prep, what's stopping him from using his Insider Suit, Justice League robots, boom tube, etc.?

#44 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

really? 24 hours prep? batman can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep, and you giving him 24 hours prep?

#45 Posted by Shawnbaby (10403 posts) - - Show Bio
@kcaz said:
really? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?
Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
#46 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3: Really? If it seems hostile, please accept my apologies, cause I assure you that wasn't my intention!

#47 Posted by jobiwankenobi (1459 posts) - - Show Bio

If Batman knows his weakness to sonic and fire, then there really isn't a fight here. He could probably deduce that Carnage has a similar weakness since he is very similar.

If not Venom would destroy Bruce, with Dick it would be close. Carnage by himself would easily beat both of them.

#48 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shawnbaby said:
@kcaz said:
really? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?
Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
actually, i think he can, since he already has contingency plans for each and everyone of the JLA members. so all he has to do is run to his computer, look through the files, and gather the necessary weapons
#49 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19908 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcaz said:

@Shawnbaby said:
@kcaz said:
really? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?
Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
actually, i think he can, since he already has contingency plans for each and everyone of the JLA members. so all he has to do is run to his computer, look through the files, and gather the necessary weapons

It was shown in JLA : DOOM that Batman had files and methods of taking everyone in the JLA down if they went rogue.

#50 Edited by Shawnbaby (10403 posts) - - Show Bio
@kcaz said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@kcaz said:
really? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?
Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
actually, i think he can, since he already has contingency plans for each and everyone of the JLA members. so all he has to do is run to his computer, look through the files, and gather the necessary weapons
The contingency plans are part of the prep though...and he didn't create those in 24 hours. Besides, prep or no prep...if any of the justice league wanted to kill batman...he'd be dead in half a second.